SerengetiGuide
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Interim meetings start today
Future Halibut Possession Regs
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SpringVelocity
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Saw that...
SerengetiGuide
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May of been yesterday. Either way they’re going on now is the point. 
Wrote minister of fisheries, local MP, and Nathan Cullen today in regards to rec sector getting 25% of the halibut tac, our fair share.
Wrote minister of fisheries, local MP, and Nathan Cullen today in regards to rec sector getting 25% of the halibut tac, our fair share.
fish4all
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So if the TAC dropped to 3 million you would be happy with 25%? Not a chance. You would be back asking for more.May of been yesterday. Either way they’re going on now is the point.
Wrote minister of fisheries, local MP, and Nathan Cullen today in regards to rec sector getting 25% of the halibut tac, our fair share.
fish4all
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No I would not be happy if it dropped to 3mill. But I would live within my limits.
wildmanyeah
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no Sence in arguing about a piece of the pie that’s going to neaither of us. I’d imagine FSC needs for halibut are growing just as they are for about every seafood product.
5 dollars a pound off the docks
5 dollars a pound off the docks
Derby
Crew Member
Fully agree with u . We would also be able too live within the limits with exception that we have never been given a fair piece of the allocation pie.. if given a fair piece then it would be easier for all of us work together..... As i have been involved in the iphc process I always found it puzzling how we all work so well together at that process but as soon as we say " how about a fair allocation number for the sport sector"...**** hits the fan.... just wish we could sit down & find a number that both sides could live with and be done with this battle...As you know we are all faced with many new fronts everyday.. working together so much more could be accomplished .....
fish4all
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I agree working together on all species is long over due. The DFO divide and conquer is alive and strong. Problem on our side is Most guys can’t afford to loose any more quota. It will bankrupt many in our sector( the bulk of commercial halibut quota is owned by what’s left of the small boat fleet). Government should have done the right thing and bought those guys out. Far less $$ then what JT paid to the journalists. I see another round of picfi buyback papers just arrived so any reduction in quota will also impact FN and quota available to everyone.
ILHG
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fish4all
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It’s the government buying up commercial access for the natives. Currently I believe they have bought 20% of the total halibut quota. The government is the largest lessor on the coast as few natives Fish halibut and most of that quota is leased back to people like me. Pretty screwed up system actually. Band members that would like to fish have to bid in the open market for access to the PICFI Fish and the money goes to ?????
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Final harvest numbers in hand, halibut commission set for meeting
http://www.alaskajournal.com/2018-1...8LWgg4n42iT_S0INpG5b5Ye2jOk7kB0Y#.XCZfpFxKiUn
http://www.alaskajournal.com/2018-1...8LWgg4n42iT_S0INpG5b5Ye2jOk7kB0Y#.XCZfpFxKiUn
wildmanyeah
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Pacific halibut stock assessment slightly down, 2019 catch limits coming in January
https://www.undercurrentnews.com/20...tly-down-2019-catch-limits-coming-in-january/
The results of the 2018 survey and stock assessment for Pacific halibut for US and Canadian catchers were released earlier this week and the industry is again faced with numbers that may not ring alarm bells, but still call for prudent decisions on catch limits.
Although both fishing intensity and total catch dropped from 2017 to 2018, the spawning biomass (adult females in the population) also decreased slightly. This is the result of little recruitment, a problem that is expected to continue for the next few years.
No one really knows why recruitment is so low. Research to answer that and other questions is part of a five-year research plan the Seattle, Washington-based International Pacific Halibut Commission (IPHC) began in 2017.
Meanwhile, annual survey results announced at the IPHC interim meeting were similarly gloomy. The weight per unit effort (WPUE) calculated for the survey and for the commercial fleet coastwide and by regulatory area, showed a general downward trend. The coastwide survey WPUE dropped by 5% this year compared to 2017.
Worst hit in the survey WPUE was a 19% drop in 2C (Southeast Alaska), 13% drop in 3A (Western Gulf of Alaska), and a 10% drop in 4A (Bering Sea). Smaller declines (ranging from 2%-5%) were seen in 2A (WA, OR, and CA), 3A (Central Gulf of Alaska), and 4CDE (Pribilof Islands and north).
The survey also showed moderate increases of WPUE in 2B (British Columbia, Canada) and 4B (Aleutian Islands) by 6% and 12% respectively.
Understandably, the fleet’s WPUE differs significantly since fishermen are not restricted to a grid and go where they think the fish are. But coastwide, an overall 11% drop in WPUE was posted for the 2018 season. That’s more than double what the standarized, grid-based survey showed.
This year for the first time, IPHC looked at WPUE for fixed hooks separate from snap-on gear in the commercial fleet.
In Southeast Alaska, longlines with fixed-hooks caught 12% less than last year while longlines with snap gear caught 5% more on a WPUE basis. But in nearby B.C., both types of longline gear performed poorly compared to last year’s WPUE, but only slightly worse: 2% down for fixed hooks and 5% down for snap gear.
In the central Gulf, fixed gear’s WPUE was 8% down from last year, while snap gear was the same as last year. In the Western Gulf, however, both fixed and snap gear’s WPUE declined by 29% and 22% respectively from last year, the worst performance of all areas.
WPUE for Bering Sea fleets dropped for those using fixed hooks (by 6%) while the WPUE for snap gear in the same area rose 17%.
WPUE was measured separately for tribal and non-tribal boats in Washington, Oregon, and California. Non-tribal WPUE dropped 15% from last year, while tribal boats rose 44% higher WPUE than last year.
These details may seem more confusing than helpful, but it is precisely that level of detail that will be used to support a range of catch limits, given the characteristics of the area’s fleets, for 2019.
IPHC’s survey team also monitored the numbers of fish caught of NPUE (in addition to the weight per skate), for another look at what was available in this year’s ocean.
In each of the regions except 4B, the numbers were down. The worst region was 2 with a 15% decline in NPUE from last year. The other three regions (Region 3, 4, and 4B -- 4B is the Aleutians and often considered almost a separate stock because trends are seen only there) showed declines in single digits, for a coastwide average of 7% down from 2017.
IPHC’s scientists then presented the results of their modeling of the data, using an approach similar to that used by meteorologists predicting where a hurricane will land -- an ensemble of models that gives a more realistic idea of uncertainty, which is a stronger basis for risk assessment.
The process of determining catch limits, which the IPHC will do in January, is all about gauging risk against return.
This year’s catch limit decision table showed different levels of fishing intensity across the top (from no fishing to the highest in 50 years), and what the impact would be on the 1) the stock trend, 2) how close the stock may come to alarm reference points, and 3) at what risk it will put future catches. The resulting matrix shows the odds stakeholders -- both resource managers and business owners -- can expect at different levels of catch.
This year the IPHC is proposing two new rules -- to set fixed dates for the opening and closing of the season, and to consider extended openings in 2A to increase safety and reduce the derby-style aspect, one of the last remaining, of the fishery. Catch limits in that region would not be affected by the extended periods.
Proposals from the industry included changing the fishery in 2A to an IFQ -- individual fishing quota -- program, a concept that drew many questions from the commissioners, and will likely draw more comments from the industry at the annual meeting.
IPHC’s annual meeting will be held at the Empress Hotel in Victoria, B.C. from Jan. 25-Feb. 1, 2019. Catch limits, season dates, and recommendations for new or revised regulations for 2019 will be announced on Feb. 1.
All of the reports from the IPHC’s Interim meeting can be found here
https://www.undercurrentnews.com/20...tly-down-2019-catch-limits-coming-in-january/
The results of the 2018 survey and stock assessment for Pacific halibut for US and Canadian catchers were released earlier this week and the industry is again faced with numbers that may not ring alarm bells, but still call for prudent decisions on catch limits.
Although both fishing intensity and total catch dropped from 2017 to 2018, the spawning biomass (adult females in the population) also decreased slightly. This is the result of little recruitment, a problem that is expected to continue for the next few years.
No one really knows why recruitment is so low. Research to answer that and other questions is part of a five-year research plan the Seattle, Washington-based International Pacific Halibut Commission (IPHC) began in 2017.
Meanwhile, annual survey results announced at the IPHC interim meeting were similarly gloomy. The weight per unit effort (WPUE) calculated for the survey and for the commercial fleet coastwide and by regulatory area, showed a general downward trend. The coastwide survey WPUE dropped by 5% this year compared to 2017.
Worst hit in the survey WPUE was a 19% drop in 2C (Southeast Alaska), 13% drop in 3A (Western Gulf of Alaska), and a 10% drop in 4A (Bering Sea). Smaller declines (ranging from 2%-5%) were seen in 2A (WA, OR, and CA), 3A (Central Gulf of Alaska), and 4CDE (Pribilof Islands and north).
The survey also showed moderate increases of WPUE in 2B (British Columbia, Canada) and 4B (Aleutian Islands) by 6% and 12% respectively.
Understandably, the fleet’s WPUE differs significantly since fishermen are not restricted to a grid and go where they think the fish are. But coastwide, an overall 11% drop in WPUE was posted for the 2018 season. That’s more than double what the standarized, grid-based survey showed.
This year for the first time, IPHC looked at WPUE for fixed hooks separate from snap-on gear in the commercial fleet.
In Southeast Alaska, longlines with fixed-hooks caught 12% less than last year while longlines with snap gear caught 5% more on a WPUE basis. But in nearby B.C., both types of longline gear performed poorly compared to last year’s WPUE, but only slightly worse: 2% down for fixed hooks and 5% down for snap gear.
In the central Gulf, fixed gear’s WPUE was 8% down from last year, while snap gear was the same as last year. In the Western Gulf, however, both fixed and snap gear’s WPUE declined by 29% and 22% respectively from last year, the worst performance of all areas.
WPUE for Bering Sea fleets dropped for those using fixed hooks (by 6%) while the WPUE for snap gear in the same area rose 17%.
WPUE was measured separately for tribal and non-tribal boats in Washington, Oregon, and California. Non-tribal WPUE dropped 15% from last year, while tribal boats rose 44% higher WPUE than last year.
These details may seem more confusing than helpful, but it is precisely that level of detail that will be used to support a range of catch limits, given the characteristics of the area’s fleets, for 2019.
IPHC’s survey team also monitored the numbers of fish caught of NPUE (in addition to the weight per skate), for another look at what was available in this year’s ocean.
In each of the regions except 4B, the numbers were down. The worst region was 2 with a 15% decline in NPUE from last year. The other three regions (Region 3, 4, and 4B -- 4B is the Aleutians and often considered almost a separate stock because trends are seen only there) showed declines in single digits, for a coastwide average of 7% down from 2017.
IPHC’s scientists then presented the results of their modeling of the data, using an approach similar to that used by meteorologists predicting where a hurricane will land -- an ensemble of models that gives a more realistic idea of uncertainty, which is a stronger basis for risk assessment.
The process of determining catch limits, which the IPHC will do in January, is all about gauging risk against return.
This year’s catch limit decision table showed different levels of fishing intensity across the top (from no fishing to the highest in 50 years), and what the impact would be on the 1) the stock trend, 2) how close the stock may come to alarm reference points, and 3) at what risk it will put future catches. The resulting matrix shows the odds stakeholders -- both resource managers and business owners -- can expect at different levels of catch.
This year the IPHC is proposing two new rules -- to set fixed dates for the opening and closing of the season, and to consider extended openings in 2A to increase safety and reduce the derby-style aspect, one of the last remaining, of the fishery. Catch limits in that region would not be affected by the extended periods.
Proposals from the industry included changing the fishery in 2A to an IFQ -- individual fishing quota -- program, a concept that drew many questions from the commissioners, and will likely draw more comments from the industry at the annual meeting.
IPHC’s annual meeting will be held at the Empress Hotel in Victoria, B.C. from Jan. 25-Feb. 1, 2019. Catch limits, season dates, and recommendations for new or revised regulations for 2019 will be announced on Feb. 1.
All of the reports from the IPHC’s Interim meeting can be found here
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