Derby for the members of the Forum, could you please explain the rational behind why the SFI has refused to endorse and support the PBPS and their mission?
Derby the Seal problem is the major reason why our fishery is in such the terrible state. For many years the SFI has been the voice of the fishing community. On an issue of such monumental importance
it only seems reasonable to assume that the PBPS would have the backing of the SFI? I think that Forum members have a right to know why the SFI is not supporting the efforts of the PBPS.? Please explain to the members the reasons why this has happened?
Do you have SVIAC endorsement?
This is going in circles and not getting us anywhere. One person thinks sfi didn’t do enough. Might be right. Others disagree, could also be right. Guess what? None of that really matters now as we need to get our fishery back as much as possible and look forward. Chance for everyone of us AND groups like SFI to really step up...cause we need them and everyone else to now.
Derby I find it really hard to believe and to understand why you don't understand why the SFI should support the PBPS in what is unquestionably the greatest and most important issue of our time? My guess is that you do not know the answers to this question? I am just looking for some of the reasons why the SFI seem to be in bed with the tree huggers and the environmentalists on this issue? Where do you and Wildmanyeah stand on this issue?[/QU
a single minded responds from a single mind person ... the issues are so much more then just seals.... I would say one is not opposed to what PBPS is doing just we have a different way of doing business ... I see as usual u start to fire out the insults... and I'm still waiting for my answer" Why is it so important we support you"
Why PBPS can not do it alone.?? . you need SFI to hold your hand? Who says SFI isn't doing it own thing regarding problematic seals & seal lions.. as i just said " we have the some of the same goals just a different way of attaining them".. if that is not good enough for u well I'm sorry ...
No lecture was intended, merely an observation of a reaction to culling pinnipeds.I am not buying this at all. First of all most on here don't need a lecture on the difference between fish eating and mammal eating Orca.
We all have biases and some groups are well-funded, cohesive and have a powerful narrative that we must be aware of. Certain populations of seals have proven to be "problems", as you mention. Reference the article below.[/QUOTE]Secondly the Vancouver Aquarium and Ocean Wise are not without bias in that they serve as a rehab service for Pinnipeds. In effect fixing up seals that would otherwise have died. This is an excellent tool for them for advertising and fund raising... Further those seals that fish certain lighted man made structures up rivers at night for example, is not natural or historical and is new learned behavior that is devastating to salmon and is caused by humans modification of the environment.
The Vancouver Aquarium for years released injured rehabilitated seals at Porteau Cove. This despite the fact that the DFO Hatchery staff from Tenderfoot were having huge problem with seals attacking their chinook net pens eating smolts and taking brood stock when they were capturing adults. Contacted the Aquarium about issue. They said they would stop the releases at Porteau. Stopped for 1 year and then next year 75 seals were released at Porteau to much media fanfare!I am not buying this at all. First of all most on here don't need a lecture on the difference between fish eating and mammal eating Orca.
Secondly the Vancouver Aquarium and Ocean Wise are not without bias in that they serve as a rehab service for Pinnipeds. In effect fixing up seals that would otherwise have died. This is an excellent tool for them for advertising and fund raising. If they accept that there is an actual overpopulation of seals and some seal lion species then they would have to accept that what they are doing is not only unnecessary but counter productive, perhaps even environmentally damaging in the big picture. Then those pictures of a cute little rehabbed seals would not be as useful for fundraising campaigns. A valid argument could be made for the closure of the Ocean Wise Pinniped rehab. facility. Why are they interfering by increasing already over populated species. Indeed asking why DFO allows this to continue under the current circumstances is a question worth asking.
Some Pinniped populations are at historical highs. I don't think there is any doubt of that. Anecdotally where I spend a lot of time on the water, just in the past 3 years the observable numbers have exploded. Further those seals that fish certain lighted man made structures up rivers at night for example, is not natural or historical and is new learned behavior that is devastating to salmon and is caused by humans modification of the environment.
Finally this is a limited extremely small harvest of seals by First Nations, who for thousands of year were a natural predator and population control mechanism for Pinnipeds on this coast. It seems to me that restoring this population control mechanism is just restoring nature in a small way to its historical natural state.