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Big Green Machine
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Thanks Matt for your effort, the folks in the Valley need to be aware that decimating that run will have a negative impact on everyone, not just the fishing sectors, but the businesses all the way down to Joe Schmoe.
albernifisher
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Great letter Matt, I look forward to seeing it in the paper
Islandgirl
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Great Letter..
I hope the people of Port Alberni stand behind this one...yell scream and stand outside the DFO office.
Poaching is poaching if you take more than your limit , I don't care what the color of your skin is!
I hope the people of Port Alberni stand behind this one...yell scream and stand outside the DFO office.
Poaching is poaching if you take more than your limit , I don't care what the color of your skin is!
+ 2 well done. I hope DFO will listen to you.
searun
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Well stated Matt. Now let's get all the facts and go from there. There is an SFAC meeting being organized (anyone can attend and say what they want), and contrary to the conspiracy theorists on this site we will get the facts and certainly have opportunity to explore what exactly went wrong and ensure steps are taken so it doesn't happen again...much like the close monitoring of the Gill Net Fleet that happened this season - that was a result of changes made from what we learned from last season's commercial gill net overfishing fiasco.
As for Lorne's always informed and positive comments, all I have to say is consider the source...ready, shoot, aim. Sorry man, get the facts then decide what is the best way to deal with what happened...we can't change the past, but we can certainly change how the future plays out once we fully understand exactly what took place. We all have our theories, but in reality they are probably 90 degrees off base.
As for Lorne's always informed and positive comments, all I have to say is consider the source...ready, shoot, aim. Sorry man, get the facts then decide what is the best way to deal with what happened...we can't change the past, but we can certainly change how the future plays out once we fully understand exactly what took place. We all have our theories, but in reality they are probably 90 degrees off base.
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pwport
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Searun, can you post on this site or PM me more details about the SFAC meeting - date, time, location, as I would be interested in attending (even as simply an observer & stakeholder as a recreational fisherman). Thanks,
Paul
gearjammer
Member
An excellent letter Iron Noggin, hopefully a few politicians will read it and rattle some chains in DFO.
GJ
GJ
sir-vivor
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I am in Richmond but if I can get the time off , I will also attend if you could let me know !
IronNoggin
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Today's Article in the AV Times:
Tsu-ma-uss fishery worries fishermen
14 Sep 2012 Alberni Valley Times JULIE BERTRAND Jbertrand@avtimes.net
Last week’s First Nations chinook fishery has some sports fishermen in the Alberni Valley worried that too much chinook salmon was harvested.
On Sept. 4, Fisheries and Oceans Canada allowed a limited two-hour fishery opening, during which Tseshaht First Nation and Hupacasath First Nation caught 9,700 fish in the harbour and in the Somass River.
In an interview last week, DFO South Coast area director Andrew Thomson said that the high number of fish caught might indicate there is more fish in the river than what DFO originally thought. In a pre-season forecast, DFO estimated the chinook run size at 34,000 salmon. For conservation purposes, the ministry set a target number of 57.2 million eggs to be laid in the Somass River. For this to happen, DFO determined that only 10,000 fish could be harvested by all fishery sectors. However, according to a Somass River bulletin sent on Sept. 7, it was revealed that close to 23,000 fish had been harvested.
Alberni Valley Enhancement Association salmon hatchery volunteer Jake Leyenaar is among those fishermen crying foul.
“There are a lot of disgruntled folks in the system right now,” he said. “It cannot be an open, free-for-all fishery, when you have a small [run size] like that. If it keeps on going the way it is, somewhere along the way we’re going to have to pay the piper.”
However, Leyenaar cautions anglers to keep their cool, since he said the harvested salmon stock cannot be replaced by pointing fingers.
Meanwhile, Thomson said DFO maintains the higher-thanexpected harvest numbers may indicate there were more fish in the river than what the pre-season forecast suggested. However, the ministry will not know for sure until the end of the season after employees take a look at final numbers.
“In the meantime, we still don’t have a conservation concern for that stock,” he said. “It’s largely an enhancement-based stock, and we feel we can meet the need for the hatchery. That’s our current viewpoint.”
Hupacasath First Nation chief councillor Steven Tatoosh agrees with Thomson and DFO. He said that last week’s fishery opening was not only the shortest in his lifetime, but also certain areas were closed that had never been closed before.
“In my opinion, DFO’s pre-season forecast was wrong for the year. There’s plenty of fish in the river,” Tatoosh said.
And on it goes...
Nog
Tsu-ma-uss fishery worries fishermen
14 Sep 2012 Alberni Valley Times JULIE BERTRAND Jbertrand@avtimes.net
Last week’s First Nations chinook fishery has some sports fishermen in the Alberni Valley worried that too much chinook salmon was harvested.
On Sept. 4, Fisheries and Oceans Canada allowed a limited two-hour fishery opening, during which Tseshaht First Nation and Hupacasath First Nation caught 9,700 fish in the harbour and in the Somass River.
In an interview last week, DFO South Coast area director Andrew Thomson said that the high number of fish caught might indicate there is more fish in the river than what DFO originally thought. In a pre-season forecast, DFO estimated the chinook run size at 34,000 salmon. For conservation purposes, the ministry set a target number of 57.2 million eggs to be laid in the Somass River. For this to happen, DFO determined that only 10,000 fish could be harvested by all fishery sectors. However, according to a Somass River bulletin sent on Sept. 7, it was revealed that close to 23,000 fish had been harvested.
Alberni Valley Enhancement Association salmon hatchery volunteer Jake Leyenaar is among those fishermen crying foul.
“There are a lot of disgruntled folks in the system right now,” he said. “It cannot be an open, free-for-all fishery, when you have a small [run size] like that. If it keeps on going the way it is, somewhere along the way we’re going to have to pay the piper.”
However, Leyenaar cautions anglers to keep their cool, since he said the harvested salmon stock cannot be replaced by pointing fingers.
Meanwhile, Thomson said DFO maintains the higher-thanexpected harvest numbers may indicate there were more fish in the river than what the pre-season forecast suggested. However, the ministry will not know for sure until the end of the season after employees take a look at final numbers.
“In the meantime, we still don’t have a conservation concern for that stock,” he said. “It’s largely an enhancement-based stock, and we feel we can meet the need for the hatchery. That’s our current viewpoint.”
Hupacasath First Nation chief councillor Steven Tatoosh agrees with Thomson and DFO. He said that last week’s fishery opening was not only the shortest in his lifetime, but also certain areas were closed that had never been closed before.
“In my opinion, DFO’s pre-season forecast was wrong for the year. There’s plenty of fish in the river,” Tatoosh said.
And on it goes...
Nog
the fog ducker
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Last week’s First Nations chinook fishery has some sports fishermen in the Alberni Valley " worried "
that too much chinook salmon was harvested.
lol , more like fricken flat out furious...... unreal....
fd
that too much chinook salmon was harvested.
lol , more like fricken flat out furious...... unreal....
fd
lorneparker1
Banned
For arguments sake, who the Frick cares if there are more fish in the river. That's a good thing. It doesn't mean kill em all!
Islandgirl
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Yup
Just a joke and Dfo has no balls to prosecute these fishers for taking more than their legal limit..
Fricking sad day for society as a whole and the fish.
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albernifisher
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Matt, did they publish your letter yet???
So if there is no conservation concern for the Somass Chinook stocks why is there still a one mile conservation corridor that restricts the recreational fishery alone the VI west coast? This was put in place to protect these same fish. Why was it not rescinded if they are so confident they have excess fish this year?
