Well I guess I got lucky, we started fishing at the point grey bell bouy around 7 am monday morning landed 2 nice springs about 17 - 18 lbs, they looked like twins!!! trolled out to the QA was getting rough went back to the bell bouy and hit another around 20 lbs, lost 2 more , headed in at 11am, cleaned em, smoked 1 and eatin some on the barby for dinner tonite, what a great day, oh ya i was using a green Apex on 1 side,and herring strip on the other ,, the strip seems to be the one as we had 3 hits on the strip, well I will try again on Sunday as long as the winds are low , I am fishing from a 12 foot aluminum, have a great day and good luck to all !!!