the fog ducker
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Seen the video of AJ's device , Looks Awesome ,
waiting as well ??
FD
waiting as well ??
FD
Pilchards
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getbent
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I will hook you up LS while we are in Bamfield...gonna pull some Jugheads as well...check out the vid of these teaser heads, pretty wild looking.
Cheers,
getbent
IronNoggin
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Very Very Interesting!!
I had actually heard a few rumors about this development some time ago. Great to see this innovative design was more than rumor alright!
While I generally don't run bait very often, this may well change my mind in that regard! The action in the video looks DEADLY to me, and if the fish concur, methinks you have found a WINNER!
I'd be right interested in getting my mitts on a couple. Please be sure to post and let us know when they become available.
Going to HAVE to give them a spin methinks!
Cheers,
Nog
Sharphooks
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I'm waiting with baited breath along with everyone else for those new pilchard rigs--would be nice to see some pics of the unit.
In the meantime, this is what I've been using for the last few years--the bigger ones hold pilchards no problem.
http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab30/sharphooks/rhysdavis.jpg
The way to get really sexy action is to always carry bamboo skewers with you. Run them under the gill plate and down out through the peduncle of the tail and clip off the excess. Makes for action that just won't quit.
Brined up pilchard cut-plugs work but they don't seem to hold up to long term being dragged through the water
In the meantime, this is what I've been using for the last few years--the bigger ones hold pilchards no problem.
http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab30/sharphooks/rhysdavis.jpg
The way to get really sexy action is to always carry bamboo skewers with you. Run them under the gill plate and down out through the peduncle of the tail and clip off the excess. Makes for action that just won't quit.
Brined up pilchard cut-plugs work but they don't seem to hold up to long term being dragged through the water
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Hit em Hard
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Can pilchards be purchased frozen like herring or anchovies or do you need to catch them yourself? I don't recall ever seeing them frozen except possible in a grocery store for human consumption and they really did not look that great. Like Nog I don't often fish bait however after checking out the videos of the Jugheads I just might give them a try.
H.E.H.
H.E.H.
Finished Business
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Note taken, nice lil' trick there SH!
Sharphooks
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Speaking of Pilchards... maybe you guys know about Magic Thread?
Well, pilchards and Magic Thread go together like horse and carriage:
Here's a pic of a Kwikfish wrapped off with a pilchard fillet---deadly on river springs. Deadly when dragged on a downrigger above a dummy flasher.
This Kwikfish was in the water for all of half a minute before it got inhaled. When I dropped it in there was an oil slick blossoming off behind it like the Exxon Valdez on Bligh Reef. The species was Sardinella aurita, harvested in Indonesia. Different body shape then S. Sagax, the pilchard we have in our neighborhood.
There was an outfit out of Florida mis-labelling them as herring and selling them out on the West Coast in tray packs. Didn't last long when word got out what they were selling. I was sorry to see them fold up their tent because not many guys put up pilchard tray packs
http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab30/sharphooks/quilleutespringer2-1.jpg
Also, Magic Thread and Pilchard fillets, cut into the size and shape of a Loony, wrapped onto each of the two blades of a Hildebrandt Spinner:
It can be a deadly combo. I have caught springs using this contraption. I know a guy (he'll kill me if he reads this) who caught back to back 40 lb springs on a Hildebrandt, one blade wrapped with a herring fillet, the other wrapped with a pilchard fillet.
This summer? I'm going to wrap some of my Tomic plugs with pilchard fillets. It doesn't take much to produce a scent trail. Also, I know guides who swear that a pilchard or herring fillet wrap on an artificial lure catches springs not so much because of the added scent trail but because it slows down the action. If it's all about pumping up confidence, sounds good to me.....
Magic Thread is also handy for wrapping around the snouts of whole herring and whole pilchards if you want to rig them whole on tandem hooks without using a Rhys Davis hood and tow them above a dummy flasher.
Loose lips skunk ships.
Well, pilchards and Magic Thread go together like horse and carriage:
Here's a pic of a Kwikfish wrapped off with a pilchard fillet---deadly on river springs. Deadly when dragged on a downrigger above a dummy flasher.
This Kwikfish was in the water for all of half a minute before it got inhaled. When I dropped it in there was an oil slick blossoming off behind it like the Exxon Valdez on Bligh Reef. The species was Sardinella aurita, harvested in Indonesia. Different body shape then S. Sagax, the pilchard we have in our neighborhood.
There was an outfit out of Florida mis-labelling them as herring and selling them out on the West Coast in tray packs. Didn't last long when word got out what they were selling. I was sorry to see them fold up their tent because not many guys put up pilchard tray packs
http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab30/sharphooks/quilleutespringer2-1.jpg
Also, Magic Thread and Pilchard fillets, cut into the size and shape of a Loony, wrapped onto each of the two blades of a Hildebrandt Spinner:
It can be a deadly combo. I have caught springs using this contraption. I know a guy (he'll kill me if he reads this) who caught back to back 40 lb springs on a Hildebrandt, one blade wrapped with a herring fillet, the other wrapped with a pilchard fillet.
This summer? I'm going to wrap some of my Tomic plugs with pilchard fillets. It doesn't take much to produce a scent trail. Also, I know guides who swear that a pilchard or herring fillet wrap on an artificial lure catches springs not so much because of the added scent trail but because it slows down the action. If it's all about pumping up confidence, sounds good to me.....
Magic Thread is also handy for wrapping around the snouts of whole herring and whole pilchards if you want to rig them whole on tandem hooks without using a Rhys Davis hood and tow them above a dummy flasher.
Loose lips skunk ships.
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kanuckle head
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Looks like that guy needs to pinch them triple barbs
As for sent, Charlie White had luck with hoochies dipped in bilge water............lol
kanuckle head
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Pretty much the dominant bait presence off WCVI these days. I'm going to run off a batch of plugs over the winter to imitate these little guys. Here's a few pix I'll be basing the airbrush paint selection on:
Might also help in terms of selecting which plugs to purchase next time you're in the mood.
Given today's available selection of paints, methinks I can likely get very very close!
Letcha know as it goes...
Cheers,
Nog
Picked up my Pilchard, match the hatch imitations today & cant wait to try it. Will have it matched with a flasher using a longer & stronger leader............fricken expensive @ 22 dollas ea for the 6 1/2 in long, so loosing it is not an option
And like all my lures I will doctor it
http://www.livetargetlures.com/products/saltwater/blueback_herring-swim.php
Give me your opinion
Kh
Quick rigging question for the large plugs and spoons. I have been tying directly to my main line-25 lb...should I be using a leader at all? Say 30 lb. flororcarbon? I learned to do the mainline thing a few years back for Washington USA
Ocean and sound (5 inch plugs) but when I come to Ukee in August I use the bigger gear...just wondering. Many
Thanks!
Ocean and sound (5 inch plugs) but when I come to Ukee in August I use the bigger gear...just wondering. Many
Thanks!
Sharphooks
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You'll probably get lots of different answers about rigging up for the August Uke show. My experience---the word "leader shy" isn't part of the drill. Once you belly up to the bar for a 6 or 7 inch plug or spoon, you don't want to break it off on a fish. I use straight 40, sometimes 50. I catch enough fish to be happy and generally go home with the same gear I showed up with.
I also fish bait with minimum 40. I tried 50 and that didn't seem to put them off. It's more a question of utility then being loaded for bear---when I fish alone and the fishing is good, I'm shaking way more fish back over the side then I am administering a wood shampoo. Straight 40 allows you to shake, re-tie, then drop back in without worry.
Last August I took a friend to Uke. Rig up with straight 40, I told him. 30 at absolute minimum. So of course he shows up on my boat with 25 and our first day on the water, he lost 4 really nice Tomic plugs, one after another. I didn't say a word until he started eying my plugs. No way, I said. Oh please, he whined. So he ties on my money plug and lost that one in five minutes.
My opinion about Florocarbon? It has a time and a place but Uke ain't one of them.
I also fish bait with minimum 40. I tried 50 and that didn't seem to put them off. It's more a question of utility then being loaded for bear---when I fish alone and the fishing is good, I'm shaking way more fish back over the side then I am administering a wood shampoo. Straight 40 allows you to shake, re-tie, then drop back in without worry.
Last August I took a friend to Uke. Rig up with straight 40, I told him. 30 at absolute minimum. So of course he shows up on my boat with 25 and our first day on the water, he lost 4 really nice Tomic plugs, one after another. I didn't say a word until he started eying my plugs. No way, I said. Oh please, he whined. So he ties on my money plug and lost that one in five minutes.
My opinion about Florocarbon? It has a time and a place but Uke ain't one of them.
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So straight 40 mainline on the reel or leader? I used 25 last year with no leader and did loose one nice tomic 545 Pilchard last year...I was ok on the plugs and other spoons but the loss was a run under the boat with a double-headr cluster. Biggest last year was 34 pounds, and I would like to try and hit a 40 this year...who wouldn't!
Sharphooks
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Yes, straight, no chaser (unless you have a spoon with twisting action that twists your line; then you might consider an in-line swivel which would then equate to a leader).
But I wouldn't drop down in line strength. No need to. Plugs--no problem with line twist so tie direct from reel to ring (with knot bumped up to the face of the plug per Tomic rigging instructions)
But I wouldn't drop down in line strength. No need to. Plugs--no problem with line twist so tie direct from reel to ring (with knot bumped up to the face of the plug per Tomic rigging instructions)
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kanuckle head
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I musta been a commercial fisherman in my previous life, definitely not a sporty
I usually run 80lb as leader. the only problem was tying a clinch knot to the the swivel
Offshore & mimic the Pilchard on a Blue Fox Matrix spoon with holographic finish @ 7" long. Like all lures I doctor um, this unit is attached to the hook by a split ring. I disconnect the hook I replace it with an open eye 9/0 sywash single barb less SS Mustad that I crimp a a barrel swivel, that is now attached to the spit ring.
So when I get a smaller fish that i wanna release grabbing the 80lb leader is easier to handle & when to unhook the fish, garbing the spoon & have a wild HO do its death roll and as I hold the spoon the stress point will not fail the spit ring, causing a released fish wit a hook in its mouth. plus gaff release on a larger hook is better achieved
All this to have one goal. the more time spent on lines not fishing the less percentage on hitting...............THE ONE !!!
Kh
I usually run 80lb as leader. the only problem was tying a clinch knot to the the swivel
Offshore & mimic the Pilchard on a Blue Fox Matrix spoon with holographic finish @ 7" long. Like all lures I doctor um, this unit is attached to the hook by a split ring. I disconnect the hook I replace it with an open eye 9/0 sywash single barb less SS Mustad that I crimp a a barrel swivel, that is now attached to the spit ring.
So when I get a smaller fish that i wanna release grabbing the 80lb leader is easier to handle & when to unhook the fish, garbing the spoon & have a wild HO do its death roll and as I hold the spoon the stress point will not fail the spit ring, causing a released fish wit a hook in its mouth. plus gaff release on a larger hook is better achieved
All this to have one goal. the more time spent on lines not fishing the less percentage on hitting...............THE ONE !!!
Kh
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kanuckle head
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here is my contraption lined up with my Philippine rigging's that caught me a Wahoo & months B4 hooked a 40lb'r out on the west coast
Big spoons = big prey
I have found that running larger diameter line tracks the lure better easier to handle & that notion of having the fight near the end being the most occurring time when to loose the fish, close to the boat give me confidence in either landing or releasing
Most times I fish by myself offshore, running 2 lines & steering is trying enough let alone landing a fish & not stopping
Charlie415
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Salmon aint too bad either!
