Can you heat you home with coal?

Fish Assassin

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Got to ask.. Sure it might be stupid.But it's me asking. :) I have the best bed of coals tonight and thought what if it were coal.

I am wrong or is it just wrong? Is it a price thing? or is it just that bad to burn?

Cheers,
 
F.A., coal was used to heat homes in U.K. and Europe for many years from 19th century until mid 20th. It was burnt in open grates (fireplaces) and also in stoves and every poor working man's house, however small, had a coal scuttle for storage. Coal also fueled the industrial revolution in the U.K. Trouble is, coal is a very, very dirty fuel. It produces huge amounts of particulates (soot) , sulphur dioxide, and other pollutants. It gave rise to the famous London "pea soup" fogs beloved of the old Sherlock Holmes movies. With the passing of the Clean Air act in the 1950's the use of coal for heating began to decline in U.K. and was replace by electricity and natural gas. And the dreadful "pea soup" fogs vanished from London. So......no don't burn coal. It's a dirty fossil fuel that contributes to global warming and is not renewable, unlike wood.......
 
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Quite a few homes on the hillside were heated by coal fire furnaces here in Mission, up to about 20 years ago, or as my nieghbor, a long time resident tells me. Infact he remembers the last home in town pretty much that had coal-fired heating. The fire department ended up condemning the house because it was so sooty inside (as you can imagine ventilation wasn't as important in the 40,50,60's)

Long story short they used the house for a practice burn (lit it up just to put it out kinda thing), and my nieghbor was lucky enough to poach a drum of pure coal, of which I got an ice cream bucket of softball sized chunks. I never did anything with it because I like the idea of having pure coal that is probably eons old! I have thrown a chunk or two into my wood burning fire and yes, it burns (glows) very hot, but in the end I was disappointed/suprised at how quickly it burned into nothing but ash.

A well seasoned piece of maple or fir will do just as well, and smell a lot better. That and you can't fall, buck, and chop coal...so really you would be taking most of the fun out of your wood burner anyways, IMO.

Happy Heating!

FB
 
The short answer to the question is yes you can and many are moving back to the use of coal heating due to increase in heating oil and gas costs! However, I wouldn't recommend doing that!

I actually grew up using coal to heat, just as fuel oil was replacing coal as the most common resource in heating homes. I remember converting all those cooking, heating stoves, and coal furnaces to oil. The memory that sticks most is how black and dirty I used to get handling coal and how much easier and cleaner fuel oil was. So, to answer the question yes, you absolutely can heat your home with coal. Buy the top quality grade

People always relate places like West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky with coal and don’t realize coal is mined all over. Montana, Wyoming, and Utah have large coal mining operations. Even Puget Sound has a coal history. There were large mines in Washington shipping coal to California. Centralia had the honor of being the last open pit mine in Washington to close, which was not very long ago, 2006. Ever hear of ‘Gas Works Park’ on Lake Union? Wonder how it came about? Check out its history, it was - coal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_Works_Park
http://www.washington.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&File_Id=5158

The largest resource used in the production of electricity is still coal! China is now using 50% and India 30% of its production. Before jumping on the coal for heating your home band wagon, which people are now doing due to the higher costs of the other resourses and coal being cheaper… take it from this old fart, look into that closely. Handling coal really is a filthy thing to do. Heating with coal leaves coal ash, which will need to be cleaned and disposed of on a regular basis. That coal ash also contains arsenic, mercury along with other toxic substances. There is the the exposure to coal dust, which it probably won't due to the limited exposure but could cause ‘Black Lung Disease' (BLD). FYI… If you look up BLD you will find mentioned someting called “Anthracosis.” If you look that up and you will find that is “Pulmonology A generic term for blackening of tissues, often understood to mean carbon dust deposition in the lung and lymph nodes, which does not itself cause disease, and is usually present in urban dwellers, and in those working in certain occupations–eg, coal mining. See coal workers' pneumoconiosis.” So, most of us living in cities (those urban dwellers) are already being exposed and getting the benefits of pollution created by coal. Now... what does our good old Obama want to do about that, export more coal to China. And, do that through none other than the port of – Bellingham, Washington! Can one say train, car loads, coal, coal dust, air, pollution, and Bellingham all in one sentence?
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/07/01/2085535/wants-coal-shipments-to-china.html
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/energy-environment/coal/index.html

Environmental effects of coal ?
There are a number of adverse health[SUP][46][/SUP] and environmental effects of coal burning[SUP][47][/SUP] especially in power stations, and of coal mining. These effects include:
· Coal-fired power plants shortened nearly 24,000 lives a year in the United States, including 2,800 from lung cancer[SUP][48][/SUP]
· Generation of hundreds of millions of tons of waste products, including fly ash, bottom ash, flue-gas desulfurization sludge, that contain mercury, uranium, thorium, arsenic, and other heavy metals
· Acid rain from high sulfur coal
· Interference with groundwater and water table levels
· Contamination of land and waterways and destruction of homes from fly ash spills such as Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill
  • Impact of water use on flows of rivers and consequential impact on other land-uses
  • Dust nuisance
  • Subsidence above tunnels, sometimes damaging infrastructure
· Uncontrollable underground fires which may burn for decades or centuries.
· Coal-fired power plants without effective fly ash capture are one of the largest sources of human-caused background radiation exposure
· Coal-fired power plants emit mercury, selenium, and arsenic which are harmful to human health and the environment[SUP][49][/SUP]
· Release of carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, which causes climate change and global warming according to the IPCC and the EPA. Coal is the largest contributor to the human-made increase of CO[SUB]2[/SUB] in the air[SUP][50][/SUP]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#Refined_coal
 
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The Chinese government is now enforcing random temporary factory closures in an effort to reduce pollution. My battery supplier is having trouble getting stock because of delays in production as a result.
 
Charlie has put together a very detailed response, as usual, with many cross references to the facts. Interesting that despite the horrendous well understood health and environmental effects of coal, mining goes on and major exports to China continue, as he describes. This is an example, writ very large, of how "jobs" and "the economy" trumps health, science and the environment. Now where have we seen that before....oh yes, the fish feed lot issue right here in B.C! Until mankind wakes up and realises that continually treating "jobs and the economy" as sacred above all other considerations and effects we are headed, eventually for destruction. In fact the train has already left the station and global warming will, eventually take civilisation down, once the Greenland and Antarctic ice caps go (and they will) since sea levels will rise 100 feet or more...Oh well, keep burning coal and oil and enjoy the "free" energy party while we can eh? As the old saying goes "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die".
 
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Thanks guy's,

I was wondering as my stove is very efficient and a while ago I came accross a place that had a pile of coal. Pieces the size of small footballs. Just thought what would happen if I tossed it in the wood stove at night. Would it last longer then wood. In the morning would I still have coals.

Cheers,
 
Good article on coal stoves here
http://www.videointerchange.com/coal_stoves.shtml

Short answer to your question is no, You have a wood stove that is light duty and will not take the temperature that a coal fire puts out. When the time comes to replace your wood stove you may want to look at getting a coal burner. I have an Uncle that had a small coal stove and he used it all winter to heat his house. You do have to get use to the smell but it worked very well. He was happy with it but I think his wife and kids weren't.
GLG
 
My parents burned coal in an open fireplace when I was a kid. Soot buildup was extreme to the point of chimney fires. Old school heating meathod and not a good option for your stove.
 
Thanks guy's,

I was wondering as my stove is very efficient and a while ago I came accross a place that had a pile of coal. Pieces the size of small footballs. Just thought what would happen if I tossed it in the wood stove at night. Would it last longer then wood. In the morning would I still have coals.

Cheers,

F.A. I guess what a few of us are trying to say is to every question in life there are two parts - Can we? and Should we? Get those in the right order and the answer to the first question makes the answer to the second question academic.
 
Look how we have all switched from oil, wood, n.gas etc. to save money. Heat is heat. No oil or n.gas at my house cause it costs to much. Last month I got a flyer in the mail from John Duncan. I asked for a pile of them to heat my house with. Best thing I have ever gotten out of the man.
 
I think most woodstoves are not designed to take the heat from coal. High Five, perhaps you'd know better, but I think my Pacific Energy warranty is voided buy such acts as burning coal or beach wood.

Dave
 
Heating with coal is not a good idea. It is a very dirty fuel and it's on it's way to being banned from use in residential heating. There are many heating options that are much more efficient. We must make decisions that are the least harmful to this planet we share. If we don't, the future generations will suffer dearly.
 
Can't help myself here...just **** off your wife. She will get hot and bothered...heating problem solved.:p
 
Can't help myself here...just **** off your wife. She will get hot and bothered...heating problem solved.:p

Does not work here. She would rather wait for me to come home with a bucket of hot soapy water to wash the boat and a martini for me. And NO she is not available for trade. And yes there is proof of this... From other SFBC members and co-workers..
 
Most municipatliys have a ban on anything like that. I looked at putting in a small forge in my back yard, no go, in View Royal anyway. Coal burns hot and fast, Im guessing is why they came up with steam. So much energy wasted so fast if its just burned and has nothing to go into.
 
I actually gave some good sound reasons why people should not use coal for heating, didn't I? I really do NOT advocate the use of coal for anything, including home heating. It really is dirty; however, there are two thoughts here.

I will leave you with this thought. I personally would rather see someone using coal to heat their home than that very coal shipped to China to be used in factories. The problems with coal is from the mining and pollution from commercial use and knowing home heating is no longer even an EPA consideration. The EPA is actually more concerned and has more control over the use of wood burning stoves than coal. Let's see with that, think about this choice. Someone in BC, to heat their home?? Or, that same coal shipped to China for use in their factories?? IMHO... FA wins!!!!!!

I don't know about those coal burns faster than wood comments? That must be some pretty poor grade coal? BTU to BTU coal wins over wood all day and will even provide an all night burn. From one who has used both wood and coal for heating. Under the circumstances of no oil or gas option, I personally would be looking for the best coal burning "furnace" I could fine. Plus, just think of how many oxygen producing tress are being saved.

FYI... For those that don't know, BC just happens to be the largest coal producer in Canada, with 59% of that shipped to China! You have to ask, who is helping who save what enviroment?
 
As long as china keeps making steel, the elk valley will continue being the top income per capita in the country.
 
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