all those things add up abut the salmon who make it through would be the prime spawners. lots of people cant afford boats. but they have them anyway. we all know no-one is too blame for the lack of fish although its a small wonder there is any salmon around at all.something has to give out there, and it isnt going tobe any volunteer from the user groups you have mentioned. hatcheries apparantly are not the answer maybe letting the fewwho get through spawn, would be good, just a thought.that isif hopefully there is still a river good enough to do it in left i personally eaw the mouth of cowichan river boilingwith large black spring salmon being snagged and caught by sport fisherman not unlike nitinat used to be not long ago. untill one year alec merriman said in the paper there was no springs being caught there anymore duh. it was 4 a day then no limit per year and most guys got there limit, before they lefteach day. commercialguys are backed way off now and natives are going out of favour fast, environment protection is finally getting recognized. we all want fish, but we all gotta give up something, theres more of us everyday and everyone wants their share. i can understand you would be pissed if no retention in river and then dfo opens river to native nets. then we should shut down roads too, theres enough of us to do it. and do it well.