Aces
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He’s not the only one or did you gloss over that? I’m sick and tired of people trivializing this virus. I know several people that have died or are long haul sufferers
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UkeeDreamin
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In the interest of sharing info, talked to my GP today about the AZ vaccine given I have a blood clotting disorder. Very interesting discussion ensued. Coles notes version, Blood clotting related to the AZ is within the broad spectrum (rare of course) of immune response (as I’m sure many of you know) rather than triggering or stimulating a pre/existing clotting disorder. More interesting was the close association to immune response to the drug heparin (which I had to take during a partic nasty clotting episode), ie patients exhibiting either close a good or bad response to heparin are more likely to have a similar response to the AZ vaccine.
So, a long winded way of saying, if you’ve had a bad reaction to heparin, you may want tomchat with your doc before considering the AZ. Im registered w/ the prov for whatever and 4 local pharmacies for the AZ.
Cheers!
Ukee
So, a long winded way of saying, if you’ve had a bad reaction to heparin, you may want tomchat with your doc before considering the AZ. Im registered w/ the prov for whatever and 4 local pharmacies for the AZ.
Cheers!
Ukee
tightlines
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Here is some data, because I prefer not to search the internet to find one news article that gives absolutely no context or support to my position.
Please note the years 2009, 2017 and 2020. They are identical in all cause mortality. I don't recall BC being shut down in 2009 and 2017? I actually don't recall anyone really caring about these excess deaths then. What changed?
SpringVelocity
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OMG I can't believe we are back here again.
islandboy
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Basically the disease.
H1N1 proved to be a flop that the elderly were already immune to.
Influenza we have natural immune defense mechanism and a vaccine for. They get started on vaccine production ahead of the season.
In all three cases the overdose issue is a social/mental health issue we have yet to address.
C19 was/is killing folks everywhere and mutating due to certain areas not taking the advice of the scientists.
tightlines
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Did you look at the chart?
islandboy
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Have you looked at the news out of India?
tightlines
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I'm sorry but trying to compare a country with 100x the population density of Canada, not to mention the obvious economic and healthcare deficits, food scarcity etc. Is this a good comparative?! Please. Can someone show me how many lives we've extended with the measures we've implemented? Or is this even being considered. I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze. Someone show me the data that supports the measures... Not some sob story about the long lost cousin who got covid
How do you dare to ask questions ?!
Just stay silent and enjoy the crumbs you are getting from your masters !
If you don’t obey in silence you won’t even be allowed to use the boat launch ( this is what someone posted earlier but his post has disappeared : the boat launches will be available only for “ good guys “)
Metro Vancouver family urges people to take COVID-19 seriously after healthy father dies
Melissa Hance told CTV News that her 46-year-old husband Reid was healthy, active and had no underlying health conditions when he suddenly died at home days after contracting the coronavirus in early April.
bc.ctvnews.ca
spikeydave
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Do you get a flu shot? Do you think we need a flu shot? Do you think we need a passport for the flu shot. This is BS, there version of vaccine for a virus that is not comparable to measles/mumps and rubella. I for 1 don't believe we all need vaccine, if you wan tone your choice, your body but for god sake give your head a shake. And just for your info I am high risk and think this is bloody crazy. I will take responsibility to protect my self as anyone should, I wont blame anyone if I get covid and yes I may die but at this rate of loosing everything our grandfathers fought for so be it.
Sea lyin’
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Whatever bud. Give my head a shake? How about you pull yours out of your butt. Your whining to a guy that served as a Corporal in the Canadian Armed Forces from 1980-84 and I know a hell of a lot more about what your grandparents fought for than you ever will. Your posting whatever drivel you want on the Internet because of the sacrifices your grandparents made. Showing proof of getting a vaccine is hardly the blow to your rights you Nancy’s are making it out to be. If you believe that, you deserve to sit home while the rest of us go fishing. Think I give a ****?. Nobody’s forcing anybody to do anything. If you dont want the shot, don’t take it. If you do, show proof or shut your whining yap. No where is there a clinic forcing you take the shot. No where. If you believe that, your even less in touch with reality than you come across through your posts. Just remember that’s your choice. And you do have a choice. That’s really what your grandparents fought for so don’t give me your “my poor rights” hogwash. Myself, I’ll get the shot and gladly show proof to whoever wants it. Give my head a shake? If your Grandfolks actually did serve they would be ashamed of you.
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IronNoggin
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I had a similar discussion with my SawBones (head of surgery here) and my Specialist. I have deep venous thrombosis - a lengthy way to say there is a major blood clot in the main vein that drains the left hemisphere of my brain. They do not know why nor what caused that to form. Nor can they say why it has only dissolved ~ 40 % after more than a year on intensive blood thinners and blood pressure meds (among several others). The latter was a surprise to all when discovered a month or so ago.
They both did however did advise me most strongly NOT to get any of the vaccines until such time as the meds are backed off by a minimum of 50 %. They are especially concerned that I get nowhere near the Astra or JJ versions. Precautionary to some extent, but they both want to err on the side of caution regarding whether or not those might trigger further problems for me. I appreciate that, as I rather want to see a few more sunrises...
Never had any application of the drug Heparin you mentioned. Interesting that.
Cheers,
Nog
IronNoggin
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B.C.’s COVID-19 road checks won’t require travel documents
"Regional travel ban working voluntarily, minister says
B.C. is beginning enforcement checks of its COVID-19 non-essential travel restrictions, with police checking highway and ferry routes in and out of the Lower Mainland and an emphasis on education, rather than assessing fines.
Road checks will focus on Highway 1 out of Hope to the three B.C. Interior routes, and ferry routes to Vancouver Island. Beyond that, the public health advisory to stay local within the three areas is in effect, and it’s working on a voluntary basis, Farnworth said. The regional travel order continues to May 25."
B.C.’s COVID-19 road checks won’t require travel documents - Mission City Record
Regional travel ban working voluntarily, minister says
lazylump
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How does this chart prove your point? Covid restrictions basically eliminated influenza deaths in 2020, and despite all the hard work by everyone to keep people from dying there are still the same number of deaths. Imagine the numbers if nothing were done, infection was rampant and maybe a BC variant had arisen as a result of rampant infection. Despite everything going on all over the world, Covid measures still don’t make sense to you?
wildmanyeah
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IronNoggin
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A local biotech company has a very promising nasal spray of Nitric Oxide for treating and preventing Covid.
https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com...educes-covid-19-viral-load-uk-clinical-trail/
A self-administered nitric oxide nasal spray (NONS) made by Vancouver-based biotech firm SaNOtize has been found to dramatically reduce Covid-19 viral load in infected patients after completing early-stage clinical trials in Canada and, most recently, the UK.
And... New Zealand & Israel climb aboard:
https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com...educes-covid-19-viral-load-uk-clinical-trail/
A self-administered nitric oxide nasal spray (NONS) made by Vancouver-based biotech firm SaNOtize has been found to dramatically reduce Covid-19 viral load in infected patients after completing early-stage clinical trials in Canada and, most recently, the UK.
And... New Zealand & Israel climb aboard:
Israel and New Zealand Permit Sale of SaNOtize’s Breakthrough Anti-Viral Nasal Spray
Biotech company SaNOtize Research & Development Corp., (SaNOtize) today announced that it has received interim approval to sell its Nitric Oxide N
www.businesswire.com
IronNoggin
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COVID-19 vaccine maker Providence says it's leaving Canada after calls for more federal support go unanswered
"I can't tell you how much this pains me. The reality is, I can do more good for the world outside of Canada than I can in."
The move is a setback for the federal government's efforts to nurture a domestic biotechnology industry. The COVID-19 crisis has exposed how being entirely dependent on foreign sources for much-needed products like vaccines makes Canada vulnerable.
Providence, which was developing mRNA cancer vaccines before the COVID-19 crisis hit, came forward with promising data about its novel coronavirus product last March, only weeks after BioNTech and Moderna produced similarly encouraging early results for their mRNA-based vaccines.
Sorenson claimed the company's pre-clinical trial results were "equivalent or better than these big companies that are now saving the world."
Last year, the small Canadian firm — which developed its product with researchers at the Sunnybrook Research Institute in Toronto — asked the federal government for a loan to help launch clinical trials in humans and stand-up a manufacturing site in Canada. Those requests were largely ignored...
"I never asked for a single handout. All I've asked for is a deposit on vaccines or a non-interest loan," Sorenson said.
"People have said to me so many times and I refused to acknowledge it, but the truth is, if Providence was located in Quebec we wouldn't be having this conversation," Sorenson said.
"Canada's broken. The federal government doesn't see past Ontario heading west."
Based on the advice of the vaccine task force, federal officials have made a $173 million commitment to help Quebec City-based Medicago produce its version of a COVID-19 vaccine.
One member of the task force, Gary Kobinger — who helped develop a successful Ebola vaccine with a team in Winnipeg — resigned last fall amid concerns about the task force's transparency and its ties to the pharmaceutical industry.
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