searun
Well-Known Member
Out of respect for the participants at the Round Table and the process, I don't kiss and tell. Suffice to say we worked this out after careful deliberation respecting all involved in the RT.
Somas Sockeye Bulletin
- Thread starter IronNoggin
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wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Understandable I read they walked from the table.
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StupidityKills
Active Member
https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=233847&ID=all
This would be the notice we are waiting for?
This would be the notice we are waiting for?
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
SOMASS SOCKEYE BULLETIN # 6 – 2020 Date: June 30, 2020
For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update
Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake Sockeye outlook < 15,000
Escapement to June 30: Stamp: 41,743 Sproat: 66,181 Total: 107,924
Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing June 28st, 29nd 30th estimated 25,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 15,000 outside.
First in-season re-forecast: June 25th run size upgraded to 250,000
Catch Estimate: 1,760
Somass First Nations - 0
Maa-nulth First Nations - 0
Area D Gillnet - 0
Area B Seine - 0
Recreational – 0
Test Fishery – 1,760
NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:
All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.
First Nations
Hupacasath - FSC gillnets open 12 pm Tuesday June 30 to 12 pm Thursday July 1
Tsu-ma-uss (Hupacasath & Tseshaht) – FSC Hook and Line open 7 days a week.
Maa-nulth – 7 days a week hook and line and gillnet.
Starting June 30th, the harvest plan may include the contracting of designated Area D Gillnet vessels displaying Maa-nulth identification flags to harvest sockeye.
Commercial
Area D Gillnet– open 8 hours from 12 pm to 8 pm Thursday July 2nd, Bamfield Harbour to Hissin Point.
Area B Seine – No opening scheduled.
Recreational
July 1st until further notice 2 sockeye per day in Area 23 including the tidal portions of the Somass River.
Tidal Portion of the Somass River is open 5 am to 10 pm daily.
See FN 0617 FN 0617 Sockeye opening Area 23
Somass Park open July 1st to July 24th daily 1 sockeye per day in a portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River.
See FN 0618 FN 0618 Somass Park
For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update
Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake Sockeye outlook < 15,000
Escapement to June 30: Stamp: 41,743 Sproat: 66,181 Total: 107,924
Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing June 28st, 29nd 30th estimated 25,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 15,000 outside.
First in-season re-forecast: June 25th run size upgraded to 250,000
Catch Estimate: 1,760
Somass First Nations - 0
Maa-nulth First Nations - 0
Area D Gillnet - 0
Area B Seine - 0
Recreational – 0
Test Fishery – 1,760
NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:
All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.
First Nations
Hupacasath - FSC gillnets open 12 pm Tuesday June 30 to 12 pm Thursday July 1
Tsu-ma-uss (Hupacasath & Tseshaht) – FSC Hook and Line open 7 days a week.
Maa-nulth – 7 days a week hook and line and gillnet.
Starting June 30th, the harvest plan may include the contracting of designated Area D Gillnet vessels displaying Maa-nulth identification flags to harvest sockeye.
Commercial
Area D Gillnet– open 8 hours from 12 pm to 8 pm Thursday July 2nd, Bamfield Harbour to Hissin Point.
Area B Seine – No opening scheduled.
Recreational
July 1st until further notice 2 sockeye per day in Area 23 including the tidal portions of the Somass River.
Tidal Portion of the Somass River is open 5 am to 10 pm daily.
See FN 0617 FN 0617 Sockeye opening Area 23
Somass Park open July 1st to July 24th daily 1 sockeye per day in a portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River.
See FN 0618 FN 0618 Somass Park
cohochinook
Well-Known Member
An example of good collaborations by all users groups. DFO needs to look at this model and apply it to other fisheries, instead of the current failed politically motivated decision making that is occurring!
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
SOMASS SOCKEYE BULLETIN # 7 – 2020 Date: July 2, 2020
For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update
Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake Sockeye outlook < 15,000
Escapement to July 1: Stamp: 61,179 Sproat: 79,688 Total: 140,867
Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing June 28th, 29th, 30th estimated 15,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 25,000 outside.
Re-forecast July 2 - run size remains 250,000
Catch Estimate: 9,995
Somass First Nations – 2,240
Maa-nulth First Nations – 1,637
Area D Gillnet – 3,440
Area B Seine - 0
Recreational – 0 (available next bulletin) Test Fishery – 2,678
NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:
All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.
First Nations
Hupacasath - FSC gillnets open 5 am July 3 to 12 pm July 5.
Tseshaht - FSC Communal Drag Seine daily 5 am to 12 pm July 3 - 5.
Tsu-ma-uss (Hupacasath & Tseshaht) – FSC Hook and Line open 7 days a week.
Tsu-ma-uss (Hupacasath & Tseshaht) – FSC Gillnets opens 12 pm July 5 to 12 pm July 6.
Maa-nulth – 7 days a week hook and line and gillnet. Starting June 30th, the harvest plan may include the contracting of designated Area D Gillnet vessels displaying Maa-nulth identification flags to harvest sockeye.
Commercial
Area D Gillnet– open 6 hours from 6 am to 12 pm July 7th, Pocahontas to Hocking Point.
Area B Seine – No opening scheduled.
Recreational
July 1st until further notice 2 sockeye per day in Area 23 including the tidal portions of the Somass River.
Tidal Portion of the Somass River is open 5 am to 10 pm daily.
See FN 0617 FN 0617 Sockeye opening Area 23
Somass Park open July 1st to July 23 daily 1 sockeye per day in a portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River.
See FN 0618 FN 0618 Somass Park
For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update
Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake Sockeye outlook < 15,000
Escapement to July 1: Stamp: 61,179 Sproat: 79,688 Total: 140,867
Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing June 28th, 29th, 30th estimated 15,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 25,000 outside.
Re-forecast July 2 - run size remains 250,000
Catch Estimate: 9,995
Somass First Nations – 2,240
Maa-nulth First Nations – 1,637
Area D Gillnet – 3,440
Area B Seine - 0
Recreational – 0 (available next bulletin) Test Fishery – 2,678
NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:
All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.
First Nations
Hupacasath - FSC gillnets open 5 am July 3 to 12 pm July 5.
Tseshaht - FSC Communal Drag Seine daily 5 am to 12 pm July 3 - 5.
Tsu-ma-uss (Hupacasath & Tseshaht) – FSC Hook and Line open 7 days a week.
Tsu-ma-uss (Hupacasath & Tseshaht) – FSC Gillnets opens 12 pm July 5 to 12 pm July 6.
Maa-nulth – 7 days a week hook and line and gillnet. Starting June 30th, the harvest plan may include the contracting of designated Area D Gillnet vessels displaying Maa-nulth identification flags to harvest sockeye.
Commercial
Area D Gillnet– open 6 hours from 6 am to 12 pm July 7th, Pocahontas to Hocking Point.
Area B Seine – No opening scheduled.
Recreational
July 1st until further notice 2 sockeye per day in Area 23 including the tidal portions of the Somass River.
Tidal Portion of the Somass River is open 5 am to 10 pm daily.
See FN 0617 FN 0617 Sockeye opening Area 23
Somass Park open July 1st to July 23 daily 1 sockeye per day in a portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River.
See FN 0618 FN 0618 Somass Park
What a pathetic state our fishery is in on the island with so many people hauling their boats from all over the island just to catch a couple sockeye. I hope it doesn't go to four the river has already gone to a trickle of fish since it was opened didn't see any in the canyon or pools below the falls yesterday. It doesn't take much too seem likes there's lots in the canal especially when half are jacks it doesn't matter either unless they make it up to spawn and the crazy pressure on them now isn't going to help, amazing how quickly we go from concern to all out exploitation.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
From the gillnetters face book page
The Barkley Roundtable met this afternoon (July 9)
The Area D fishery last week was poor. 15 average catch per boat, 38 boats.
Escapement remains steady, other stakeholders are catching fish at a slow but steady level. The total accounted of fish, between catch and escapement is approximately 200,000 adults, with a further 40,000 estimated to be in the canal and the inlet by the test boat. Given that there is 240,000 fish identified, and it is only early July , it is unlikely that the run is only 250,00 pieces, so they have upgraded the run a second time, this time to 280,000.
At this new run size, Area D has over 3000 allocation to catch.
Area D will open at 5pm on Monday, July 13th for 12 hours, until 5am Tuesday, from the Harbour clock tower down to Pocahontas Point. The fishery will close at 5am and fishermen should call in their logbooks immediately.
DFO will look at the catches, and decide if more fishing time is needed to get our allocation, and the the fishery could reopen as early as Tuesday at noon, if needed (or wanted). This would not be an extension, rather if it happens it will be a separate second opening and will need its own start trip and catch report. For this active management to work, we will need as close to 100% of logbooks called in immediately as possible. Thanks.
If we do get the second opening next week, the outer boundary will be moved inward to Bilton Point to help reduce encounters of Henderson Sockeye.
The Barkley Roundtable met this afternoon (July 9)
The Area D fishery last week was poor. 15 average catch per boat, 38 boats.
Escapement remains steady, other stakeholders are catching fish at a slow but steady level. The total accounted of fish, between catch and escapement is approximately 200,000 adults, with a further 40,000 estimated to be in the canal and the inlet by the test boat. Given that there is 240,000 fish identified, and it is only early July , it is unlikely that the run is only 250,00 pieces, so they have upgraded the run a second time, this time to 280,000.
At this new run size, Area D has over 3000 allocation to catch.
Area D will open at 5pm on Monday, July 13th for 12 hours, until 5am Tuesday, from the Harbour clock tower down to Pocahontas Point. The fishery will close at 5am and fishermen should call in their logbooks immediately.
DFO will look at the catches, and decide if more fishing time is needed to get our allocation, and the the fishery could reopen as early as Tuesday at noon, if needed (or wanted). This would not be an extension, rather if it happens it will be a separate second opening and will need its own start trip and catch report. For this active management to work, we will need as close to 100% of logbooks called in immediately as possible. Thanks.
If we do get the second opening next week, the outer boundary will be moved inward to Bilton Point to help reduce encounters of Henderson Sockeye.
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
SOMASS SOCKEYE BULLETIN # 8 – 2020 Date: July 9, 2020
For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update
Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake Sockeye outlook < 15,000
Escapement to July 8: Stamp: 71,777 Sproat: 93,360 Total: 165,137
Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing July 5 and 6 estimated 15,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 25,000 outside.
Re-forecast July 9 - run size upgraded to 280,000
Catch Estimate: 32,969 Somass First Nations – 17,630 Maa-nulth First Nations – 3,595 Area D Gillnet – 3,520 Area B Seine - 0 Recreational – 4,779 Test Fishery – 3,445
NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:
All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.
First Nations
Hupacasath - FSC gillnets open 5 am July 10 to 12 pm July 12.
Tseshaht - FSC Communal Drag Seine daily 5 am to 12 pm July 10 - 12.
Tsu-ma-uss - FSC Gillnets opens 12 pm July 12 to 12 pm July 14
Tsu-ma-uss - FSC Hook and Line open 7 days a week.
Maa-nulth – 7 days a week hook and line and gillnet. Starting June 30th, the harvest plan may include the contracting of designated Area D Gillnet vessels displaying Maa-nulth identification flags to harvest sockeye.
Commercial
Area D Gillnet– open 12 hours from 5 pm July 13 to 5 am July 14, from Pocahontas to the Clock Tower. An additional opening is possible depending on catch and could occur as soon as 12:00 July 14 with adjusted boundaries.
Area B Seine – No opening scheduled.
Recreational
July 1st until further notice 2 sockeye per day in Area 23 including the tidal portions of the Somass River. Tidal Portion of the Somass River is open 5 am to 10 pm daily. See FN 0617 FN 0617 Sockeye opening Area 23
Somass Park open July 1st to July 23 daily 1 sockeye per day in a portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River. See FN 0618 FN 0618 Somass Park
For more info please call the Port Alberni DFO office at 250 720 4440
Somass Sockeye Stock Assessment Update
Pre-season forecast: Somass (Great Central and Sproat) – 169,000 Henderson Lake Sockeye outlook < 15,000
Escapement to July 8: Stamp: 71,777 Sproat: 93,360 Total: 165,137
Test Fishery: Seine vessel Nita Maria testing July 5 and 6 estimated 15,000 inside 10 Mile Point and 25,000 outside.
Re-forecast July 9 - run size upgraded to 280,000
Catch Estimate: 32,969 Somass First Nations – 17,630 Maa-nulth First Nations – 3,595 Area D Gillnet – 3,520 Area B Seine - 0 Recreational – 4,779 Test Fishery – 3,445
NEXT WEEK’S FISHING PLANS:
All Fishing plans are subject to change depending on weekly meetings.
First Nations
Hupacasath - FSC gillnets open 5 am July 10 to 12 pm July 12.
Tseshaht - FSC Communal Drag Seine daily 5 am to 12 pm July 10 - 12.
Tsu-ma-uss - FSC Gillnets opens 12 pm July 12 to 12 pm July 14
Tsu-ma-uss - FSC Hook and Line open 7 days a week.
Maa-nulth – 7 days a week hook and line and gillnet. Starting June 30th, the harvest plan may include the contracting of designated Area D Gillnet vessels displaying Maa-nulth identification flags to harvest sockeye.
Commercial
Area D Gillnet– open 12 hours from 5 pm July 13 to 5 am July 14, from Pocahontas to the Clock Tower. An additional opening is possible depending on catch and could occur as soon as 12:00 July 14 with adjusted boundaries.
Area B Seine – No opening scheduled.
Recreational
July 1st until further notice 2 sockeye per day in Area 23 including the tidal portions of the Somass River. Tidal Portion of the Somass River is open 5 am to 10 pm daily. See FN 0617 FN 0617 Sockeye opening Area 23
Somass Park open July 1st to July 23 daily 1 sockeye per day in a portion of the freshwater section of the Somass River. See FN 0618 FN 0618 Somass Park
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
wow that a high number from the recs. must be lots of boats out. It open July 1 that notice is up to July 9th 4,779 catch, Thats 531 a day @ 2 per person thats 265 people a day limiting out.
Aces
Well-Known Member
Maybe Dr Suzuki can save them
Islandgirl
Well-Known Member
The rec catch numbers accounted to us is total bs
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Looks like the test fishing numbers have dropped right down today
Aces
Well-Known Member
Not surprised after that haul at papermill dam yesterday
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