Strait of Georgia Salmon Retention

[Whitebuck]

Same with any FN netting info after 2015 to the present day. Best to keep past openings where No one can see them.
Absolute ********

 

[searun]

Look no further than the data - no speculation required as to where Fraser Chinook are being removed. Here's the exploitation or harvest rate on one upper Fraser Stock - when we had data:


ER on Dome Ck (Upper Fraser)


Fishery ER


ISBM SBC Terminal (Fraser R) First Nations 41.2%

ISBM SBC JDF (Victoria) Sport 7.2%

ISBM Troll (S + N) South/North 6.4%

AABM North BC Troll 5.1%

ISBM SBC Terminal (Fraser R) Sport 3.3%

AABM WCVI Spring Troll 2.7%

ISBM GST (SOG) Sport 1.2%

AABM WCVI Sport 0.9%

ISBM SBC JST (unknown) Sport 0.1%

 

[Whitebuck]

As I have been saying for years....

 

[donnie d]

Look no further than the data - no speculation required as to where Fraser Chinook are being removed. Here's the exploitation or harvest rate on one upper Fraser Stock - when we had data:


ER on Dome Ck (Upper Fraser)


Fishery ER


ISBM SBC Terminal (Fraser R) First Nations 41.2%

ISBM SBC JDF (Victoria) Sport 7.2%

ISBM Troll (S + N) South/North 6.4%

AABM North BC Troll 5.1%

ISBM SBC Terminal (Fraser R) Sport 3.3%

AABM WCVI Spring Troll 2.7%

ISBM GST (SOG) Sport 1.2%

AABM WCVI Sport 0.9%

ISBM SBC JST (unknown) Sport 0.1%

For the uninformed, can you explain the acronyms AABM, ISBM. Thanks!

 

[wildmanyeah]

For the uninformed, can you explain the acronyms AABM, ISBM. Thanks!

ISBM = Individual Stock Based Management AABM= Aggregate Abundance Based Management. Here is an explanation:

The 2008 Pacific Salmon Treaty (PST) describes an Individual Stock Based Management (ISBM) fishery regime that is abundance-based and constrains to a numerical limit the total catch or the total adult equivalent mortality rate for specific stocks within a jurisdiction’s fisheries. ISBM management regimes apply to all Chinook salmon fisheries subject to the PST that are not AABM fisheries or terminal exclusion fisheries. Several fisheries within British Columbia (BC) are under ISBM fishery management and all PST fisheries south of the border between BC and Washington State are under ISBM fishery management.

Here is the URL for the entire doc:

www.psc.org/download/35/chinook-technical-committee/2125/tcchinook11-4.pdf

As you can see SEAK & BC get AABM fish, south of the BC border we get SOL as more WA/Northern Oregon fish are caught up north than we are allowed to take. Southern Oregon & CA fish tend to stay close to their home rivers.

What is not shown above are the SEAK AABM Chinook catches which are fairly equal to the NBC AABM catches.

See the picture:
http://wildfishconservancy.org/imag...ome2011journalchart.jpg/image_view_fullscreen

*The 1999 Pacific Salmon Treaty (PST) defined certain Aggregate Abundance Based Management
(AABM) and Individual Stock Based Management (ISBM) chinook fisheries in both Canada and the US.

Under the Treaty, there are two main Canadian AABM regions and fisheries for chinook:
• Northern BC - commercial troll catch in Statistical Areas 1-5 plus sport catch in Statistical
Areas 1 and 2
• WCVI - commercial troll catch in Statistical Areas 21, 23-27 and 121 to 127 plus sport
catch on the outside WCVI (Areas 25 to 27 between October 16 through June 30, and the
catch outside one nautical mile from July 1 through October 15 plus all the catch in Areas
21 to 24 between October 16 through July 31 and outside one nautical mile offshore from
August 1 to October 15)
Recreational catch inside the one nautical mile (Surf Line) and outside AABM time periods is
included in ISBM fishery catch.
1.3 ISBM fisheries also include fisheries that catch chinook salmon in BC regions that lie under PST
jurisdiction but lie outside areas governed by AABM fisheries, including FSC (Food, Social,
Ceremonial) catch and catch in WCVI Inside, Juan de Fuca Strait, Fraser River and other areas

 

[Peahead]

My guess as to why the nanaimo area doesn't have the chinook restrictions like the straight of Juan de fuca does in the spring/early summer is because majority of the returning Thompson river chinook migrate through the jdf straight during this time. I've been submitting heads to the salmon head recovery program for several years now and have received the percentages form DFO.

Just to point out that not everyone will know or remember the lower SOG had that slot/limit in the spring time for several years south of a line from north Valdes Is. to just east of Thrasher Rock in area 29-5 ( and 29-4) extending down to Active Pass. Then it changed to a 2 fish to a max size and extended to a much larger area to include everything south of a line across from north Valdes, over to the Fraser North Arm and everything to the US border. Then of course later last spring there was the infamous 50% cut to the daily limit of lower SOG Chinook (and 50% cut in possession limit) that extended to fall ( with the limit of one fish only - max size limit reg. however was dropped (min. 62cm as always)

So not same as JDF however some pretty substantial restrictions for years in Nanaimo area and south in lower SOG

 

[donnie d]

thanks for digging that out. Appreciate it!

donnie

 

[chevy guy]

Just think, none of this would be happening if the drum seiners would have been curtailed after the fish war like they were meant to be.
I think you guys better start taking up fly fishing cause it's all coming down for sporties real soon. It is the only sector they can control without a pushback. IMO.

 

[wildmanyeah]

Just think, none of this would be happening if the drum seiners would have been curtailed after the fish war like they were meant to be.
I think you guys better start taking up fly fishing cause it's all coming down for sporties real soon. It is the only sector they can control without a pushback. IMO.

That defeatist attitude and figure pointing will do nothing to serve our industry.

There are avenues that each sports fishermen can take that will help our cause, but they are not easy and they are not fun. Write letters to the fisheries minister and CC your local MLA, Donate to the gofundme page, Join organizations like SFAB, SFI, SVIAC ect.. Tell your fishing partners and friends that are less informed about the issue and headwinds our industry is facing.

 

[SpringVelocity]

That defeatist attitude and figure pointing will do nothing to serve our industry.

There are avenues that each sports fishermen can take that will help our cause, but they are not easy and they are not fun. Write letters to the fisheries minister and CC your local MLA, Donate to the gofundme page, Join organizations like SFAB, SFI, SVIAC ect.. Tell your fishing partners and friends that are less informed about the issue and headwinds our industry is facing.

Exactly.