Supreme Court Ruling - Native vs Non Native

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When the Supreme Court of Canada on Thursday tossed his leave to appeal application with three words — “Dismissed without costs” — Phil Eidsvik joked that at last he might have to get a proper job.

For two decades, ever since the introduction to the salmon fishery on British Columbia’s Fraser River of something called the Aboriginal Fisheries Strategy, or AFS, this splendid man and his fellow non-native fishermen have been fighting a losing battle for fairness.

Cut to the short strokes, the issue is this: For years, the non-native fishermen (an ethnically diverse group, by the way) obediently tied up their boats while aboriginals were allowed to catch fish for their so-called Food, Social and Ceremonial (FSC) fishery.

Everyone on the dock knew the FSC fishery was a sham, because by expert reckoning even the courts acknowledge more than 90 per cent of the fish was feeding neither aboriginal families nor cultural ritual, but rather was being illegally sold.

But senior officials at the federal fisheries department (then and now and forever more known as the DFO though its name has changed) called off its fishery officers and ordered them not to charge aboriginal poachers — not to enforce the law evenly, in other words.

In 2001-02, Eidsvik et al. challenged the scheme by holding a token “protest fishery,” the goal to force DFO to charge everyone, and, when predictably it didn’t, to argue that their rights to equal treatment under the law were being breached.

“We always expect to lose,” he said.

Yet Eidsvek is fundamentally an optimist, and a few words in every previous decision — the courts would rule against him but usually find real merit in the argument — would set his heart to racing.

This was particularly true at the B.C. Court of Appeal, where, he wrote me with trademark humour afterwards, the court “had a much better grasp of the principles at stake than the courts below despite only having this matter in front of them for just a couple of hours… Strange that despite our long string of losses for reasons which are blatantly wrong, I have more respect for the courts today than I did when we started this 20 years ago — I must be psychologically damaged or awed by pomp and circumstance.”

As recently as last week, he sent me a cheerful email, excited because the clerk in Ottawa who phoned to tell him when the SCC decision was coming down “sounded upbeat, like he was bringing me good news.” Even as he wrote that, he tried to quash the hope that rose in his throat: “I tend to read too much into signs,” he said. “He (the clerk) probably does not even know what the ruling is, and the good news is that a ruling is due.”

Now, near as he can tell, Eidsvek and his fellow fishermen are out of options.

They’ve launched orderly protests — this is called civil disobedience, when groups the government regards with approval do it.

For these actions, they were charged and convicted of Fisheries Act offences.

They appealed those convictions to B.C.’s high court and finally to the Supreme Court, losing every time though virtually every court but the last one has agreed with them that the “DFO has permitted and is permitting what amounts to a commercial fishery by aboriginal groups and persons” and with experts who say that this has been a “significant contributing factor” to the province’s so-called “missing” salmon.

They have testified in courts, told their stories to anyone who would listen, and often with Eidsvik — who is not a lawyer but could pass for one now, albeit as an unusually humble specimen — in the lead, submitted smart, respectful and cogent legal briefs.

Some of their number, the indefatigable Eidsvik key among them, even sat in and suffered the interminable hearings of the Cohen Commission of Inquiry in Vancouver, the first full-blown federal inquiry into the missing fish.

This commission produced its final report in the fall of last year, spending $26-million in the process and barely acknowledging the failures of the DFO to enforce the rules evenly.

Like the non-natives in Caledonia, Ont., who to this day find themselves being arrested by the Ontario Provincial Police while attempting to walk on the former housing development that was the site of the often violent aboriginal occupation of 2006 when native lawlessness was tolerated, B.C.’s non-native fishermen, and the rule of law, are firmly under the bus.

The real test for the courts was and is whether race-based policing and enforcement, on land or at sea, brings the administration of justice into disrepute. It did, and it does, but as Eidsvik says, “No one wants to bell the cat,” certainly not government, and now, we know, not the courts.

The Supreme Court case that got all the attention was the so-called “niqab” case, involving the Muslim woman who wanted to wear her face veil while testifying.

The end of Eidsvik’s long battle deserved attention, and he Canadians’ thanks. What he and the rest of them got, from their unique vantage point flat on their backs on the road, was the sight of the wheels of the bus passing over them again, one last time.

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Original source article: Christie Blatchford: Supreme Court refuses to hear appeal of B.C.’s non-native salmon fishermen


Read more: http://www.canada.com/Supreme+Court...on+fishermen/7729087/story.html#ixzz2FiVzKTc6
 
Don't even get me started on natives and their special "rights"... I could go on for hours...one thing that pisses me off more than almost any other.
 
X2 SerengetiGuide!! I am personally fed up with the "special treatment" policies our Government takes with concern to
the FN in this country. The time has more than come for this to end!
 
Good read about a good deed. Me thinks we will see this situation change to the order of 'fairness for all' in our lifetimes.
 
Having worked and schemed will Phil for years, I have the utmost respect for his diligence and sacrifice.
The government bureaucracy dependent upon this 'system' is too big to fail.
The decisions produced as a result of Phil and the BC Fisheries Survival Coalition make interesting reading, because there is no logical explanation for all Canadians are equal, just some are more equal than the rest.
I will be raising a glass to Phil tonight.

Gong Show
 
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I personally think they took the wrong tact - trying to defend a very obvious contravention and applying that to equality is a big leap.

If they challenge the DFO enforcement principles they might get further.

Not a lawyer but this issue needs to be advanced even though the proverbial wind is currently out of their sails
 
I say we give all band members two million bucks n then put bars n chevy dealers all around the reserves.A good thin they don'tlike work or they might take up guiding.
 
I say we give all band members two million bucks n then put bars n chevy dealers all around the reserves.A good thin they don'tlike work or they might take up guiding.



yer a bit of a dumbfuck eh?
 
One country = one set of rules... I cant see that happening in this lifetime or maybe the next few lifetimes. Once you live your life on hand outs it's not gonna change anytime soon. It's like giving your kids everything they ask for, they just don't appreciate anything and just expect more and more. It would take a huge pay out and an end to all the give aways but we all know that the vote grabbers don't have the 15 lb balls that it would take to introduce and achieve such a think...
The 90% overage should be deducted from the overall allowable take by holding back $ from the bands and maybe they would start policing themselves if it hurt all of their wallets at once.
Just my 2 cents (tax included)
 
yer a bit of a dumbfuck eh?

Just telling it how i see it,taled to a friend who has a prawn licence n gets a second to stack with from a native band.They have had 25 deck hands from that band and only one has worked out .He was 50 years old,but to be fair most young people are the same way and just want a good paycheck without working for it.
 
Just telling it how i see it,taled to a friend who has a prawn licence n gets a second to stack with from a native band.They have had 25 deck hands from that band and only one has worked out .He was 50 years old,but to be fair most young people are the same way and just want a good paycheck without working for it.

no, you definitely where not telling how you see it, i think you were pointing out what a narrow minded rascist which you are....you obviously have not been on the other side of the fence,, ever suffered any in-equalities in your lifetime because of what others have portrayed you as, before even giving you chance? me thinks not. grade three must have been the toughest five years of your life.
 
no, you definitely where not telling how you see it, i think you were pointing out what a narrow minded rascist which you are....you obviously have not been on the other side of the fence,, ever suffered any in-equalities in your lifetime because of what others have portrayed you as, before even giving you chance? me thinks not. grade three must have been the toughest five years of your life.

And you expect to gain respect by taking this tact - classy.

While I agree the initial post was out in left field some things are better left untouched. To each their own.
 
The one Country one set of rules argument is so shortsighted, the issue is way more complex and has taken many years and hundreds of lawyers to work out, and yet some people still keep
coming back to this line of reasoning. Lobby your MP if you want to do something productive because taking a complex issue and simplfying it and over generalizing as we have already seen in the previous posts will only make you look like a half wit.
 
many years and hundreds of lawyers to work out

They have the same desire to solve the problem as Jenny Craig does to see people lose weight. It's a big business machine the longer it takes the better off they are.
 
They have the same desire to solve the problem as Jenny Craig does to see people lose weight. It's a big business machine the longer it takes the better off they are.
And all lawyers will continue to argue all possible points and exhaust all possible arguments until ALL wallets are empty. They are the LAST ones who want a resolution.
 
And all lawyers will continue to argue all possible points and exhaust all possible arguments until ALL wallets are empty. They are the LAST ones who want a resolution.

Absolutely, you are wise beyond your years young man.;) Sad but so true. We got lawyers....just remember the Cohen Commission. The only one's that won were the lawyers. Nothing good for fish came from that exercise.
 
Absolutely, you are wise beyond your years young man.;) Sad but so true. We got lawyers....just remember the Cohen Commission. The only one's that won were the lawyers. Nothing good for fish came from that exercise.
What's the difference between a lawyer and a carp?


One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder and the other is a fish
 
And you expect to gain respect by taking this tact - classy.

While I agree the initial post was out in left field some things are better left untouched. To each their own.


definitely never trying to gain respect, don't assume anything of me. left field? no , rascist stereotyping yes. did you and bonk go to same school? to each their own sure. cuz ya can't fix stupid!
 
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