green party ,, your thoughts

Why? I always here that please explain more..... Like I said totally on the fencepost on this one.... The liberals are poisoning my drinking water up here so personally that's out the window right now until that is overturned... I guess its really NDP or green for me... Voting a party that brought in HST, and has the highest unemployment numbers in Canada how people would vote liberal in again.... NDP doesn't scare me on what they do its just there leaders really suck.....

I see it is not easy like I said the choices suck either way...


I'm not going to get too involved in this, but will say this...
BC doesn't have even close to the highest unemployment in Canada...only Alb, Sask, and Man are lower. I live and work on the Island, the company I currently work for has grown from 20 to 60 in the past 5 years and the company I'll be joining in May has grown from 2 to 47 in the past 3.
And if you weren't here or are too young to remember what happened to this province the last time the NDP were in power, do some research...
 
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I do not see oil being needed less anytime soon, like gas for my truck, boat, quads..... Will not vote for a thief or someone with criminal record, cannot believe they are allowed to run. Not even allowed to work in my dept. I stated before what does history prove. BC does not look to bad in my eyes, how were we last time when thiefs rulled?? Naniamo bingo how quick some forget. My thaughts.

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I have a green pin already and although I don't agree with all of their platform but a 4 year term isn't enough time to get to radical unless you want to commit political suicide and never have another chance at leading. With the way the 2 big party's have performed in their last attempts it is time to give them a wake up call. Time to show them they aren't the only two kids on the block.
 
Would love to see both Dix and Clark have to eat crow and concede the election to a big underdog. That would be priceless!!!
 
Love it - get in your gas sucking truck to pull you even greater gas sucking boat and then vote Green. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. If folks here are really serious about going Green, I'd suggest a Prius, a rowboat and solar panels would be good first steps.
 
Love it - get in your gas sucking truck to pull you even greater gas sucking boat and then vote Green. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. If folks here are really serious about going Green, I'd suggest a Prius, a rowboat and solar panels would be good first steps.

What about a sailboat? ;)

I do in fact remember the last NDP government and I will not be voting them back in. There was good reason they were reduced to only two seats back when the Liberals were first voted in.

I don't like everything that the Liberals have done but compared to the alternative they still get my vote. Now is the time to pressure the candidates in your riding to find out where they stand on the issues that are important to you.
 
Love it - get in your gas sucking truck to pull you even greater gas sucking boat and then vote Green. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. If folks here are really serious about going Green, I'd suggest a Prius, a rowboat and solar panels would be good first steps.



radical opinion really,, not realistic....
 
" IN MY OPINION "

I doubt this would happen if the Greens or NDP were in power.........



Standard & Poor's confirms B.C.'s AAA credit rating
By Scott Simpson, Vancouver Sun April 13, 2013 3:09 AM Standard & Poor's on Friday confirmed British Columbia's AAA long-term credit rating as well as its AAA rating for BC Hydro's senior unsecured debt, calling the province's economic outlook "stable."

S&P is the third agency to comment on B.C.'s credit rating since the provincial budget came down in February. Recently, Moody's reaffirmed an AAA rating and Dominion Bond Rating Service reaffirmed B.C. as AA-High.

"The stable outlook reflects our expectation that B.C.'s economy will continue expanding modestly through 2015," S&P said.

"The ratings reflect our opinion of the province's wealthy economy, strong budgetary flexibility, and adequate liquidity," S&P credit analyst Paul Judson said. S&P expressed the view that B.C.'s "persistent after-capital budget deficits and large debt burden constrain the ratings."


Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/busines...redit+rating/8239138/story.html#ixzz2QM1Uc7RG
 
Yes, very good point !!

Love it - get in your gas sucking truck to pull you even greater gas sucking boat and then vote Green. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. If folks here are really serious about going Green, I'd suggest a Prius, a rowboat and solar panels would be good first steps.
 
radical opinion really,, not realistic....


And.....it's a radical vote to cast your vote based on the original post as to the "Greenies" fishing mandate/statement.


That.....my friend is a double standard and hypocrisy. ;) :rolleyes:








Have you read anything on their site beyond the fisheries statement? We would be livin in a Co-Op if they had their way.......wearing poncho's and Birkenstocks......and I look ghetto wearing either of those, not to mention smelling of pachoolie in the line to collect my check from unemployment insurance!!! :D
 
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radical opinion really,, not realistic....


I am still scratching my head at this statement? How is Bruce's statement "radical"? It points out the hypocrisy in voting "Green" given their party platform/mandate.

Row your arses out to Swiftsure bank.....knowing when you get back in (3 days later) that you can hop on your bike and pedal your arse back to the solar community you now SHOULD be calling home. Cuz that's how you voted......right??? ;) Oh......and don't forget to get pissed off and stomp around in your Birkenstocks because our West Coast Fishery is still managed at the Federal level.
 
It is very simple...

If you want more of the same - then vote the same.

If you want change, then vote for change, AND/OR work with the status quo politicians you voted for to make the needed change happen.

If you don't do at least one of these, then don't complain - you got what you voted for!!!!
 
Some of you here should sign up for the NRA board of directors. Lol
 
Fisheries mismanegement started well before The conservatives came in. Most people enjoy having a job. You wouldnt see many guys out on the water if we had 23% unemployment rate.

And.....that right there is the bottom line; who gives a rat's butt how many fish are in the ocean and who gives a rat's butt why we have a "fishing forum"???? If the economy is a pile of sh*t which it will be with the Dipsy's or Greenies........fishing revenue is going DOWN! You look at what is a relatively "small" election issue in fisheries (big on a fishing forum but small in the bigger picture) and look at EVERYTHING else in that you are voting for and what the 'trickle down' factor is going to be. Unless you are a Unionist.....the NDP is going to do nothing good for this province.

Fishing/Fisheries is SO small in the big picture.......yet it will be affected in monumental ways if you vote a hippy/socialist government in.

All the more reason to work (and IMHO vote) for change! If we have a long history of mis-management why let it continue?

I understand that we need to balance between the economy and the environment, that is not my point.

I am trying to help to see and think about things a little differently and encourage us all that we don't have to settle for the status quo - let's work for change about the things we care about!

With this perspective it dosesn't really matter how we vote as long as we work hard to pressure govt's to undo all the years of mis-management. This is my point

WIW......appreciate your stance and absoluely respect it. I will be the first to eat a 10'6" mooching rod if the "change" ever happened and even 50% of the fishery commitments noted in the first post come true. You can vote for "change"......or you can be realistic and ASK a green party member HOW they are going to go about making this fisheries mandate happen. I will guarantee you.......print out that page in the original post, bring it to a green candidate and ask them HOW.....not all the parsley on the dinner plate.....HOW they are going to make this happen......you are gonna hear "uhhhhh.....ummmm......well we are going to take fisheries management from the Feds......we need to ensure our salmon are managed by us". Some sort of hippy dippy BS......but they will give you zippo for a "HOW"......and just so you know.....for your "HOW" to happen as per their statement.....taxes are going up.

So....vote Green or Dippy all you want......but when your taxes go up.....and EVERYTHING you do costs more......don't come on this forum to ***** and whine about it; much like I am not to do in voting for Liberals and somewhat of the status quo....which means a relatively health economy.

For those that slag the Libs.....take note that this latest administration took us through the largest global recession/meltdown that the WORLD has seen in decades! Complain all you want about our provincial economy and loss of jobs etc.....we are in GREAT shape considering the fallout that has happened in other provinces.....AND countries. Gordon/Christy did NOT cause what happened around the world.....they have just tried to get us through it relatively unscathed.

You know big thing I would hate to see is most people going NDP and current goverment suck and then don't bother. Its already low with voter turnout... It amazes how people don't ever vote, and then ***** about the government...

I agree.....voter turnout in this province.....and quite frankly right across the board is appalling.

I am usually rather un-political so this is tough for me to get further involved in. I will make one statement and then I am out.

I am not impressed by the Liberals arrogance but I fear the NDP's hidden agenda far worse than a little arrogance. There are really only two choices, hold your nose, vote Liberal and maintain an economy that has flourished for the past 12 years, or hold your nose and vote NDP and watch the taxes increase (already acknowledged by the NDP) and watch the economy go in the toilet, unless you're a teacher, hospital worker, or trade union leader.

Amen.........this province is f*cked when it comes to politics. If people vote based on not being truly educated on the issues (google is your friend) and just look at things from a high level....then we are doomed. I will be the first to say......all the polls that you hear with the DIPS way ahead are largely people who are just pissed at the Libs and don't have the faintest clue what they are getting into with the DIPS.

Anyone saying they're gonna vote NDP because of Liberal corruption has a damn short memory, the leader is as crooked as they come. The vote will be easy for me, we need jobs and the libs have done well on that front.

Great point triplenickel!!! Gordon may have got caught driving under the influence on Maui.......but he sure as hell didn't get nailed doing something like Dixhead did.

I laugh at this article; anytime people add in the facts about DixHead's past they are deleted. http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Someone+keeping+Adrian+squeaky+clean+Wikipedia/8219088/story.html

Why? I always here that please explain more..... Like I said totally on the fencepost on this one.... The liberals are poisoning my drinking water up here so personally that's out the window right now until that is overturned... I guess its really NDP or green for me... Voting a party that brought in HST, and has the highest unemployment numbers in Canada how people would vote liberal in again.... NDP doesn't scare me on what they do its just there leaders really suck.....

I see it is not easy like I said the choices suck either way...

HigFIve......how are they poisoning your water? Is the NDP/Greenies talking about putting in new infrastructure to give you "non-poisoned" water? If "yes".....have they told you at what cost? No idea where you call home but I would be interested to hear more.

What jobs? I am waiting for them on the island? If you guys can list out all this growth I would be interested may help my decision a little.

What sector do you or did you work in? Yes......forestry is taking it on the chin and will continue to; that is the USA's driving forces. You DO realize that the Island as far as jobs go is somewhat limited? It is NOT a hub of commerce.....with the exception of Government related work it is pretty much resource driven. Like it or not.....the Island is kind of a retirement community....and that is not me trying to sound like an butt but it is an affordable place for people to live with nice surroundings but you are not going to be moving there for a crazy high paying job.

I have a green pin already and although I don't agree with all of their platform but a 4 year term isn't enough time to get to radical unless you want to commit political suicide and never have another chance at leading. With the way the 2 big party's have performed in their last attempts it is time to give them a wake up call. Time to show them they aren't the only two kids on the block.

Ya.....rattle their cribs for a wake up call.......and then just wait til your crib gets rattled back with the financial truth of what you just voted for; for a "wake up call".

I will never say that the Libs are the best thing......however they are the BEST option for this Province moving forward. Sure....the Dipsy's were in power some time back and many will say "that was then....this is now"......but look at what they did for the economy in this province "then" when things weren't anywhere near as challenging as they are now.

Enjoy your tax hikes.

Would love to see both Dix and Clark have to eat crow and concede the election to a big underdog. That would be priceless!!!

Yup.......and then all the "pro fishermen" will be bitching about the lack of clients hiring them. The Yanks are staying away due to the dollar......and then you have a deflated economy with DixHead at the reigns and the locals will not be booking charters as much.....so your marketing ends up focussed on China and Alberta.....enjoy your crow.
 
Voting a party that brought in HST, and has the highest unemployment numbers in Canada how people would vote liberal in again.... NDP doesn't scare me on what they do its just there leaders really suck.....

I see it is not easy like I said the choices suck either way...

Okay.....so you corrected yourself with respect to Unemployment and the fact we are 4th or 5th lowest in the country.

HST......yes....poorly implemented and that's why the plebes followed VanderScam. I don't deny it was introduced UNBELIEVABLY poorly.......BUT.....the bottom line is that financially it is much better for this province.

I find it ironic that people will say.....VOTE NDP......which is going to bring tax hikes......but they say "no" to the HST which has FAR more benefits to the provincial economy. Far, far too many people voted against the HST because of it's implementation without being educated on what it actually would bring to this province.
 
thanks Pippen...that pretty much sums it up!


Hahaha........I am here for the people.

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So Pip how do you square your vote with the track record of the current government ideas with pipelines and coal exports?
 
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