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Now Skeeter, we don't want any trouble up here.
quote:Originally posted by chris73
Where are your facts?
quote:Originally posted by chris73
Where are your facts?
[?]quote:There was a study done in 2007 and I can't remember the web address, but if you want to continue your research you can google it.
...quote:However, look at some of the other dams that will show you where these fish are headed.
[?] Can't see the relevance!quote:That tells you how many fish went up the Snake River!
...quote:Most of the Columbian showing in Juan de Fuca is actually from the Dworshak National Fish Hatchery.
[?] So, that is what your statement but hardly a fact. Where is the proof? And then where do they show in May? In the JDF? How would you know? At the hatchery?quote:The Dworshak are then followed by the Snake River Hatchery Run. They usually start showing in May. Yep, FACT!
[?] What's that got to do with springs in JDF? And your believe is hardly a fact.quote:The Yakima Run will begin showing in June. Again, most of these fish are returning from the "Highway". This has all been proven! It is fact and again, you are going to have to "google" it! I all ready know the facts!
Nice fact! And the ones you caught probably had an US hatchery baseball cap on, right?quote:Why they come in the Strait of Juan de Fuca? I don't know and I can't find, but I know they due, as I have caught them. That is Fact!
Praise Charlie as his "knowledge" are facts! You would make a great BC politician!quote:This is based on my experience and again I know it is fact,
Fine, but how again does this prove a Columbian run in JDF in spring time?quote:FYI - since the early 1970s, hatchery salmon makes up more than 80 percent of commercially caught salmon in the Columbia River. This is also, Fact!
quoteost has tracked 92,859 Chinook in the Strait of Juan de Fuca from the Columbia Basin between May 2005 and September 2007! If you want I can post all 1,239 pages? That is also, FACT!
[?]quote:There was a study done in 2007 and I can't remember the web address, but if you want to continue your research you can google it.
...quote:However, look at some of the other dams that will show you where these fish are headed.
[?] Can't see the relevance!quote:That tells you how many fish went up the Snake River!
...quote:Most of the Columbian showing in Juan de Fuca is actually from the Dworshak National Fish Hatchery.
[?] So, that is what your statement but hardly a fact. Where is the proof? And then where do they show in May? In the JDF? How would you know? At the hatchery?quote:The Dworshak are then followed by the Snake River Hatchery Run. They usually start showing in May. Yep, FACT!
[?] What's that got to do with springs in JDF? And your believe is hardly a fact.quote:The Yakima Run will begin showing in June. Again, most of these fish are returning from the "Highway". This has all been proven! It is fact and again, you are going to have to "google" it! I all ready know the facts!
Nice fact! And the ones you caught probably had an US hatchery baseball cap on, right?quote:Why they come in the Strait of Juan de Fuca? I don't know and I can't find, but I know they due, as I have caught them. That is Fact!
Praise Charlie as his "knowledge" are facts! You would make a great BC politician!quote:This is based on my experience and again I know it is fact,
Fine, but how again does this prove a Columbian run in JDF in spring time?quote:FYI - since the early 1970s, hatchery salmon makes up more than 80 percent of commercially caught salmon in the Columbia River. This is also, Fact!
quoteost has tracked 92,859 Chinook in the Strait of Juan de Fuca from the Columbia Basin between May 2005 and September 2007! If you want I can post all 1,239 pages? That is also, FACT!
quote:Originally posted by chris73
Excuse me Charlie but let me summarize your facts that apparently prove that the early run through the JDF consists of Columbian fish:
You know, based on this you know nothing. Sorry but that is just the only fact you have proven
quote:Originally posted by chris73
Excuse me Charlie but let me summarize your facts that apparently prove that the early run through the JDF consists of Columbian fish:
You know, based on this you know nothing. Sorry but that is just the only fact you have proven
quote:Originally posted by Gooey Bob
Interesting thread, first, a question, then an observation...
Are the "recoveries" here actually CWT recoveries of cuught fish, or are they fish that are carrying acoustic tags and then the "recovery" is the recognition of that acoustic signature by the POST system? If it is the latter, then I'd suggest that the data in no way actually represent the migration pattern of any large stock group like "Columbia River Chinook" (which is actually broken down into several smaller stock groups like "Upriver Brights, Tules, etc) but rather a smaller subset of fish that are marked as part of the POST program.
Secondly, and assuming these are CWT recoveries and not POST hits, I wonder just what Canadian fisheries management area is covered under the heading "Juan De Fuca" in the data Charlie has presented here. My guess is that its all of areas 19 & 20. Considering that area 20 extends up as far as Bonilla Pt. its not hard to imagine that Columbia bound fish will end up being caught there. IMO, in this debate, "Juan De Fuca" caught fish would be more in the Sherringham and points east zone. Renfew is to Juan De Fuca, like outer Barkley Sound is to Alberni Inlet. Sure you'll catch Robertson Creek Chinook at Swale Rock, but you're just as likely to catch a Yakima River fish there too. Its a serious mized stock fishery at Renfrew, and they do catch a lot of US produced fish. CWT data show that. It makes sense that you'd recover a fair number of chinook of Columbia origin at Port Renfrew, but I'd bet my Islanders that there is a direct negative relationship between the frequency of catching Columbia Bound mature Chinook (feeders can show up anywhere, but typically aren't 40 - 60 lbs )and the distance east from the open pacific you are in Juan De Fuca.
Couldn't resist...
Gooey