Sockeye Techniques

[Rum Buddies]

This is interesting:
Neon pink is retaining it's color at depth, hmm a lot like a sockey squirt eh

 

[finaddict]

Colour in water is SUBSTANTIALLY variable and is effected by ALL of the following at the same time:

Salinity
Turbidity
Temperature
Thermoclines
organisms within the water column (i.e. algae blooms, phytoplankton & zooplankton)
available light
cloud cover
sun's location in the sky (summer and winter)

As a diver, (and having dove for 40 years) I can corroborate Poppa Swiss's assertion. Colour is still very much identifiable beyond the spectrum limits identified. It may not be AS red, or AS pink, or AS yellow, but it is still very much identifiable as those colours. In this particular argument, no one is correct and yet everyone is correct.

 

[arima arima]

Do we know anything about this picture, like maybe a flash or lighting was used.? Its also a tropical shot there in which the water clarity is insane.
BUt for sure i have seen reds in the 100 to 120 range diving many times so im not sure.

 

[Whole in the Water]

All sorts of good data that has answered this question of what humans and most importantly fish can see when it comes to colors underwater. After it is all said and done IMHO the most important aspect is contrasting colors of light and dark to make the lure stands out from the darker bottom and the lighter surface depending if the fish is looking up or down.

Graph for clear water One for ocean water



One of the best books on fish vision: http://www.amazon.ca/What-Fish-See-Colin-Kageyama/dp/1571881409

Article from a time honored lure manufacturer http://www.mepps.com/fishing-article/color-technology-what-you-see-is-not-what-you-get/77

Good set of videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpQTh_tnJ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqyVX3oZk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTi5nJqEzvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5P6UMGiT7o


Photographic sources of info that say the same: http://www.uwphotographyguide.com/underwater-photography-lighting-fundamentals

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_vision

 

[Pineapple Express]

Back to the sockeye this year, the reports from the Fraser in the other thread say depths of around 35-60ft. Sounds like finding the school of fish is the important part. Do the sox have a preference for shallower water or deeper water?

Do you run the riggers at different depths to cover more water or do you put everything to the same depth to maximize the "school" effect from the dummy flashers?

 

[Karma-Kazi]

Guys in Sooke were getting them on bait down to 140ft. But most I heard of were in the 25-70 ft range. That is where I would start looking. Who really wants to haul up a sockey from 140ft. Most will shake the hook before you even see it from that depth.

Spread the gear out for serching and then when you find where most are running tighten the gear up and nail them.

-KK

 

[Pineapple Express]

Sounds good, I'll give it a whirl on Friday!

 

[SteelyDan]

Is the purple onion a decent sockey flasher? Reason I am asking is I have a shwack of them

 

[Karma-Kazi]

I havent caught a sockey in sooke yet this year and that is the only flasher I have been running for some time now. But who knows what it would do with a pink squirt on the end. Mine are dummys and I run bait.

-KK

 

[fishin solo]

ive got a few running that flasher

Is the purple onion a decent sockey flasher? Reason I am asking is I have a shwack of them

 

[reelfast]

depending if the fish is looking up or down.

just to clarify, anadramous fish only look UP that's why it is so important to 'see' the fish on your sonar adjusting your DR to be above them.

 

[Tricky Troller]

^^^^That right there looks just like the 10 I use!^^^^

Tried & true

That right there is an ole Hot Spot Original . . . used heavily in these parts.

 

[eriks]

Is a 4/0 hook a good size to rig or is it a little big?

 

[Canso]

4/0 is good 5/0 is better, tie them as close as you can facing opposite ways. Also for some reason my black hooks out fish the silver ones for sockeye

 

[MrBlitz]

I was wondering if a 14' Duroboat w/25 hp Yamaha is a large enough boat to fish T10/Sand Heads areas? If not, are there other areas near Vancouver this could be used? I was hoping to get out a try some Sockeye fishing. Thanks

 

[Pineapple Express]

I was wondering if a 14' Duroboat w/25 hp Yamaha is a large enough boat to fish T10/Sand Heads areas? If not, are there other areas near Vancouver this could be used? I was hoping to get out a try some Sockeye fishing. Thanks

On a calm day with an eye on the winds/tides I'd be comfortable taking a rig like that out the North Arm and fishing around UBC area. The other option is launching at Vanier Park (False Creek) and running out to Spanish Banks. Hopefully some others can chime in too.

Coho and chinook off West Vancouver is another option. There's a launch in Ambleside but parking is limited, and the ramp is only good from about a 5ft tide or higher for most trailers.

 

[MrBlitz]

On a calm day with an eye on the winds/tides I'd be comfortable taking a rig like that out the North Arm and fishing around UBC area. The other option is launching at Vanier Park (False Creek) and running out to Spanish Banks. Hopefully some others can chime in too.

Coho and chinook off West Vancouver is another option. There's a launch in Ambleside but parking is limited, and the ramp is only good from about a 5ft tide or higher for most trailers.

Thanks Pineapple ... I may enlist the assistance of a friend who had done a fair bit of saltwater fishing years ago. Just to learn to read the weather etc.

I appreciate your help.

 

[wishiniwasfishin1]

4/0 is good 5/0 is better, tie them as close as you can facing opposite ways. Also for some reason my black hooks out fish the silver ones for sockeye

Not sure if anyone mentioned this in the thread, but has anyone tried to fish just black hooks? (no squirt) I know the commercial trollers do well with them up in Alsaka...

 

[Big Green Machine]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this in the thread, but has anyone tried to fish just black hooks? (no squirt) I know the commercial trollers do well with them up in Alsaka...

Not sure it was mentioned in this thread, but it is a very common presentation.

 

[scobo]

Never tried black hooks but also heard they work. but have run a double red gamy with piece of pink wool that got almost equal hits as the regular pink squirts one day but only because the fish were thick and was looking to experiment...but at the end of the day and when I am desperate I run regular squirts because why mess with something that just continues to works. I have also found sometimes thinning the squirt out a bit also works sometimes.