WTB something slightly lighter than a commander 30 and with outboards.

Just get a custom build done and hopefully it will be a forever boat….. let the wife design/pick the cuddy arrangements etc you will be golden. You can set it up for fishing amd she can set it up for cruising and getaways etc. Make the plunge you can afford it I’ve seen your chicken man posts on Instagram so your doing well.;)
I might have to slang a lot of chicken while also being the most expensive builder in the country.
 
Hi RC, Pacific Boat brokers on the island have a pretty cool boat that might interest you. 34' tollycraft sports sedan. twin yanmars with straight shafts, genset, kicker, 12' wide.
 
Man that is tempting. I just don't think I'd make a change unless it was something with outboards. I have a fast comfortable diesel right now.
 
Good price on that Boston whaler I just posted, sell the trailer for 10k, and have a 50mph boat until you find your dream boat
Nah I have a working boat now. If nothing happens this year then so be it. Just means another 20k in maintenance on this thing lol
 
Yesterday I had a lake all to myself, willing trout along one shoreline, and a beautiful calm day.
So I went to the other end and didn't do as well.
 
Yesterday I had a lake all to myself, willing trout along one shoreline, and a beautiful calm day.
So I went to the other end and didn't do as well.
Are you saying this is a greener grass scenario? Maybe a fence in there somewhere?
 
Are you saying this is a greener grass scenario? Maybe a fence in there somewhere?
I still think you should just pod your commander. You have the right layout and it's already set up for you, you just need outboards. I think if you are willing to spend an extra 100k on a new boat, then I think just pod your commander for that 100k. Think about it like this, if there was a podded commander for sale right now for 100k more than your boat, would you want it? If the answer is yes then I think you should just go for it. A podded commander 30 is the unicorn that you are looking for.
 
I still think you should just pod your commander. You have the right layout and it's already set up for you, you just need outboards. I think if you are willing to spend an extra 100k on a new boat, then I think just pod your commander for that 100k. Think about it like this, if there was a podded commander for sale right now for 100k more than your boat, would you want it? If the answer is yes then I think you should just go for it. A podded commander 30 is the unicorn that you are looking for.
There is one haha. It's actually only $189k. I just don't like any of the custom work he's done and the engines have 500 hours.
 
There is one haha. It's actually only $189k. I just don't like any of the custom work he's done and the engines have 500 hours.
I thought this one sold...
 
You should just run your boat the way it is. It’s perfect as long as you do your maintenance

This is really the true answer. You're going to get an occasional year where you get a large maintenance bill, then you'll be fine for a few years, then you'll get a big bill again. Just average it out over time.

A couple ways to make it feel better - they say the annual expenditure of your boat will be 10% of the brand-new-boat purchase price. Not the used boat price. Assume your boat was $250,000 new so budget $25,000 per year. This should cover insurance, slip, maintenance, fuel for a 100 hour per season normal user. If you're paying less than 10% of new boat purchase price you're winning.

Another way to make it more bearable is look at it this way;

Assume 100 hours cruising diesel fuel consumption at 12 US GPH for diesel. That's 45L/hr, or 4500L per season. Diesel is $1.50 per L for $6750 per season.

Assume 100 hours cruising gasoline fuel consumption at 24 US GPH for gasoline. That's 90L/hr or 9000L per season. Mid grade marine gasoline is $1.75 per L for $15,750.00 per season.

With the diesel engines you are saving $9000.00 in fuel per 100 hour cruising season.

Now take a look at a repower project - assume your repower is $100,000 net after selling your existing drives and motors. Assume you can make 10% with that money in a simple investment like an index fund or ETF that you don't need to manage. That $100,000 that you put into your motors is a $10,000 per year opportunity cost.

By sticking with existing motors and drives you are saving $19000.00 per 100 hour year, and you don't have a $100,000 capital expenditure that you have to pay back.

Keep existing, do some more preventative maintenance. Save $19,000.00 per year less the occasional increased maintenance. Keep the amazing range the diesel engines give you, the hot water you get, etc and when it comes time to sell the boat you won't be priced to recover the $100,000 you spent on the repower.
 
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