Dungeness in Area 14
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Duffer
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I haven’t tried in awhile, also I haven’t tried Roe I usually use chicken backs. Crabbing hasn’t been great off the spit for a few yrs now but feel free to try around thereBest place for Dungeness in area 14?? If you don’t mind sharing.. Not new to fishing, but new to crabbing.
Also using roe for bait. Does roe typically produce?
For bait I've been using dogfish when I catch them, found it to produce nearly as good as chicken, but way cheaper to get.Best place for Dungeness in area 14?? If you don’t mind sharing.
Also using roe for bait. Does roe typically produce?
RiverBoy
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also illegal
Explain.
Bryan Allen
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Not illegal as long as you dont exceed daily limit. And as far as the section that makes it illegal to waste fish.... I dont expect any F.O. would waste his time on that.
Found that section -> "(3) No person who is food fishing for personal use or fishing for recreational or sport purposes shall waste any fish that is suitable for human consumption." Would really depend on the enforcement officers definition of waste I guess.. Good to know.
Seems akin to catching herring and using it as lingcod bait lol. Is all my fishing quasi illegal??
RiverBoy
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if you are using a salmon head or tail that’s one thing. hacking up a live dogfish to throw in your trap is not legal.
I've been trying to find the section concerning what you're talking about. Care to enlighten me?
RiverBoy
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Dude....you quoted it already. see your previous post. don’t know what else to say. good luck m8
use or expend carelessly, extravagantly, or to no purpose. - dictionary definition of waste. So I was asking if you had more information, as I am not wasting the dogfish that I use for crab bait.
So far the clearest reference I've found is in the reminders section of the Sport Fishing Guide:
Says "When sport fishing, you may not waste any fish that’s suitable for human consumption. You’re not allowed to use any finfish suitable for consumption as bait in trap fishing. However, you are allowed to use fish offal, herring, mackerel, northern anchovy and Pacific sardine" - although I can't find reference to this in the Sport Fishing Regulations.
Which indicates larger dogfish could be used, ie. over 60 cm, as they aren't fit for human consumption due to mercury.
Again, if you have knowledge of where to find concise black and white information, please, put my poor brain at rest.
Bryan Allen
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What
What you will most likely get from DFO, is a reciting of the regs that will be "By the book" BUTTTTTT sometimes its better to talk to a FO . Ask him/her if they would charge someone for using dogfish for bait-- I expect you will get a different answer. Now lets take a closer look at this : "When sport fishing, you may not waste any fish that’s suitable for human consumption. You’re not allowed to use any finfish suitable for consumption as bait in trap fishing. Got a definition of what is suitable ??? Is a nice large salmon head "suitable " ? Well, if you are a Nufie or FN, a fish head stew is to die for. But to most fishermen its crab bait or compost. And what about hali or salmon carcasses ??? Same issue !! Sometimes it doesnt pay to turn the dirt over, because you may not like what you find !!!!
Hey-- not done with the dogfish issue !!!
What you will most likely get from DFO, is a reciting of the regs that will be "By the book" BUTTTTTT sometimes its better to talk to a FO . Ask him/her if they would charge someone for using dogfish for bait-- I expect you will get a different answer. Now lets take a closer look at this : "When sport fishing, you may not waste any fish that’s suitable for human consumption. You’re not allowed to use any finfish suitable for consumption as bait in trap fishing. Got a definition of what is suitable ??? Is a nice large salmon head "suitable " ? Well, if you are a Nufie or FN, a fish head stew is to die for. But to most fishermen its crab bait or compost. And what about hali or salmon carcasses ??? Same issue !! Sometimes it doesnt pay to turn the dirt over, because you may not like what you find !!!! I am in 100% agreement with you, and I'm willing to bet that the response I do get will be insufficient for the clarification I desire. Debatable words in that regulation are "waste", as already indicated, "suitable", as you so clearly explained. I will let you know what I hear back. Frankly, at this point, I see no reason to change my ways.What
Hey-- not done with the dogfish issue !!!
happy hooker
Crew Member
I think maybe the “spirit” of the reg is that its ok to kill a fish to eat and use the carcass for trap bait, not ok to kill a fish solely to use as trap bait.
So when fishing a herring only use the head and tail then and consume the rest?
happy hooker
Crew Member
Bait:
- Only fish offal, herring, mackerel, northern anchovy and Pacific sardine may be used as bait. No other finfish may be used as bait
Shellfish harvesting information | Pacific Region | Fisheries and Oceans Canada
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Bryan Allen
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OH Jeeze-- all you guys that are throwing a frame or head into a trap are going to jail !! Nevermind-- I am done with this sillyness. This is all caused by COVID-19 .... Right ???
spring fever
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At least they aren't giving away all the Dungy hotspots!!LOL
Herring are a designated "bait fish" As Riverboy says.... big difference between using herring or Salmon frames and trim for bait and Catching dogfish or small rockfish to use as trap bait...
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