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CIVANO said:
If you came down with the virus and were getting worse, would you ask to be given the cocktail of zinc, zpac, and hydroxychloroquine ? I would.
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So basically what you're saying is this is how you make a decision based on trust.
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GLG said:
So basically what you're saying is this is how you make a decision based on trust.
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No actually this:

Drug Combo with Hydroxychloroquine Promising: NYU Study
By Alyssa Paolicelli New York City
PUBLISHED 7:18 AM ET May. 12, 2020

NEW YORK - Researchers at NYU's Grossman School of Medicine found patients given the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine along with zinc sulphate and the antibiotic azithromycin were 44 percent less likely to die from the coronavirus.

"Certainly we have very limited options as far as what we have seen work for this infection so anything that may work is very exciting," said Dr. Joseph Rahimian, Infectious Disease Specialist at NYU Langone Health.

The study looked at the records of 932 COVID-19 patients treated at local hospitals with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.

More than 400 of them were also given 100 milligrams of zinc daily.

Researchers said the patients given zinc were one and a half times more likely to recover, decreasing their need for intensive care.
 
CIVANO said:
No actually this:

Drug Combo with Hydroxychloroquine Promising: NYU Study
By Alyssa Paolicelli New York City
PUBLISHED 7:18 AM ET May. 12, 2020

NEW YORK - Researchers at NYU's Grossman School of Medicine found patients given the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine along with zinc sulphate and the antibiotic azithromycin were 44 percent less likely to die from the coronavirus.

"Certainly we have very limited options as far as what we have seen work for this infection so anything that may work is very exciting," said Dr. Joseph Rahimian, Infectious Disease Specialist at NYU Langone Health.

The study looked at the records of 932 COVID-19 patients treated at local hospitals with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.

More than 400 of them were also given 100 milligrams of zinc daily.

Researchers said the patients given zinc were one and a half times more likely to recover, decreasing their need for intensive care.
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Thanks I had not heard that Zinc was added. I was just aware of the lack of positive results for HC & AZ.
This is good news. So it's the Zinc that does the trick. Here is the rest of the story and a link with a video for others that might be interested...

"One theory is that hydroxychloroquine may aid a cell’s ability to absorb the zinc which has antiviral properties and responds to the infection.

"It sort of boosts the zinc activity which is one of the reasons we thought to look at zinc here and in this observational study we did see a difference suggesting that maybe that boosting activity of the hydroxychloroquine with the zinc helps the zinc to work better and lead to a benefit," Rahimian said.

Dr. Rahimian says patients in the more critical stages of infection did not fare as well.

And he cautioned that more research is needed - in particular a randomized controlled trial - to prove how and how well the drug combination works.

Meanwhile, a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association on Monday found that treating patients only with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, or both did not reduce hospital deaths.

The study by the State Health Department and the SUNY Albany School of Public Health involved 1,500 patients.

President Donald Trump has hailed hydroxychloroquine as a potential game changer. Governor Andrew Cuomo also was upbeat about the drug but late last month he revealed that the preliminary findings of the state study were a disappointment.

"Basically it was not seen as a positive. Not seen as a negative. And didn’t really have much of an effect on the recovery rate," Cuomo said.

Other studies of hydroxychloroquine are continuing."
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-borough...thromycin-combo-on-decreasing-covid-19-deaths
 
walleyes said:
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Thanks, from what I have read the numbers that are quoted seem accurate. Those numbers are what scare the hell out of people and why the effort that has been taken so far is justified. Not sure that people understand those numbers at this point or if they do they are OK with it. To me 1 in 200 deaths seems rather large if we say the population of a country was say 200 million or more.

Currently in BC it is thought that between 2% and 3% of the population have been infected. I have only seen one attempt so far to measure this and was based on blood donated with Canada Blood Services. If I recall it was 1.7% but I would not bet anything on that until the testing protocol can be ironed out with a test that has excellent track record. This should come as we now have 2 different approved serology tests.
 
GLG said:
Thanks, from what I have read the numbers that are quoted seem accurate. Those numbers are what scare the hell out of people and why the effort that has been taken so far is justified. Not sure that people understand those numbers at this point or if they do they are OK with it. To me 1 in 200 deaths seems rather large if we say the population of a country was say 200 million or more.

Currently in BC it is thought that between 2% and 3% of the population have been infected. I have only seen one attempt so far to measure this and was based on blood donated with Canada Blood Services. If I recall it was 1.7% but I would not bet anything on that until the testing protocol can be ironed out with a test that has excellent track record. This should come as we now have 2 different approved serology tests.
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I believe this is where Alberta is going with their current study. They want to determine how many people have come in contact with the virus and possibly hold antibodies. It will all be very helpful if a second round breaks out to determine who is more susceptible. The more tests and more knowledge gathered can only be a good thing.
 
walleyes said:
I believe this is where Alberta is going with their current study. They want to determine how many people have come in contact with the virus and possibly hold antibodies. It will all be very helpful if a second round breaks out to determine who is more susceptible. The more tests and more knowledge gathered can only be a good thing.
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I might be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that the new testing in Alberta is directed to Calgary and they want to know the % of people that are currently infected and don't show symptoms (using PCR test). That's important, however the serology test can tell you how many people, at a point in time, have had covid-19 and recovered regardless if they had symptoms or not. All these things go into projections that can help inform what steps can be taken to manage this pandemic and get the economy back on track.

We need all hands on deck and working together to get through this.

"We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same STORM. Some of us are in yachts, and some are in rowboats, some are clinging to driftwood. We are all in different boats in the same storm."
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Soooo USA has 4.5% of the world population and 29% of the deaths? That’s some good leadership from the White House. Justin keep the border closed!
 
Anyone know if your still ONLY allowed family members in the boat or? If so anyone know a date this changes? I'm getting a little sick of working in close quarters with my buddy but risk being fined for jumping in a boat together. THX
 
Trophy21 said:
Soooo USA has 4.5% of the world population and 29% of the deaths? That’s some good leadership from the White House. Justin keep the border closed!
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India is about to take off, despite really hard measures over the last 6 weeks their numbers are starting to take off.
 
Texas reported its highest single-day increase in new COVID-19 cases as restaurants, salons, and cinemas open to the public
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-highest-single-day-increase-after-relaxing-stay-at-home-2020-5
US lockdown protests may have spread virus widely, cellphone data suggests
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/18/lockdown-protests-spread-coronavirus-cellphone-data
How to Reopen America Safely
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/opinion/reopen-america-coronavirus-lockdown.html
 
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B.C. has recorded 16 new COVID-19 cases in the 48-hour period between Saturday and Monday, as the province prepares to enter Phase 2 of its pandemic response with a gradual reopening of businesses and services.

  • 16 more people have been diagnosed with COVID-19 in British Columbia, bringing the total to 2,444.
  • There were eight new cases between Saturday and Sunday, and eight new cases between Sunday and Monday.
  • Two more people have died in the past 48 hours.
  • There are 335 active cases in B.C.
  • 47 people are in hospital, 12 of them in the ICU.
  • 1,966 people have recovered.
  • There are no new community outbreaks.
  • There are no new outbreaks in long-term care homes.
  • There are 15 ongoing outbreaks in long-term care homes, and five ongoing outbreaks in acute care facilities.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-coronavirus-bc-update-may-18-1.5574734
 
 
It’s a scary thought when you hear about the lack of equipment and burn out of Health Care Workers, then look at the hospitalization/ICU numbers. What would we have dome if those hospital numbers ever hit the predicted numbers. How prepared can you be for a major health care emergency. We got lucky.
 
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Phase 2 of the reopening of B.C.'s economy begins today

THE LATEST:
  • Henry announced just two new cases of COVID-19 since Monday.
  • 146 people have died of the disease in B.C.
  • There have been 2,446 COVID-19 cases in B.C.
  • Of those who have tested positive, 1,975 people have recovered.
  • Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry and Health Minister Adrian Dix will release a written briefing tomorrow at 3 p.m. PT.
As B.C. enters the second phase of its pandemic response, there are more signs that the COVID-19 curve is flattening

Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said two new cases of the virus had been confirmed Tuesday, the lowest number since March 6. Dr. Henry also reported three new deaths.

Those figures bring the total number of confirmed cases in the province to 2,446. Henry said 325 of those cases are active, with 45 people in hospital and 12 in critical or intensive care.

The province's death toll, meanwhile, stands at 146.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...update-what-you-need-to-know-may-19-1.5574829
 
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