Federal Court of Appeal quashes construction approvals for Trans Mountain

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Legal experts say Trudeau Govt flubbed ‘duty to consult’ BC indigenous communities over Trans Mountain Expansion
Posted by Markham Hislop | Sep 4, 2018 | Markham on Energy

Today’s column will examine the “duty to consult” issue, while tomorrow’s will address environmental impacts of marine shipping
Last week, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley was angry about the Federal Court of Appeal’s decision to quash federal approval of the Trans Mountain Expansion project and blamed Justin Trudeau’s government. Is the Prime Minister to blame? Yes and no, say Energi News experts: while the issues are complex and some of the processes (e.g. indigenous consultation) not as clear as they might be, the feds also have to accept responsibility for what could be a nine to 12 month construction delay.

The court overturned the approval because of two issues.
One, the National Energy Board’s refusal to consider the environmental impacts from project-related marine shipping (i.e. more oil tankers off the West Coast). The court did not dismiss the NEB’s report, it doesn’t have the power.

But cabinet approval is based upon consideration of its findings, which “were so flawed that the Governor in Council [federal cabinet] could not reasonably rely on the Board’s report.”

In other words, Trudeau and company didn’t have enough information – or the information was faulty – to properly arrive at a conclusion.

“The governor in council is required to respond to a report as defined by the terms of the legislation. The NEB report did not meet that standard,” because it excluded the impacts of marine shipping, Prof. Margot Young of UBC law school said in an interview.

Two, the government “acted in good faith and formed an appropriate plan for consultation,” but the last stage of consultation (Phase III took place Feb. to Nov. 2016) “fell well short of the minimum requirements imposed by the case law of the Supreme Court of Canada,” according to the decision.

That minimum requirement is responsive consultation, “a considered, meaningful two-way dialogue” that demonstrates the government both heard the indigenous communities’ grievances and took some form of action to remedy the problems.

Or, at the very least, explained why it couldn’t or wouldn’t “accommodate” the First Nations.

Instead, according to the court, “Canada’s representatives limited their mandate to listening to and recording the concerns of the Indigenous applicants and then transmitting those concerns to the decision-makers,” who then did nothing with the information.

Stenography is not dialogue or consultation, is the essential message here.

Prof. Nigel Bankes, chair of Natural Resources Law at the University of Calgary, says one of two options would reasonably be expected to happen if meaningful consultation had taken place.

“One, additional terms and conditions, or changes in existing terms and conditions, or direction back to the NEB to reconsider on the basis of what the crown had heard. Two, a good set of reasons why none of the above occurred. Neither happened, so it’s clearly a shortcoming on the part of the Crown,” he said in an interview.

The bit about case law is important, says Prof. James Coleman of the Dedman School of Law, Southern Methodist University: “No one really knows what kind of consultation is required and it’s a difficult task.”

There are no commonly accepted guidelines, no handbook for the government’s consultation team. Just past rulings by the Supreme Court of Canada, which lawyers comb through for clues about what the courts think constitutes meaningful consultation.

“The court was clearly looking for someone from the government who could walk into the room, listen to First Nation concerns, and then say, ‘Okay, we can change the project this way or that way.’ Unfortunately, that’s often not the way the federal government works,” said Coleman in an interview.

“What the court is asking for is something that governments typically aren’t very good at.”

Young points out that the court also disagreed with the government’s argument that it could not impose additional conditions on Kinder Morgan or modify any of the existing 157 conditions.

“The court quite properly said, ‘No, that’s wrong, you can move to a different position,’ That’s what makes consultation meaningful, being willing to make the problems less extreme or to accommodate them in some way,” she said.
“Canada failed in Phase III to engage, dialogue meaningfully and grapple with the real concerns of the Indigenous applicants so as to explore possible accommodation of those concerns,” wrote Justice Eleanor Dawson, who penned the unanimous decision. “The duty to consult was not adequately discharged.”

Who is responsible for the failure?

“All of the issues on the duty to consult, according to the court, are in mid to late-2016, when the Trudeau government was in place and they had the guidance from the Northern Gateway decision on what the minimum legal requirements are and they still didn’t manage to meet the legal requirements,” Prof. Dwight Newman of the University of Saskatchewan law school told Ian Burn of The Lawyer’s Daily on Thursday.

“Maybe [the government] can make the argument they didn’t know what was actually expected of them, but from a government that would purport to be going above and beyond [on Indigenous issues] it’s very surprising that they failed to meet the minimum legal requirements.”

Young agrees. She says the Trudeau Government has missed many opportunities to “walk the talk” when it comes to indigenous reconciliation.
“I’m not surprised that this consultation failed. It’s a large bureaucracy and there was a huge political imperative to get the project moving,” she said.

“And the response to the requirements of consulting with indigenous people is arduous and subtle. It needs to be much more in sync with the pace of that kind of consultative conversation that indigenous peoples need to have than what the federal bureaucrats want to have.”

Bankes assigns blame to both the government and the lack of clarity around duty to consult:

“I’d say a bit of both. By necessity it’s a relatively complex exercise,” he said in an interview.

“But the courts had given significant guidance in previous cases and I guess what the Federal Court of Appeal is saying here is, ‘You didn’t do what we told you to do, you were still too superficial.'”

Coleman is the only expert not willing to pin blame on the Trudeau Government.

“It can happen to any government. My personal view is that it’s difficult to predict these things sometimes, so I personally wouldn’t be that harsh,” he said.

Coleman thinks Canada’s reputation has already suffered additional damage with domestic and international investors as a result of the court’s decision.

What is clear is that Ottawa has to remedy the deficiencies identified by the court, which Bankes thinks could take nine months to a year. And that assumes Ottawa gets it right the second time around.

If the bureaucrats conducting the consultations didn’t learn from the Federal Court of Appeal’s 2016 dismissal of the Northern Gateway pipeline project for inadequate consultation, who’s to say they’ll do better this time?

Justin Trudeau, that’s who. Saying repeatedly in public that Trans Mountain Expansion will be built is good, but not good enough. The Prime Minister must personally ensure this file is handled properly and is expedited as much as possible.

https://energi.news/markham-on-ener...us-communities-over-trans-mountain-expansion/
 
This characterisation of the climate change movement as some kind of socialist conspiracy is all the right wing can fall back on. That and outright mis-information which is debunked by the science.

The right wing have no science, ignore the science out there, and even ignore the evidence right before their eyes of ever higher record temperatures all over the globe, especially up north, and including right here in Canada.

Perhaps some of them are so paranoid they believe the numbers being put out by Environment Canada, and the record fires in BC, and the heat deaths in Montreal are all "fake news" put out by socialist infiltrators. LOL

The fact that the science conclusions and the reports from other countries are all the same escapes them, and they have no other option than to try and attack the messengers and make the conspiracy even larger to encompass the entire scientific and academic community.

This Saturday (8th) hundreds and thousands of people all over the world are gathering in hundreds of cities to urge the communities of the world to act, and act now, to avert the worst of climate change. All the ignorant right wing will do is call them all socialist (and communists!) with some sort of sinister agenda! What a joke!!

https://peoplesclimate.org/rise/?source=tagged&referrer=group-nrdc

If I were to tell you that when we tick over to the year 2000 that the world was going to end, then it didn’t. I lose credibility.

If I told you in the 70’s that we were going to freeze to death in the next couple decades, and we didn’t. I’d lose credibility.

If I told you that the polar caps would be gone by 2014 and they were still there, one is even bigger. I lose credibility.

I can keep going and going and going with the absolute lies that you guys seem to keep lapping up. The ever present hysteria and doomsday tales you seem to love. The ability for you to be able to look down your nose at fellow citizens and humans, I feel, makes you giddy with delight.

The projections have ALWAYS been wrong. The models are ALWAYS wrong. Your cult is so gullible it takes local anecdotal evidence of increasing human population and sucks up the propaganda because IT MAKES YOU FEEL SUPERIOR.

Sorry for the caps, but sheesh.

Why wasn’t any opposition science allowed at the Paris accord???? I’ll tell you why, because this is POLITICAL. They don’t want an honest debate. They sure as hell don’t fund any scientists that go against the pre ordained results they want to see.

If after all this time, after all the fails that climate “scientists” have given us, you still BELIEVE, like this **** is a religion or something, then we really can’t have an honest discussion.

I’m a skeptic by nature, but give me the real deal and I’m happy to swing either way. This climate movement, as far as I can see, is flawed to the bone and if you don’t have reservations, your not paying attention. Either that, or your just looking for an opportunity to look down your nose at people.
 
It's a shame they must have stopped learning Canadian history in school after I left. Perhaps it was all the budget cuts that did it.


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Short history of the Northwest Passage
1497 first attempt to find it and turned back by ice.
1610 Hudson Bay discovered but could go no further.
1845 Franklin froze and all hands lost.
1903 first passage but it took 3 years and a long ride (drift) on the ice.
2007 to the present ice free passage each year in the late summer.

You would think someone that was just a little bit of curious would figure out something was up.
 
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Well ya. And don't forget, some of our forum favourites have always insisted on the "precautionary principle" and many followers here gobbled it up. Now sport fishing faces the same idea. Once the ball gets rolling on this type of decision making its hard to stop. Look at them go now!
Birdie - it is a bizarre assumption IMHO - that by merely acknowledging what policies, regulations and commitments the feds and DFO have to operate under - posters on this forum then have the power to force DFO to do anything - esp their jobs. As friggen if...
 
posters on this forum then have the power to force DFO to do anything - esp their jobs. As friggen if...

Oh I think their is lots of people on this forum that have in the past been very influential in having DFO opening fisheries.

Their has also many on her that demanded DFO to close fisheries and invoke the precautionary principal. Someone them even feel like they shot them selves in the foot because DFO kept thoes area closes even after they made escarpment goals and changed th goal post a few times.

Tho if your talking broad based over arcing policy’s coming out of Ottawa yeah peoople here has nothing to do with most of that ********.
 
Oh I think their is lots of people on this forum that have in the past been very influential in having DFO opening fisheries.

Their has also many on her that demanded DFO to close fisheries and invoke the precautionary principal. Someone them even feel like they shot them selves in the foot because DFO kept thoes area closes even after they made escarpment goals and changed th goal post a few times.

Tho if your talking broad based over arcing policy’s coming out of Ottawa yeah peoople here has nothing to do with most of that ********.
none of that happened by merely posting on this forum, WMY.
 
none of that happened by merely posting on this forum, WMY.

Haha fair enough but the sentiments echoed here by people are the same as echoed in other enviorments and consultation processes.

I also think tho in person consultation tho end up with mob rule. Or the laud miniority winnng.

Anyways as far as DFO is concerned I think it’s funny when it comes to tax policy people are smart enough to blaim the government cabinet members and not revenue Canada.

But when it comes to fishery policy people blaim DFO and not the government cabinet members of the day. Aka the liberals
 
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but not Harper and his con men legacy. Interesting...

Sure blaim them all you want but I find blaiming pervious governments just play into the current governments agenda to do
Nothing. Why at an end of an election cycle are the libs finally acting on the fisheries act...the libs are in charge anything that DFO does they are complicit in it.

Harper botched the NEB process but the liberal government reviewed and approved it still.

Then they bought...the fiancé minster is pretty right wing tho

I think it’s pretty funny tho I think we have seen the liberal government go from a Center left party to a Center right party.

I think they will do well next elections n given the crazy leaders the cons and ndp have put up.
 
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It's a shame they must have stopped learning Canadian history in school after I left. Perhaps it was all the budget cuts that did it.


added:
Short history of the Northwest Passage
1497 first attempt to find it and turned back by ice.
1610 Hudson Bay discovered but could go no further.
1845 Franklin froze and all hands lost.
1903 first passage but it took 3 years and a long ride (drift) on the ice.
2007 to the present ice free passage each year in the late summer.

You would think someone that was just a little bit of curious would figure out something was up.

Lol.
 
Andrew Coyne: Court ruling was a win for rule of law and therefore a win for Trans Mountain
After this decision, pipeline opponents cannot say their concerns have been ignored; whatever moral high ground they might once have claimed has been lost

Andrew Coyne

September 5, 2018
8:43 PM EDT
Since last week’s Federal Court of Appeal decision halting construction on the Trans Mountain pipeline project, the federal government has been inundated with unsolicited advice on what to do next.

The proposed responses have ranged from the uninformed (invoke the notwithstanding clause, which simply does not apply) to the unhelpful (appeal the decision, which would delay the project by months or years, with no assurance of a different outcome) to the undefined (pass a law limiting its implications in some way, which might or might not be helpful but would itself be subject to judicial review).

The prime minister at first derided such “legislative tricks” Wednesday but later suggested he was keeping all options open. And yet the most promising response remains the one he first appeared to favour: follow the course the court prescribed.

For as much as the decision was a victory for the Aboriginal and environmental groups who had filed suit challenging the cabinet’s 2016 decision to approve the project, and the National Energy Board report on which it was based, it was mostly a victory for the rule of law.

As such it may prove to be a victory for the pipeline itself, the gravest threat to which remains not the processes set out in law for accommodating the concerns of those it would potentially affect, but the willingness of some of those opposed to defy the law to derail its progress. After this decision, the latter can no longer say their concerns have been ignored; whatever moral high ground they might once have claimed has been lost. By constraining the government to act within the law, the court may also have constrained its critics.

It is the rule of law to which everyone, on all sides, should be committed. The reason it was right to adhere to the National Energy Board and cabinet decisions to this point was not out of faith in the infallibility of either, but because that’s the process. The court’s decision, though it overturned theirs, is part of the same process, and deserves the same respect, regardless of whether it was the decision one might have preferred.

Indeed, I have not seen much in the way of serious criticism of the court’s reasoning, only of its conclusions; the objection seems not to be that the decision was wrong, but that it was inconvenient. Perhaps it was. But that is not the business of the courts. Their business is to apply the law.

Those, such as Alberta’s Conservative opposition leader, Jason Kenney, who fume that the court ignored the economic impact of its ruling, are essentially calling for their own form of judicial activism: the tailoring of legal judgments to suit particular social objectives, rather than in strict conformity with the law.

Albertans, in particular, have every right to feel besieged

The law says, and the court found, that the NEB was obliged to take into account the environmental impact of the project, not only on land but at sea — notably on a type of killer whale native to the region. That the NEB failed to do so, and that cabinet accepted its report regardless, the court held, is in violation of the law.

Likewise, a series of landmark Supreme Court judgments going back to Haida Nation in 2004 have established the Crown’s constitutional duty to engage in meaningful consultation with Aboriginal groups whose title and rights could be affected by a project. What counts as “meaningful” consultation is certainly open to interpretation, but in fact the jurisprudence has interpreted it in fairly precise terms, as more than merely taking note of Aboriginal concerns but responding to them, and accommodating them so far as is reasonable. There is no evidence that the court was freelancing here, or “moving the goalposts,” as it has been accused of doing.

This is not, after all, a wholly unfamiliar concept. It is a form of property right. Centuries of common law have upheld the principle that property may not be expropriated, except by due process of law and with payment of just compensation. The equivalent with regard to Aboriginal title and rights is the duty to consult.

Like other rights, this right is not absolute. First Nations do not have a right, the courts have found, to veto projects in the public interest, any more than other group of Canadians do. But they do have, like other Canadians, the right to have their interests taken into account. Their consent is not required, but consultation is — though in raising concerns, they, no less than the Crown, are obliged to act reasonably and in good faith.

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Whatever moral high ground Trans Mountain pipeline opponents might once have claimed has been lost. Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press
That this latest decision has upheld this mutual obligation — upheld the law — with regard to Trans Mountain is evidence, not that it is no longer possible to build pipelines here, but that pipelines must be built according to the law. The court did not rule the project should be cancelled, whatever the gloom of the project’s supporters or the jubilance of its opponents. Neither did it insist that the process start over again from scratch.

Rather, it ordered that the NEB include within its assessment the marine impacts it had improperly left out, and that the government engage in further consultations with Aboriginal groups to the extent needed to properly fulfill its obligation. Each will no doubt delay the project further. Neither is a death sentence.

I realize there is a larger context here, beyond this one decision. After Northern Gateway, after Energy East, with even Keystone XL not a done deal, Albertans, in particular, have every right to feel besieged. The challenge in the longer term will be to find a process that is simpler, quicker and more final, that gives due weight to the concerns of all sides without projects being tied up in endless legal and procedural delays.

But I repeat: it is in the rule of law that Trans Mountain’s safety lies. In losing the battle, it may have won the war.
 
Little Canadian history for you.

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Au contraire, of course climate change is settled science.

It is right wing conspiracy theorists and nut bars that deny the science. It is they that are dangerous, because they are placing everyone's life and livelihood at risk.

Of course Co2 is not a pollutant. But it does cause the greenhouse effect which is another thing entirely. It is physics not chemistry!

You are talking rubbish when you talk about the Hawaii volcano. They do not emit anything like the quantity of Co2 you are implying.

The science is here. The Forbes article show just how tiny the Co2 from eruptions is compared to that emitted by humans.

https://newrepublic.com/article/148542/kilaueas-impact-climate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#7f711dab5cbf

https://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm

The oil resource "development and be damned" lobby are the bullies, and people worldwide have recognised that. Divestment from fossil fuel investments is now a growing movement, with many Universities and endowments pulling their funds and Ireland has become the first country to start to pull all funds.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...lds-first-country-to-divest-from-fossil-fuels

"This is not the beginning of the end for oil, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning", to paraphrase my countryman
 
Little Canadian history for you.

Prior to big oil. Who do you want to blame for this and why?
  • World's Worst Iceberg Accident - April 15, 1912. The unsinkable Titanic collided with an iceberg 700 km southeast of Newfoundland, causing the death of 1,500 people and making headlines around the world.


I've seen some bizarre arguments from climate deniers before, but never seen the Titanic used as evidence there is no climate change! The titanic wasn't a weather event, and there is some speculation the calm winds contributed to the accident. Most of the other shipwrecks you cite as "evidence" wouldnt occur today in modern ships with modern navigation aids either. Your arguments on climate change are just as nonsensical as the footline on every one of your posts.
 
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