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The PREDATOR'S PEN Date: September 3rd/2004.

An update of the local saltwater fishing scene for Vancouver To : Saltwater Angler

By: David Korsch (Predator Charters)
E-mail: davek@dccnet.com Web Site: www.predatorcharters.com
Phone: (604) 329 - 8642 Fax: (604) 886 - 1928


Hello Fellow Anglers

They Hit!!!!!

The morning of August 28th, a wall of Chinook arrived off the mouth of the Fraser River. They mainly seem to be "reds" in the 18 to 25 lb range, though there were a fair number of whites landed as well.

We started fishing quite late (about 9:25), and had nothing happen for about the first hour (there was a good bite earlier in the morning), then about 10:30 it went gangbusters. In the next 2.5 hours we hooked into 12 large Chinook, but only managed to land 3 of them.....don't ask......it was a general problem this morning....most guys were about 2/10. We were staying out all day, and we did get into three other fish in the afternoon (landing two of these), but that low slack tide (11:20am) was definitely the ticket.

It seemed that the bite was just starting to get going again before the evening high slack, but then it died. I am not sure if that is a proper assessment of what could have occurred since we wrestled our last fish away from a seal, and I think he may have been shadowing us after that. Whatever the case, we didn't get a bite during the next 1.5 hours, so we called it quits about 6:30. Our totals ended up 5 for 15 hooked which isn't great, but it does indicate there was a WHOLE bunch of fish out there (and most are still swimming).

Well......unfortunately that awesome day of fishing did turn out to be a bit of a one-day-wonder. I was afraid it would be something like that, but it did usher in the start of the fall's "trophy Chinook" fishery, as the subsequent days since Saturday have continued to produce large fish......actually larger fish than those in the main school, as several fish in the 25 to 35 lb range have now been hit.........just not the numbers that we saw on Saturday.

There is some very good news from all this as well. Almost 100% of the large Chinook that were caught on Saturday were males, and most of those were "reds". In addition, there was another good wave of "red" Chinook that migrated into the Fraser on August 15th (we all missed that one), and my friend who works on the Salmon Commission test boats mentioned that 90% of those were males as well. Since the large males always migrate upriver before the large females, this means that a huge amount of large "red" females are still going to arrive off the Fraser very shortly. Unfortunately, there is no way of predicting when they will arrive, but for those lucky enough to be there when they hit, the days will be VERY memorable.

Another bonus is that females tend to stage off a river's mouth longer than males, so we should get a few days of hot fishing when they arrive. These "red" Chinook hit the Fraser during August most years, so it seems as if everything is just a bit late this year....something to do with the extremely hot, dry early part of the summer I would think. The rains of the past week were surely the "bell" that rung to call them to the river, and I bet the females are not all that far behind the males.

The Salmon Commission test troller saw some decent Chinook action again on the afternoon of September 2nd near that low slack. About 3:00, they were near the T-10 buoy (trolling with Sockeye gear only), and they broke off 5 large Chinook in quick succession. The other test troller broke off several Chinook as well, so it seems their numbers may be on the increase again. Interestingly, they were getting fish as deep as 95 feet, while we were fishing the top 65 over the weekend. They may have moved deeper, which would make sense for "holding" fish.

Bait has taken the vast majority of the fish. Anchovies were the most popular choice, but they are a bit scarce, so some of us have been experimenting with medium whole herring. They also work just as well, and the bonus is that you can avoid 95% of those voracious grilse and large herring that are apt to attack your anchovies. Some guys have also done very well with Gypsy and Coyote spoons, but I cannot figure out how they keep the grilse off for more than 5 minutes. Hootchies should also work, and those that worked in the past at this time of year are: blood and bones, army truck, green/glow, and Sockeye hootchies.

After the "red" Chinook, we have a run of even larger "white" Chinook that hit the Fraser's mouth in September. The fish in this run usually provide recreational anglers with a few fish in to 50+ lb class each year. In past years, they have sometimes arrived roughly one month after the "reds", though it is possible that the rains will have called them in as well, and we could also have them show at anytime........things could get really "nuts" out there. The two waves of "red" males hit the Fraser on the mid-month new moon, and the recent full moon, so maybe one or both of those moon phases in September will signal the arrival of the "whites" if the rain didn't call them in. I guess only time will tell.

After the "whites" hit the Fraser, some of them (those released from the Capilano and further up in Indian Arm) move into Vancouver Harbour and begin to stage off the mouth of the Capilano. They usually begin to show off the Capilano by about mid-September, and early October typically provides some very hot, consistent fishing. This fishery continues until late October, but its finishing date is dependent on our fall rains. Last October we had that record rainfall about mid month, and the fishery ended about a week after that on the 24th or 25th. As long as we have a somewhat dry fall, this year we may see this fishery continue into early November since the runs seem to be arriving off the Fraser about 2 weeks later than normal.

At the present time, I have lots of openings over the next week or so, as most of my bookings in September were targeting the latter portion of the month for the Chinook fishery off the mouth of the Capilano. I am also beginning to get bookings in early October, but I still have lots of openings during these next two weeks. Those large fish will be hitting the Fraser at some point during this stretch of time, and providing exceptional fishing. As it stands right now, I have the following openings still available during the next week or two: Sept 5th (am, pm), Sept 6th (am, pm), Sept 7th (am), Sept 8th (pm), Sept 9th (am, pm), Sept 11th (pm), Sept 12th (am, pm), Sept 13th (pm), Sept 14th (am, pm), Sept 15th (am), Sept 16th (am, pm), and then no openings until after the 20th.

As always, feel free to pass this information along to any associates whom may appreciate the report. If you have any questions, or wish to book a charter, e-mail me davek@dccnet.com), or call me at (604) 329 - 8642.

Tight Lines,
David Korsch
Predator Charters
(604) 329 - 8642
davek@dccnet.com
www.predatorcharters.com

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Thanks for sharing, Dave. I packed up and headed to Squamish for the long weekend thinking that two of my good friends were meeting up with me on Sat pm. Late Sat am I was out scouting and found lrg #'s out @ Defense. fished for 1 hr caught 2 big springs 28,34 lbs.(released at side of boat). Cel phone rang one friend bailed and the other would be a day late. Went out mid morn Sun, same place and picked a nice 10 lb. coho of the shallows... moved a little deeper caught another nice 30 plus pounder that was also "released". Getting these large fish in the boat is HARD when going solo. This was done in less than 2 hrs. Cel phone rang again, my friend was comming up late afternoon. Pulled up the crab traps, filleted the coho went in to prepare dinner on the barbie, friend showed up, we pigged out, drank a couple wobbly-pops then he took off for home! go figure!. Fishing conditions for me were ideal, good weather, just three other boats in the area and lots of fish to be fished. So p.o'd. Sun. morning I packed up my gear, threw the boat on the trailer and came back home about $250 lighter (marina fee's, fuel etc.) and no fish. So the lesson here is; If any of you guy's out there that have a buddy with a boat and plan for over a month to go on an excursion with him/her and do this... DONT EXPECT THE PHONE TO RING SOON!. And those that own the boat GET A DEPOSIT IN GOOD FAITH and use it to buy beer later!

Good luck and greater fish'n.

Edited by - mr.dean on 09/07/2004 15:58:53
 
Thanks for the report Rodbreaker.

Have you noticed a population explosion of jellyfish in the strait this year? I've noticed a ton of them up by Gower/Camp Byng, more than I've ever seen before....
 
Tyee Hunter:

Medium herring cut-plugged.
Flasher colour did'nt seem to matter(3 springs hit 3 different colours). The Coho hit a chartruese coloured rig.
Springs caught hit @ 65 and 82ft. and were holding out in water as deep as 235-250ft.(between the hump and little island)mine came in from 90-150ft
Coho was caught on top of the shoal downrigger @ 35 or 42...can't remember wich one was set where but either/or.
Jellies were around but not as bad as the lower portions of the sound as of late.
GO GET'M!!!!!

English Bay Coho seem to have gone of their feed...Anyone catching?. If so on what?. Out yesterday trolled the hole damb tackle store... not a bite.. Whats going on?. Appeared to be million or so fish. The only thing that I did'nt try was surface buck-tails... getting late and the sun was sinking fast.

Good luck and greater fish'n.
 
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Tyee Hunter:


English Bay Coho seem to have gone of their feed...Anyone catching?. If so on what?. Out yesterday trolled the hole damb tackle store... not a bite.. Whats going on?. Appeared to be million or so fish. The only thing that I did'nt try was surface buck-tails... getting late and the sun was sinking fast.

Good luck and greater fish'n.

Went out on Saturday, with no luck either. I spent most of my time at the QA looking for springers before putting in an hour or so off Ambleside, but apparently a few coho were taking chovies at about 40 feet near the mouth of Cap. It's weird that the coho don't seem to be on the bite much this year. Last year I was snagging lots of them with white hootchies. Go figure.

Remember, it's called "fishing"! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 
Tyee hunter:
Are you going up?. If so let me know how you did.
Thanks.

Red Monster:
I think them Coho's are off their meds!.



Good luck and greater fish'n.

Edited by - mr.dean on 09/08/2004 23:59:51
 
Talked to Dave at Highwater: says things have picked up a lot for coho, especially on the Lord Stanley's side of the water. Here's hoping so for the weekend.

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
 
A friend of mine told me if you really want them, go out at dawn and stay out, when they start to feed, they start to feed, usualy for an hour... maybe 20 mins. but you just don't know WHEN... some time before the end of day. Seems like alot of work for a couple of small fish...Think I'll try for them springs this weekend... If the T10 is'nt working I'll head out to the middle(at least thats my thought for today).

Good luck and greater fish'n.
 
Mr. Dean: Yes, the dawn thing is often the way to go, especially at high slack. But like you said, it seem harsh for a few little fish, especially after all the great springs I caught on the island.

Hey, I also heard the T-10 was a good idea. I've never fished there, but thought I might try it, although it seems like a long run. What's the deal out there these days?

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
 
R.M,

Been land locked since Tues.
What I here is on one day off the next but when its hot its real hot.
Hey, youre boat on a trailer or slip?


Good luck and greater fish'n.
 
Mr. D

I have a great trailer setup, and just rebuilt the brakes.

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
 
R.M.

Macdonald beach would be the place to launch. Just a few miles to the mouth, a left turn and your there. Watch out for dead heads in the river. Ramp is a little tide finiky but not as bad as the one over at the planaterium.

Good luck and greater fish'n.
 
unfortunatly not<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> my dad couldnt get off work....so no way for me to get to the boat......cant wait to drive then ill be out asap hahaha

if i do make it some time soon ill post a report

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You can also launch at Steveston. 10$ launch fee and a nice run up the jetty past the steveston waterfront. bomb out to the end of the jetty and your right at Weather station Harry. Try anywhere out there.
 
Took a run to T-10 on Sunday: Great weather but not many fish biting. I think the springers have been moving around. There may have been better fishing at the QA.

I should plug in my VHF and listen for what's going on. Does anyone know what channel the guys fishing in area are likely to use? Mr. D?

I'm going out again on Saturday morning in search of the great red slabbies. Hope the rain lets up a bit.

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."
 
Major computer melt-down....
Rm: my radio is always on 16/09
I think most guides use the cell.
I'll be out Mon. am...anyone else?

P.S. Vessel name is "Group Therapy". That radio is a must have!.

Good luck and greater fish'n
 
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