DFO Announces further SRKW Restrictions
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ship happens
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That's 100 percent valid however let me reiterate that. I'm staying that this coast needs it own minister. Not provincallly funded. Just my opinion. Like Alaska, how they have their own commissioner. By saying grow shoulders, yes 100 percent. That means more people who are actually involved. Funding. Last I checked DFO said there was an average of 350k tidal licence holders. Let's get some funding, let's charge 50 bucks for a salmon stamp that goes into management, let's charge a percent on commercial TAC at the dock like Alaska does, which goes into management and enhancement. As of right now we are most definetly out numbered.
Let's base our TAC yearly even for sport. Count things, manage things, enhance things, know what we have.
As of right now we don't have a large group with funding and these letters and this survey is not the answer. If that's all the input we have, it won't be enough. Seriously what else can we do?
@SpringVelocity your 100 percent right if more people don't patcicpate then it's over. My question is participate in what?
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Brando
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ship happens
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This one is pretty interesting. Put that in perspective and see how it unfolds.
Highlight:
In 2018, marine sectors in Canada generated 298,333 jobs and contributed $36.1 billion in GDP
Some of you are in there. I sure as **** am
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Highlight:
In 2018, marine sectors in Canada generated 298,333 jobs and contributed $36.1 billion in GDP
Some of you are in there. I sure as **** am
Canada's oceans and the economic contribution of marine sectors
This article provides estimates of the economic contribution of marine sectors in Canada in 2014 to 2018 and describes some of the environmental challenges faced by these sectors.
Canada and the Provinces are put together fundamentally different than the US and the States, SH - from the US independence onwards. By-and-large in the USA - the States have the regulatory authority for fisheries, wharves and the like. Not so in Canada.
In Canada, the Constitution Act generates the authority for the other Acts and the earlier BNA Act details what authority the Provinces get. They only get to regulate FW fisheries under a MOU with the feds. Anything else is "ultra vires", as was laid out in the Morton Case 2019:
2009 BCSC 136 (CanLII) | Morton v. British Columbia (Agriculture and Lands) | CanLII
Access all information related to judgment Morton v. British Columbia (Agriculture and Lands), 2009 BCSC 136 (CanLII) on CanLII.
www.canlii.org
That also includes public wharves and the like in addition to fisheries. Even the salmon stamp has a story.
wildmanyeah
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Why it’s important to fill out the surevey and We will be up against potentially a few thousand answers that look like this. Refusing to fill it out because you don’t agree with it no one will care no one will see that.
What they will see is 100s of responses that look like this
www.raincoast.org
What they will see is 100s of responses that look like this
Guide government action for Southern Resident killer whale recovery before Feb 19 | Raincoast
The federal government is accepting your input through a survey, for this year’s recovery and threat reduction measures for Southern Resident killer whales.
www.raincoast.org
Question 2. Which one of these proposed fishing closures options in Swiftsure Bank do you support?
- Option B
- Yes.
- The expanded closures at Swiftsure Bank, including Area 21-0, 121-1 and part of 121-2, are important foraging areas that must be included. Additional considerations should be given to areas north of Swiftsure into Barkley Sound.
wildmanyeah
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I really hope you all fill it out
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gone fishin
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done and I agree it is important to fill it out BUT
It is DFO strategy to demonstrate people either have no desire to see reduced restrictions OR wish to see increased restrictions.
Is there any mechanism that will allow the result of this survey to be made public once completed.
It seems to my failing memory we went thru pretty much the same survey last year
SpringVelocity
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Why it’s important to fill out the surevey and We will be up against potentially a few thousand answers that look like this. Refusing to fill it out because you don’t agree with it no one will care no one will see that.
What they will see is 100s of responses that look like this
Guide government action for Southern Resident killer whale recovery before Feb 19 | Raincoast
The federal government is accepting your input through a survey, for this year’s recovery and threat reduction measures for Southern Resident killer whales.
Question 2. Which one of these proposed fishing closures options in Swiftsure Bank do you support?
Should additional areas be considered, or do you have further comments regarding this option?
- Option B
- Yes.
- The expanded closures at Swiftsure Bank, including Area 21-0, 121-1 and part of 121-2, are important foraging areas that must be included. Additional considerations should be given to areas north of Swiftsure into Barkley Sound.
What a joke. That was great because it tells us openly what we knew all along.
Survey is being driven by the NGO lobby. Just look at Pender Island. It has the most reporting with whale encounters, and most heavily restricted. Now why is that? Maybe ask the leader of Raincoast?
ship happens
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What we need is a large BC angling alliance group. Keep the sportfishing title out of it. This group needs to be heavily funded. The money has to come from the industry and go back into the industry. Like the provincial fish and game society does it. Has to be press releases that speak from the side of the angling community province wide. All we have now is small groups who try and help manage certain areas. We need a group that does exactly what raincoast is doing, except from the other side. Right now, it's one sided.
SpringVelocity
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Some highlights on what Raincoast is telling it's members to fill out:
SpringVelocity
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SpringVelocity
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gone fishin
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I would be curious about how you got this information. Are you a Rainforest member?
I am not a member of Rainforest, nor do I follow the opinions of this group.
Looking forward to you providing some proof that Rainforest are instructing their members to fill out the survey as you have stated
or is it simply conjecture on your part?
SpringVelocity
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G
gone fishin
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I opened the last 2 post from Wildman on the subject and in fact that is how I found the link so I could fill out the survey as he suggested.
Please help me, I can't find the link where Wildman showed how Rainforest are instructing their member on how to fill out the survey.
Perhaps Wildman or you can help me find it as it as perhaps I am mistaken when I asked you if your post was fact or conjecture
Thanks for the help.
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We will be up against potentially a few thousand answers that look like this.- Option B
- Yes.
- The expanded closures at Swiftsure Bank, including Area 21-0, 121-1 and part of 121-2, are important foraging areas that must be included. Additional considerations should be given to areas north of Swiftsure into Barkley Sound.
I really hope you all fill it out
SpringVelocity
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Reposting link to survey
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gone fishin
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Thanks
I think got it straight now
conjecture right
No proof Rainforest are directing their member to filling out the survey ??
Let me know when you find that direct instruction as I do not follow Rainforest.
No need to post the complete survey with how you think others might,
Happy to see we are directing our members of this forum to fill out the survey.
SpringVelocity
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What are you talking about? You keep taking runs at me but none of what you written makes any sense. So bizarre.
ship happens
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What's the purpose of posting all of that screen shot data?
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