cohochinook
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Jason Tonelli will be a guest on the Jill Bennett Show Sunday September 8th. He will be talking about Chinook salmon and media messaging around it. He's scheduled to appear at 8:15 a.m. on Sunday.
Listen to Jason Tonelli on CKNW Jill Bennett Show September 8th
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cohochinook
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Jason did a excellent job speaking on the issue and truth out there!
cohochinook
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I was able to get a call in on the open lines and talked about BC Salmon Restoration and Innovation Fund, which Minister Wilkinson touts as the recovery plan for the Upper Fraser Chinook. A proposal for a Fish Trap on the Harrison River which had the support of First Nations, was denied funding by this fund!
Thanks again Jason. Your efforts are appreciated.
Dont forget folks come Oct election. The scum thats in power now is doing nothing to create Sustainability in our Salmon runs. Is smearing his their work with bandaids and catering to those that drink the coolaid for Votes only.
Libs make it in again, kiss our salmon and opportunities goodbye.
Hats off to Jason
Dont forget folks come Oct election. The scum thats in power now is doing nothing to create Sustainability in our Salmon runs. Is smearing his their work with bandaids and catering to those that drink the coolaid for Votes only.
Libs make it in again, kiss our salmon and opportunities goodbye.
Hats off to Jason
cohochinook
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You can hear the interview with Jason Tonelli at the link below at the 29 minute mark:
https://omny.fm/shows/the-jill-bennett-show/isis-supporter-released-to-southern-interior-the-f
https://omny.fm/shows/the-jill-bennett-show/isis-supporter-released-to-southern-interior-the-f
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
I has said this on many social platforms and the push back I get is always the same. Harper ripped apart the environmental act and canned DFO biologists and I will never vote conservative again.
SpringVelocity
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And then the liberals promised to put all that back in last election but just left in all the gutted legislation so the the pipeline could go in easier. The parties are the same. Unfortunately there still is no real 3rd part contender so you have to pick who you hate the least.
The conservatives may be hard on environment but man I can't believe the liberals and what they have turned into. It is brutal.
The conservatives may be hard on environment but man I can't believe the liberals and what they have turned into. It is brutal.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Bon Chovy suppose to be on Global news tonight at 6 pm.
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Missed the evening news today. Anyone has a link to this interview?
I listened to Jason’s interview this morning. As always, he was very clear on the messaging and clearly spoke to the facts. With people coming back from summer vacation and the season slowing for us, we should be doing more public outreach and protest before the election to bring awareness to the general public.
wildmanyeah
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https://globalnews.ca/video/5875113/good-news-about-salmon-stocks-on-b-c-coast
Good news about salmon stocks on B.C. coast
SerengetiGuide
Well-Known Member
Then be prepared for another liberal government and no fishing opportunities. Silly decision
Well
The fact is that you Must be uneducated on how this mostly works....
I don’t discard the fact Harper stripped a bunch of the inner realm of DFO but there was lots of data and science to support a full
Chinook season in most southern waters.
The reality is that this decision was political in nature and optics.
I personally have the data to support a full chinook season in most areas in area 12 yet DFO figures it would optically look bad and got politically pushed into a corner with the FN
Reallocation played a huge part in all of this and that’s all the Liberal Government
Please educate us on how this mostly works. I don’t disagree on the fact that Wilkinson and co really ****** up this year with mixing their fishery management mandates and reconciliation stuff but I’m interested to understand how that would automatically make Harper’s policies and actions look better.
cohochinook
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I was part of a group that met with Minister Wilkinson on May 22nd to discuss Chinook closure, possible variances for an opening to retention of Hatchery fish and a recovery plan for upper Fraser stocks. I can go into a lot more detail but I'll cut right to the chase. Wilkinson said if we want an opening we have to get Fraser River First Nations approval. Clearly managing with science and data on this decision went out the window and it was pure political bargaining with Chinook salmon. That's why I will not be voting Liberal.
Justin and Company do backroom deals with the public fishery. The direction for this type of management came directly from the prime minister's office. I have confirmation of this!
Can't say I believe any of the parties are in there for the little guy or for protecting wild salmon - or that any of them are immune to corruption and scandal.
However, the assumption that by voting Conservative - is the best choice to preserve fish and fishing opportunity - is simply naive to the point of delusional and flies in the face of the history of the terrible things the Harper regime accomplished: systematically dismantling all the Acts and checks and balances that protected salmon and habitat through undemocratic omnibus bills. Harper and the Conservatives dismantled the Fisheries Act, the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, the Navigable Waters Act, the Ports Act, and numerous others. Here's but a brief sampling of that history:
https://canadians.org/node/3471
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/
https://below2c.org/2015/01/stephen-harper-is-the-worst-prime-minister-in-my-lifetime/
https://lietracker.ca/2019/01/20/war-on-democracy-and-science-with-stephen-harper/
http://behindthenumbers.ca/2011/04/27/harpers-attack-on-democracy-itemized-by-lawrence-martin/
http://rabble.ca/books/reviews/2015/10/greed-and-destruction-real-legacy-stephen-harper
So - I don't see where Harper's puppet would be any better; nor boy-blunder Trudeau neither.
As others have stated: the best option is a minority government at the moment.
However, the assumption that by voting Conservative - is the best choice to preserve fish and fishing opportunity - is simply naive to the point of delusional and flies in the face of the history of the terrible things the Harper regime accomplished: systematically dismantling all the Acts and checks and balances that protected salmon and habitat through undemocratic omnibus bills. Harper and the Conservatives dismantled the Fisheries Act, the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, the Navigable Waters Act, the Ports Act, and numerous others. Here's but a brief sampling of that history:
https://canadians.org/node/3471
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/
https://below2c.org/2015/01/stephen-harper-is-the-worst-prime-minister-in-my-lifetime/
https://lietracker.ca/2019/01/20/war-on-democracy-and-science-with-stephen-harper/
http://behindthenumbers.ca/2011/04/27/harpers-attack-on-democracy-itemized-by-lawrence-martin/
http://rabble.ca/books/reviews/2015/10/greed-and-destruction-real-legacy-stephen-harper
So - I don't see where Harper's puppet would be any better; nor boy-blunder Trudeau neither.
As others have stated: the best option is a minority government at the moment.
Well said @agentaqua
Four years of JT’s sociopolitical adventures have brought our economy to a dire point. Relationships with China, the 2nd largest market to Canada’s goods and services, is in the most fragile shape. unfortunately, I don’t see the pacific salmon going to be on top of Canadians list of concerns for the elections. If liberals are re-elected, it’s going to be a deeper expansion of this year’s **** show. If Conservatives are elected, at best it would be a repeat of Harper’s DFO. We all love to fish and hunt. With JT’s liberals we have pretty much seen all of it. With Conservatives, there will barely be any sustainability of our resources. We may get blanket openings but dismal return of the runs, fish farms and minimal to no enforcement.
This indicates the sad state of the Canadian politics when you feel like no party deserves to represent your interests and your vote.
Four years of JT’s sociopolitical adventures have brought our economy to a dire point. Relationships with China, the 2nd largest market to Canada’s goods and services, is in the most fragile shape. unfortunately, I don’t see the pacific salmon going to be on top of Canadians list of concerns for the elections. If liberals are re-elected, it’s going to be a deeper expansion of this year’s **** show. If Conservatives are elected, at best it would be a repeat of Harper’s DFO. We all love to fish and hunt. With JT’s liberals we have pretty much seen all of it. With Conservatives, there will barely be any sustainability of our resources. We may get blanket openings but dismal return of the runs, fish farms and minimal to no enforcement.
This indicates the sad state of the Canadian politics when you feel like no party deserves to represent your interests and your vote.
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wildmanyeah
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I run into on Facebook lots with this opinion a lot. I don't see anything wrong with it either Harper's legacy is clear. However the Liberals legacy is also clear, They give more and more of the sports fishing pie to First Nations. If people are okay with losing access but okay with it because they think the liberals is the lesser of the two evils on the environment then i can see that.
I had this conversation with my dad yesterday. We both don't like scheer but we also both don't like what the Liberals have done to our fishery and for reasons that CohoChinook has mentioned we will probably vote conservative.
cohochinook
Well-Known Member
We need to make it priority for our elected officials that salmon and all fish stocks are better managed and protected. If we hold their feet to the fire, this can happen. Make sure when you're talking to your local candidates that you make this clear to them.
A group of us have met with BC Conservative MP's to let them know, that we will not just vote for them if they continue with old Harper ways and that they need to prove it to us. They listened at our meeting and have taken are input back to the decision makers and are pushing hard for strong fisheries platform. They have said that should be out, once the election writ is dropped. We can then review it and make decision on where our vote goes.
I agree with Wildmanyeah that under Trudeau that we can expect to continue to loose further access to our public fishery. If you want backroom deals to manage salmon stocks and not science and data, then vote Liberal. I am not going to accept this, so my vote is definitely not for the Liberals!
A group of us have met with BC Conservative MP's to let them know, that we will not just vote for them if they continue with old Harper ways and that they need to prove it to us. They listened at our meeting and have taken are input back to the decision makers and are pushing hard for strong fisheries platform. They have said that should be out, once the election writ is dropped. We can then review it and make decision on where our vote goes.
I agree with Wildmanyeah that under Trudeau that we can expect to continue to loose further access to our public fishery. If you want backroom deals to manage salmon stocks and not science and data, then vote Liberal. I am not going to accept this, so my vote is definitely not for the Liberals!
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
I will also add one more thing there is some VERY important milestones coming up in our fishery. One is that DFO has been told that they need to rewrite the allocation plan. That is not something I want this Liberal goverment doing, Certainly not with a majority on the Fisheries committee.
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