2020 Chinook
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SerengetiGuide
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They are interim measures. While discussions occur...aka ENGO’s and FN say no fishing at all for us and we say the restrictions were too much as non science based. Didn’t see what happened last year happen so who am I to guess on the salmon regs front but my guess is they will do 2019 measures for 2020 ... shouldn’t but will. Kind of nervous they’ll make more restrictions as they cave to engos and FN all the time
SpringVelocity
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fogged in
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I do hope you are right!!!
It's all Greek to me!
donnie d
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SpringVelocity
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Lol.
Port Eliza Fishing
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This process is even worse than last years "process". At least last year on April 17 (or whatever the date was) the season rules were in place and you could figure out what to do. now its going to be uncertainty all the way until well in to May, right before the start of the guiding/lodge season. The reality is the best case is probably the regulations from 2019. Now that those are in place they probably aren't going to ease them, but they could add more on top.
scott craven
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From SVIAC bulletin
The recently released DRAFT Salmon Integrated Fisheries Management Plan (Southern BC Version) has been circulated and includes this paragraph under Fraser River Chinook –Conservation Measureson page 29: “Given the early run timing of Fraser Chinook, the Department plans to implement management measures that were announced for the 2019 season beginning April 1st, 2020 as interim measuresto provide time for a technical review of the 2019 fishery management measures and completion of consultations on possible adjustments to these management measures. The Department plans to meet with First Nations and established advisory groups during consultations in March and April to discuss potential adjustments to management measures, evaluate outcomes and document support for alternative management measures to inform decision making. Interim measures announced April 1st, 2020, will be in place until a decision is made surrounding future measures expected to be in effect June 1, 2020 through May 31, 2021.”What happened last year as of April 16thto our springtime Chinook fishery was without a doubt counterproductive to our sector. It seems DFO is about to repeat the same measures but starting two weeks earlier. So to all salmon fishing enthusiasts -how can we optimize our fishing opportunities? Get on with it right now. If you have a boat, quickly get it ready to enjoy the abundant Washington State hatchery fish that are in our water right now. You’ll be able to put a bunch of beautiful springs in the cooler and even catch a halibut in the weeks to come. But it isn’t looking like you’ll be able to do more than catch-and-release Chinook after April 1stand of course enjoy the Halibut season at the best time of year. Remember our friends who run charter fishing operations too, if your boat isn’t going to be ready for launch until after April 1st, get together with a bunch of your fishing buddies and get out on the water using one of the local guides. Word is there are some bright silver hatchery teenagers awaiting your bait around the South Island right now
The recently released DRAFT Salmon Integrated Fisheries Management Plan (Southern BC Version) has been circulated and includes this paragraph under Fraser River Chinook –Conservation Measureson page 29: “Given the early run timing of Fraser Chinook, the Department plans to implement management measures that were announced for the 2019 season beginning April 1st, 2020 as interim measuresto provide time for a technical review of the 2019 fishery management measures and completion of consultations on possible adjustments to these management measures. The Department plans to meet with First Nations and established advisory groups during consultations in March and April to discuss potential adjustments to management measures, evaluate outcomes and document support for alternative management measures to inform decision making. Interim measures announced April 1st, 2020, will be in place until a decision is made surrounding future measures expected to be in effect June 1, 2020 through May 31, 2021.”What happened last year as of April 16thto our springtime Chinook fishery was without a doubt counterproductive to our sector. It seems DFO is about to repeat the same measures but starting two weeks earlier. So to all salmon fishing enthusiasts -how can we optimize our fishing opportunities? Get on with it right now. If you have a boat, quickly get it ready to enjoy the abundant Washington State hatchery fish that are in our water right now. You’ll be able to put a bunch of beautiful springs in the cooler and even catch a halibut in the weeks to come. But it isn’t looking like you’ll be able to do more than catch-and-release Chinook after April 1stand of course enjoy the Halibut season at the best time of year. Remember our friends who run charter fishing operations too, if your boat isn’t going to be ready for launch until after April 1st, get together with a bunch of your fishing buddies and get out on the water using one of the local guides. Word is there are some bright silver hatchery teenagers awaiting your bait around the South Island right now
Captain PartyMarty
Crew Member
Kind sounds like we are giving up. It’s really too bad the spring was always my favorite time to fish.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
From Pacific Angler Blog:
https://www.pacificangler.ca/pacific-angler-friday-fishing-report-february-28-2020/
"Speaking of April, it’s looking like we are very likely going to be closed for chinook retention as of April 1st. There will be some official announcements early next week, but all indications are that DFO is going to roll over management measures announced on April 18th of last year as of April 1st this year. From there we will see how things go. There will be some opportunity for input and DFO will be looking at data that will be coming available sometime in April. This data will indicate how the management measures of last year affected chinook stocks of concern. Regardless, this is extremely disappointing, as there is no way we should have been shut down in our area last year. We just aren’t encountering Interior Fraser River Chinook stocks of concern in measurable numbers. In most cases you have less than a 1% chance of hooking one of these chinook and in some areas and some months history and science will show there is a 0% chance. There is no logical nor scientific rationale for a complete closure in our local waters in April, May, or June. There are solutions, such as a one hatchery a day limit, and we will be lobbying hard for that in the coming months. Stay tuned to this report and our social media channels on how you can provide input to this process. It seems these days it is all about politics and those that are yelling the loudest seem to be winning. So far that has been ENGO’s and First Nations, so it’s time to get vocal and show your opposition to these proposed management measures. "
https://www.pacificangler.ca/pacific-angler-friday-fishing-report-february-28-2020/
"Speaking of April, it’s looking like we are very likely going to be closed for chinook retention as of April 1st. There will be some official announcements early next week, but all indications are that DFO is going to roll over management measures announced on April 18th of last year as of April 1st this year. From there we will see how things go. There will be some opportunity for input and DFO will be looking at data that will be coming available sometime in April. This data will indicate how the management measures of last year affected chinook stocks of concern. Regardless, this is extremely disappointing, as there is no way we should have been shut down in our area last year. We just aren’t encountering Interior Fraser River Chinook stocks of concern in measurable numbers. In most cases you have less than a 1% chance of hooking one of these chinook and in some areas and some months history and science will show there is a 0% chance. There is no logical nor scientific rationale for a complete closure in our local waters in April, May, or June. There are solutions, such as a one hatchery a day limit, and we will be lobbying hard for that in the coming months. Stay tuned to this report and our social media channels on how you can provide input to this process. It seems these days it is all about politics and those that are yelling the loudest seem to be winning. So far that has been ENGO’s and First Nations, so it’s time to get vocal and show your opposition to these proposed management measures. "
scott craven
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Seems like all the letters and emails fell on deaf ears.
We are so outnumbered by different groups wanting to see fishing stopped.
Very sad to think this is likely what we'll see as the "new normal" in years to come.
We are so outnumbered by different groups wanting to see fishing stopped.
Very sad to think this is likely what we'll see as the "new normal" in years to come.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
By the time people decide to go fishing later in the season pack up the boat to go out and then Check the regs it’s too late. You will see it again this year when the regulations are announced this forum will be flooded with people upset but none that bothered to care to look durning then off season.
I have not wrote any letters this year personally I’m waiting for groups like SFI or the SFAB to come out and let us know if there is any angles to push and I’ll push Thoes angles should the time come. If that’s letters for feedback for the IFMP then I’ll do that.
Honestly the way this is unfolding is no different then what has happened to Fraser River anglers over the last 20 years.
IMO this is the precursor to turning the Chinook and coho fishery to like pink, chum and sockeye. Will only get to fish in area and times when there is a big return.
scott craven
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Expecting the hammer to fall any day now....
SerengetiGuide
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the April 1 regs have already been announced. April 1 - June 1 same regs as 2019. After that up in the air but considering they can’t have meetings and doubt much as much results from DNA are getting done my guess is 2019 rollover. Who knows though
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