Bye Bye Mr Harper!!!

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Wow, wonder what proroguing parliament is going to do for the TSX.

Given your knowledge of the scene Serengeti, do you think this will help? One the one hand it may buy the conservatives time to wage a PR war but shutting down parliament now!?

He might as well get it over with now.

Nerka
 
What do I have to gain?, everything that Harper stands for is totally wrong. No Aboriginal Econmic package? He killed the 1 Billion dollar deal that was worked out just before he took office. I also happen to be in favour of decriminalization of Marijuna, he also killed that law that was about to pass before he took control. At least now we can move on with some issues that actually matter to the average canadian, not just more money for the far right. I happen to like the middle left ground rather then leaning to a socialist state. My god if Harper had his way every Canadian would have the same hunting and fishing rights!!!!![xx(]

Take only what you need.
 
quote:Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

What do I have to gain?, everything that Harper stands for is totally wrong. No Aboriginal Econmic package? He killed the 1 Billion dollar deal that was worked out just before he took office. I also happen to be in favour of decriminalization of Marijuna, he also killed that law that was about to pass before he took control. At least now we can move on with some issues that actually matter to the average canadian, not just more money for the far right. I happen to like the middle left ground rather then leaning to a socialist state. My god if Harper had his way every Canadian would have the same hunting and fishing rights!!!!![xx(]

Take only what you need.

That last statement say's it all and I sort of expected that comment...sad really.
I'm not going to respond the way I'd like...just not worth it!

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quote:Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

What do I have to gain?, everything that Harper stands for is totally wrong. No Aboriginal Econmic package? He killed the 1 Billion dollar deal that was worked out just before he took office. I also happen to be in favour of decriminalization of Marijuna, he also killed that law that was about to pass before he took control. At least now we can move on with some issues that actually matter to the average canadian, not just more money for the far right. I happen to like the middle left ground rather then leaning to a socialist state. My god if Harper had his way every Canadian would have the same hunting and fishing rights!!!!![xx(]

Take only what you need.

Here's my view from the Harper side of the table, I've swung somewhat conservative in the last couple of years simply because our Conservatives today are like the Liberals were 20 years ago. If we're just debating politics, here is what I think:

Why exactly does Aboriginal descent qualify one for a handout? Technically I'm aboriginal, because I'm %50 descended from East Russian folk, who came across the Bering Sea Land Bridge 40,000 years ago to North America. I should qaulify for something since I bet I'm related to our native folk somehow.

Decriminilizing pot would offer very small gains for the average Canadian, and a very big problem in offending our neighbor to the south. Before the "American Imperial Empire" chants start flying, they account for somewhere in the neighborhood %70 of our exports. Although it's morally wrong to dance to the beat of thier drum, it's also important to keep the money flowing our way instead of keeping the Blunt Brothers Cafe on the cover of High Times. Besides, I was a stoner in my somewhat younger years, I seem to remember one had to be a real idiot to actually get in trouble for being caught with dope. Nor do I ever recall it helping me with a headache, back pain, or any other medical issue, but maybe that was just me. The other argument would be why stop at dope, LSD, Mushrooms, DMT and MDMA are also not physiaclly addictive. Cigs and Booze were here too long, they are our vices, and that' probably where it will stay for a while. We can't get rid of them, because the last time we tried, it gave birth to modern organized crime. Most of the people in our contry who would consider themselves established oppose decrim anyway, otherwise, some campaign consultant would have made it the cornerstone of a campaign as it's a hot button issue. Maybe if more pot smokers voted, this issue would have some more clout behind it, but alas, like the Green Party, I just don't think enough people are interested.

The far right typically has more money the the far left because they got off their arse, moved out before they were 30, and took up a vocation that didn't involve wondering why a masters in Medevil History doesn't qualify them as the CEO of Haliburton. If they (the evil right wing businesspeople)had to break a couple of eggs to make their omlette, so be it, this is a country that rewards someone for hard work, not for their ability to write a proposal indicating their worthiness of a handout.

I THINK that we need smaller government that gets out of the way of people, that doesnt' cost us a fortune, and, last but not least, does not nanny adult Canadians. Keep us healthy, keep invaders out of the country, keep the roads and the lights on, give us a stable currency, and keep out of our way. And leave people responsible for their own actions. If I gambled on being able to support myself for the rest of my life bolting wheels onto a car for $38 per hour, then wonder what the hell I'm going to do being 50 and watching the factory close, I should only thank myself.

If we all had the same hunting rights, that could be either good or bad, as that would mean we could only fish and hunt during the day with sport gear, or we could all chase fish and whales with jet boats and mono gillnets across rivers.

Bear in mind, these are just thoughts, not jabs.

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quote:Originally posted by richmake

quote:Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

What do I have to gain?, everything that Harper stands for is totally wrong. No Aboriginal Econmic package? He killed the 1 Billion dollar deal that was worked out just before he took office. I also happen to be in favour of decriminalization of Marijuna, he also killed that law that was about to pass before he took control. At least now we can move on with some issues that actually matter to the average canadian, not just more money for the far right. I happen to like the middle left ground rather then leaning to a socialist state. My god if Harper had his way every Canadian would have the same hunting and fishing rights!!!!![xx(]

Take only what you need.

That last statement say's it all and I sort of expected that comment...sad really.
I'm not going to respond the way I'd like...just not worth it!

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No worries Chad... I'll take this one lol.

I seriously hope that was sarcasm Fish Assassin. What gives you any right to fish/hunt more than anyone else? I can say for certain that you did not earn that right. I look forward to a future Conservative majority which does make it so we are all on a level playing field and have the same hunting and fishing rights...and I mean EVERYONE!

You do realize that the coalition does not have a specific Aboriginal Economic Stimulus package either I hope...although with the content of your recent posts I'm guessing you didn't know that. The Kelowna Accord was rightly put to bed...but that is another debate on its own.

I believe it that you are for the decriminalization of Marijuana...because from your posts on this thread I'm assuming you've been high everytime you've said something. I respect your and others opinions, but only if it is one that is educated...clearly yours is not.

As for proroguing and the TSX, I think it would help relative to the other option available. Had this coalition idea never came up we'd be better off than any scenerio that is upon us now (other than election). Markets would react extremely negative to a coalition gov't that includes a seperatist party...that is pretty much the definition of unstable. So proroguing until January when a budget can be tabled would allow for possibly cooler heads to prevail and for more to take a step back and really ask the best way to move forward instead of this sudden rush to try and get a coalition together as soon as possible...which is more of Dion trying to become PM as soon as possible leaving his fellow Liberals with one hell of a mess to clean up after the coalition when it becomes clear it is even more unstable and bad for Canada then a Conservative minority.

Note: all of the above is solely my opinion...not necessarily that of anyone else at Serengeti FC.

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I THINK that we need smaller government that gets out of the way of people, that doesnt' cost us a fortune, and, last but not least, does not nanny adult Canadians. Keep us healthy, keep invaders out of the country, keep the roads and the lights on, give us a stable currency, and keep out of our way. And leave people responsible for their own actions.

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I think you hit the nail on the head here. This is EXACTLY what we want and absolutely NOT what the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition will ever agree to give us.

WE NEED ANOTHER ELECTION to sort this crap out once and for all!
 
Although this process of our democratic society is very rare precedent has been set already by the Governer General at the time;

from CBC
quote:In 1926, then Gov. Gen. Lord Byng refused Prime Minister Mackenzie King's request to dissolve Parliament, instead inviting the opposition to replace him.
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quote:What gives you any right to fish/hunt more than anyone else?

The Supreme Court of Canada I would guess, by recognizing my title. Thankfully a higher power than the PM.

quote:I believe it that you are for the decriminalization of Marijuana...because from your posts on this thread I'm assuming you've been high every time you've said something.

Perhaps I just don't see the problem with it that everyone else seems to think exists from the propaganda that is still being spread. I have a pretty Liberal view about it. It is a personal choice just like smoking Cigs or drinking beer. The only problem that I have with it is the low-life people that make their living off of it. I say take it out of the hands of the criminal element and make a few dollars off of it. Go downtown Vancouver and there are licensed establishments where you can buy it. The government gets their cut and police turn a blind eye. Defiantly not a fan of the underground pot movement by any means, but why should an honest law abiding person like myself be worried of prosecution for perhaps smoking a joint or 2 a month? I don't drink alcohol at all, watched my Father's liver wilt away from that, had to watch him act a fool every time we would go out to a family function. Not cool in my eyes, but to each his own I guess. Never liked the way I felt the next day either. Enough said.


Take only what you need.
 
Something makes me a little creaped out thinking about Dion and ejackelayton. Call for a new election for sure or wait until January.
 
Something makes me a little creaped out thinking about Dion and ejackelayton. Call for a new election for sure or wait until January.
 
I say we let D.F.O. run the country. I wonder what would happen.[?]
 
I say we let D.F.O. run the country. I wonder what would happen.[?]
 
Nerka, I did a wee bit of research tonight about your question to do with proroguing.

Proroguing will not affect getting things done, it is business as usual for the government in power and bills will still get paid, money spent in different ways etc. I don't believe the TSX would react negatively to this...the coalition is the definition of unstable...just watch CPAC and Jack Layton's interview about how Gilles Duceppe said the coalition would help Quebec's seperatist movement...Jack didn't know what to say and this shows just how almost impossible it will be for these 3 parties to work together. TALK ABOUT UN'EFFING'STABLE!!

I honestly do not know what the NDP and Liberals stand for anymore...Dion said he would not work in a coalition...now he is...Layton said he would not cut corporate tax rates...now the coalition would go ahead with the Conservative cuts...I'd say Dion should resign...but he already has! [:p]

If there is an emergency situation (aka flood, or more relevant now, economic crisis all of a sudden) then the Conservatives are free to spend money how they wish without the authority of the House of Commons during a prorogue...but there would be a vote on it once commons resumed. The money would already be spent though...so I'm not sure the sense in the vote...but whatever.

Fish Assassin...the whole tone of your last post reeked of a sense that you are higher than the rest of us...your "title" may give you that right...but I can say with certainty you do not deserve it...nor do any others. If you went out with a bow and arrow you carved, with a torch you made yourself, I'd say all the power to you...but that's not how it works now...you have lost your traditional ways.


"The far right typically has more money the the far left because they got off their arse, moved out before they were 30, and took up a vocation that didn't involve wondering why a masters in Medevil History doesn't qualify them as the CEO of Haliburton. If they (the evil right wing businesspeople)had to break a couple of eggs to make their omlette, so be it, this is a country that rewards someone for hard work, not for their ability to write a proposal indicating their worthiness of a handout. "

Couldn't say it better myself LC...although a bit of a generalization...most DEFINITELY true!!!

I know from other forums I am on...that Alberta is extremely pissed and will definitely have just as large, if not larger, seperatist movement than Quebec if this coalition goes through. Can always count on Dion and Captain Jack to split up the country even more than it already was....

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Nerka, I did a wee bit of research tonight about your question to do with proroguing.

Proroguing will not affect getting things done, it is business as usual for the government in power and bills will still get paid, money spent in different ways etc. I don't believe the TSX would react negatively to this...the coalition is the definition of unstable...just watch CPAC and Jack Layton's interview about how Gilles Duceppe said the coalition would help Quebec's seperatist movement...Jack didn't know what to say and this shows just how almost impossible it will be for these 3 parties to work together. TALK ABOUT UN'EFFING'STABLE!!

I honestly do not know what the NDP and Liberals stand for anymore...Dion said he would not work in a coalition...now he is...Layton said he would not cut corporate tax rates...now the coalition would go ahead with the Conservative cuts...I'd say Dion should resign...but he already has! [:p]

If there is an emergency situation (aka flood, or more relevant now, economic crisis all of a sudden) then the Conservatives are free to spend money how they wish without the authority of the House of Commons during a prorogue...but there would be a vote on it once commons resumed. The money would already be spent though...so I'm not sure the sense in the vote...but whatever.

Fish Assassin...the whole tone of your last post reeked of a sense that you are higher than the rest of us...your "title" may give you that right...but I can say with certainty you do not deserve it...nor do any others. If you went out with a bow and arrow you carved, with a torch you made yourself, I'd say all the power to you...but that's not how it works now...you have lost your traditional ways.


"The far right typically has more money the the far left because they got off their arse, moved out before they were 30, and took up a vocation that didn't involve wondering why a masters in Medevil History doesn't qualify them as the CEO of Haliburton. If they (the evil right wing businesspeople)had to break a couple of eggs to make their omlette, so be it, this is a country that rewards someone for hard work, not for their ability to write a proposal indicating their worthiness of a handout. "

Couldn't say it better myself LC...although a bit of a generalization...most DEFINITELY true!!!

I know from other forums I am on...that Alberta is extremely pissed and will definitely have just as large, if not larger, seperatist movement than Quebec if this coalition goes through. Can always count on Dion and Captain Jack to split up the country even more than it already was....

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