DFO Authority

Discussion in 'General Open Forum' started by Trophy21, Jul 13, 2019.

  1. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Crew Member

    Is that real, do you have documents that can share that in sight? It would be helpful if you did. Thanks.
     
  2. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    https://vancouversun.com/news/local...threatened-by-fraser-river-rock-slide-experts

    Maybe ask him for the paperwork it really is REAL

    "Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs, said his group fully supports a call from the Fraser Salmon Management Council to immediately stop all recreational and commercial Fraser River salmon fisheries."

    http://frafs.ca/sites/default/files...kRzqXybnPFpgXHEc_n3H6GDgXBaBwHrWVhBIT5rgHKdAw

    The Fraser Salmon Management Board
    • Equal number of representatives appointed by FSMC and DFO (four each).
    • Purpose is to work on a government-to government, nation-to-nation basis to make consensus decisions and recommendations to the Parties on the collaborative governance and management of Fraser Salmon at the Migratory Route Scale.
     
  3. BCRingo

    BCRingo Well-Known Member

    what “nation” is DFO representing?
     
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  4. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Crew Member

    Well then...if you say it's so, and Chinook and Steelhead are in fact listed then we all better get ready for no fishing coast wide. You can't stop SARA.
     
  5. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

    ST we both know no stock has ever been listed
     
  6. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Crew Member

    Exactly my point. If the DFO, FED & Province could care less about species at risk, then why are approach fisheries being obstructed and hindered while other fisheries in river are open. I told you before that there is more to this picture than we all immediately see. It's not just about so called whale issues, lack of chinook, endangered steelhead or even coho. There is more to it. We are being lied to. It's time to take the Province to task. Sovereignty starts there. We don't have sovereignty in this province, if we did then our entire tidal water fisheries would truly be a public fishery for all fishing sectors, all people shared. DFO and the corporation Government of Canada are another issues of equal battle.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2019
  7. sir-vivor

    sir-vivor Well-Known Member

    I've said from the beginning the Govt will create a smoke screen to lessen the attention and opposition to the west coast water way Transport of Bit. The same pipeline TRU-Dhum has paid 4 billion in tax payers money for a defunct deal...Whats better then the attention and internal fighting and turmoil we now have in our west coast salmon industry .....Just a thought
     
  8. Next time I get approached by the soldiers of Trudeau, I plan on getting on the radio and informing them it is too rough for them to safely board my vessel without endanger the safety of my crew. And if they wish they can escort me to the nearest port for inspection.

    They will find that I am 100% in compliance.

    These turds need to be abused. I bet their salary for 1 day could pay for 10,000 hatchery chinook.
     
  9. wildmanyeah

    wildmanyeah Crew Member

  10. A reminder - most fisheries officers are also active anglers and are interested in sustainable fishing. I suspect many don't agree with what Mr. Wilkinson has decreed.

    They may not agree with the Minister's decisions but their jobs don't let them express it. They don't get to pick and choose the laws they enforce. Let's be respectful to Fisheries Officers - they're not the enemy here. I suspect the powers up the chain at DFO listen to them less than the average citizen when making regs.

    Field level experience tends to bring in better results. Let's encourage DFO to listen to logic.
     
  11. Last Chance

    Last Chance Admin Staff Member

    I am not aware of any situation where one defies the reasonable request of a peace officer ending well.
     
  12. Whole in the Water

    Whole in the Water Well-Known Member

    To answer your question yes you can tell them you do not respect their authority and they cannot board your boat. However you greatly increase your chance of them charging and/or arresting you. Read the legislation on their powers they are similar to peace officers.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2019
  13. SpringVelocity

    SpringVelocity Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't push the envelope. It won't end well. If you don't respect the officers than expect same in return.
     
  14. Kildonan

    Kildonan Well-Known Member

    Well said.

    The guys enforcing have no say in what they’re enforcing. Certainly no voice when it comes to species restrictions. They’re doing what they’re told to do and you can bet they’re told at work to keep their personal opinions to themselves if those opinions are different than that of their employer, the Gov of Canada.

    No need to abuse these guys, it’s not their doing. Any encounter I’ve had, when I behave reasonably, I am treated reasonably.
     
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  15. Unreel

    Unreel Active Member

    Pretty funny, had a chat with several fisheries officers today. One of them was completely open and told me he doesn’t agree with what the government restrictions are and even he said it was all political!!! Was pretty surprised to say the least. Like others have said they are just doing what their told and most realize the restrictions aren’t based on any science.
     
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  16. RiverBoy

    RiverBoy Well-Known Member

    I have been boarded well over ten times, been checked well over 25 times in the last eight years. i have all my paperwork in order, i don’t drink on my boat. i treat them with respect and have never been fined a penny. warning once for not having a working flashlight.

    i don’t plan on starting to poke the bear.

    these guys on the ground are mostly fishermen who also hate the regs and understand that it’s a pile of crap coming from their superiors.
     
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  17. Cuba Libre

    Cuba Libre Well-Known Member


    " I don’t feel it’s the officers on the ground at fault here. " You hit the nail on the head. There may be ( probably ) been the odd FO that should not be carrying a badge, but the average Fisheries Officer is just trying to do a job that is impossible now to do in a fashion that does not piss off someone. The anglers, the general public, First Nations, commercial fishermen, the greens, and his boss that is being ordered to enforce regs that make no sense by some Ottawa bureaucrat , so he pressures the guy in the field. It used to be a job as a fishery officer was an enviable profession. Beats working at the Golden Arches, but certainly not what it used to be,
     
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  18. baddogg

    baddogg Crew Member

    Went out in my Buddys boat today to try and find a water leak that appeared last week when we were fishing. Went out into Departure Bay, Nanaimo and no further. Figured it out and headed in. A Fisheries Officer approached us at the wharf when we were docking. Nice guy. Simply told him we weren't fishing and what we were up to. I have no issues with being approached. Nice to see them around.
     
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  19. trophywife

    trophywife Crew Member

    the lads and the ground or water get all the respect as long as it is reciprocated.... Ottawa gets less than zero of course. I have been checked over the years a few times with no issue.. except once in Vancouver harbour by overzealous rcmp during some training day in crap weather.
     
  20. eroyd

    eroyd Well-Known Member

    Have yet to see a DFO officer this summer, and yes I have been going out. We got checked by the RCMP "Ship Rider" for the usually requirements plus fishing licences.
     

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