WCVI Offshore

IronNoggin

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Just in from the West Coast, and thought I'd run up a report of sorts...

We had a one-day commercial troll opening last Sunday - plugs only. Given the rather spotty presence of larger springs of late, we really had to scratch our heads over just where to look. One day doesn't leave much in the way of opportunity to run around looking, so you really want to land on the "right spot"!!

I had quite a few reports in over the past month, and had a few occasions to have a look around myself. From what I could put together, there were quite a few larger fish being seen up-Island (Kyuquot, Nootka, Esperanza) a tad earlier in the season, and suspected these would soon show up off Ukee & Tofu... Then a couple of calls from the Ladz down in Rupert - they now were seeing bigger fish in decent numbers. Huh? Reports from the Ukee area weren't noting much of the same, but it certainly seemed those fish were wandering through? Hmmmmm.....

Looking back over the records of previous years, we saw something somewhat similar before the trend of land-fast close to shore Bonanza style fishing for the Biggies became so common over the past 3 or 4 years. Back then, the fish appeared to run "outside", well offshore and close to maximum striking distance for the majority of the sport fleet. Was the same occurring this year?? We decided we'd take the chance it was, and set off for a boo...

Late Saturday afternoon found us near 30 miles off the beach. There, the sounder was literally going nuts! Stacks of bait like nothing I've seen this year! Herring in some spots, pilchards in others, stacked from the floor right through to the ceiling!! And mixed in and around them, the signs of many many predators!! Looks GOOD!!

Tough to sleep that night, the anticipation was downright overwhelming...
Up and readying the gear well before daylight as a consequence.

The next morning slipped up on us over a flat sea, schools of bait fining on the surface as far as the eye could see.
Dropped the gear (7" plugs in our case) to an instantaneous response!! Hungry springs of mixed sizes, ranging from feeders right up through the larger migrating spawners! SWEET! :cool:

Over the course of the day, we found enough biters to keep us smiling. The odd coho hit and was released, indicating that they also must be there in numbers for them to tag such large offerings. A little lull occurred mid-afternoon, and then...
Right around 4:30pm, a massive wave of larger fish rolled in. From then to dark we struggled to keep up, backs and arms long out of practice screaming with the effort.

As we pulled the gear the final time at dark, reports came in from the other boats scattered up and down the coast. It seems that we had indeed found the Hot Spot, as most of those unfortunately did not find the numbers nor sizes we had. Damn Lucky!

From this it seems to me the returning fish are skirting the outside edges of the Bank in our area. Not to hard to understand given the HUGE bait presence out there! Bit of a jog for a sports rig, but indeed it can be done when the weather cooperates...

Since, some of these larger fish have been observed moving closer to the beach, with catches out of both Tofino and Ukee reflecting that. Certainly hoping this trend continues! It did just that back in the days we've witnessed this particular scenario before, so there certainly is reason to believe we'll find an increasingly large number of the Biggies nearer shore over the next little while...

Ran the sport rig out the the Big Bank yesterday - more action than anyone could hope for, mixed bag of coho (some over 10 pounds already!), halibut and springs. We didn't manage to find any of the Big Boys, but a couple of our Buddies did, again indicating they may well be thinking of wandering closer...

So, the larger fish do indeed exist. They are passing by daily, and showing signs of wandering well withing our striking range. Methinks the next little while is going to prove rather interesting out there, and suspect there will be some awfully HUGE Smiles for those lucky enough to get out there and play with them!! :D

Still have the odd spot left on the old Dance Card if anyone is interested. Might be the right time to give us a shout if you're leaning towards some REEL FUN on the Big Pond!!

Cheers!
Nog
 
Great report Nog! Thanks!

Heading over to Ukee tomorrow - can't wait! Environment Canada is forecasting 20-30 NW winds for the next few days - I am hoping they are wrong.
 
Interesting indeed about the 30 miles off fishing. What color was the water? Looking at the chlorophyll charts it shows that the levels are highish a long ways out. Maybe this provides a environment for the springs and feed to be that far out. One might find a tuna while fishing for springs out there. I understand it has happened.
 
Great report, I always enjoy reading the in-depth WCVI Nog reports and forecasts. Decent showing of big fish (50+) on the central coast for just over a week now. WCVI shouldn't be far behind.......
 
... What color was the water? Looking at the chlorophyll charts it shows that the levels are highish a long ways out. Maybe this provides a environment for the springs and feed to be that far out...

There was a significantly noticeable color change between the areas of the Shallow Spot we passed by and the outside edge. From nearshore out, the water was basically gin. Out at the 50 fathom edge, the water turned that nice greenish tinge that both bait and springs prefer. Sport fishing the Big Bank I could see the fish/gear down fairly deep on their way up. Offshore, you couldn't see them until they were right close to the surface. Very much something to what you are suggesting methinks...

As for tuna, they are still a long ways offshore. Visited with several buddies who are targetting on them, and the closest they have seen yet is ~ 75-80 miles out. "Spotty" that close was the word, buit as of yesterday reports had them scrambling - seems they are moving closer as well...

Cheers,
Nog
 
Thanks for the comeback nog. Interesting stuff! I too heard the tuna have been spotty for the commies but their out there and that's what counts.
 
Awesome report nog... reminds me of looking for those hot spots in years past.Absolutely, loved fishing for the smileys the most... sockeye cold be so cool with schools following the boat for hours... but springs were the highlights !!
 
NOG, I love your time and dedication to the science, craft and passion for fishing. Thank you for your educated and insightful posts. They are much appreciated.
BTW, Langara island has absolutely LIT UP in the last 2 weeks in terms of hogs! Not sure what it means, but I also know that rivers inlet has sucked for chinook but amazing for coho right now. (that should change very shortly)
 
Nog i heard the avg size was only 7 lbs out at the edge. Any truth? We were nearby yesterday and mature springs were few and far between. Had to cycle through countless fish to get teeners.
 
Nog i heard the avg size was only 7 lbs out at the edge. Any truth? We were nearby yesterday and mature springs were few and far between. Had to cycle through countless fish to get teeners.

We averaged WELL over 10 pounds dressed. Mix of smaller fish in the morning (brought the average down a tad), much better in the afternoon. Saw many approaching and over 30 pounds, and lost about a dozen pieces of gear to fish even with 80 pound leaders and rubber bumpers on each line. Have to be pretty damn big to pull that off!! :eek:

Kind of a strange observation for you: The larger fish were caught between 65 and 120 feet, then again down below 220 to 300 feet. The layer in between was loaded with smaller springs and coho. Seems the Big Boys were reluctant to mix with their smaller cousins for whatever reason. Those up top had empty bellies (Travelers I'd hazard a guess) while those down below were pretty much stuffed, obviously hanging out and actively feeding.

Cheers,
Nog
 
Thank you so much Matt. Stellar report as usual. Heading to Ukie in a week and will be looking to hit the big bank. Your reports just confirms my suspicions that they are not coming in yet. Clearly not the same numbers as the past couple of years so no pressure to move off the big bank closer in shore. Were you south by the rat's nose or further north? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

Fin
 
...Were you south by the rat's nose or further north?

No need for secrecy, it's a big ocean, and I don't mind sharing...

We were ~ 8 miles from the Rat's Nose. Further out (50 fathom edge) and west. I'd hazard a guess that if they are still sticking out there, anywhere from the Sawtooth up to the two big back-eddies west of that might find them again.

Good Luck!!

Cheers,
Nog
 
Thanks Matt. Weather permitting I'll mimic your run and try to give a report. Can't guarantee that it will be as properly detailed (nor as successful), but a report nonetheless.

thanks again.
 
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