A hike up there would be depressing to see since I knew what it was like before and what it meant to the 4x4 community. There are no places like this on the south island for people that have interests in off road fun. So many lakes and hikes were available to the public without access for off road vehicles but that wasn't good enough for some. Closed gates are a part of our communities these days and because of that I don't own a bush truck anymore, I own a boat now. Just too bad that some groups can't accept what they have and always have to point fingers at other groups that aren't doing what they think is right. My time in the bush is always spent respectfully, always carry more out than I take in. I have a bag in the back of my SUV now that is full of lucky cans from various places around the island that I find and clean up. If only there was a place that people with an interest in burning gas and driving on dirt could go and not be shut out because some other group thinks that it's bad we could all be happy. Harbourview Rd was in my opinion the last place on the south island that this happened and was ruined by other peoples dumb kids.