Halibut anchoring ????
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Dave S
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I value my life and take precautions when anchoring. I'm pretty sure Wolf relies on a knife to cut away his anchor if needed. I've seen many charter rigs and never noticed a break away like this. Where and how would you rig it?
searun
Well-Known Member
I run my bow rope back to an anchor point on the boat near the stern. On the end of my bow rope is a small stainless ring. I place that ring into the quick release. The actual quick release is hard mounted to the boat. When you need to drop the anchor, you pull the pin and it released the ring...done!
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
That's interesting I should add that too my anchor system....
TheSookesOfHazzard
Member
Not necessarily. Depends if you like to cover ground or not, but I think lots of guys here would use 600 feet in 250 - 320 foot depths, and go shorter in shallower areas. I have a 400 foot piece and a 150 foot piece that can be connected with a quick connect (eye splices in both rope ends) and it goes through the ring just fine. You could potentially have just the one rope and tie it off to the other ring that connects to your float line, but I'd be weary of what knots you use to do this as not to strain the rope, and how are you going to measure how much line is out anyway without colour coding or something? IMO, having multiple ropes you can connect is the ticket.
hello I am new to this site and was given this link via another fishing forum BD. I am going to start anchoring this year for butts we fish out of Sequim and PA wa. I have already purchased my rode for this and was uneasy about going to the bow to anchor every time. and we do not have a windlass yet. i have been reading this thread and others on here watching the videos but want to make sure i have it right before giving it a shot.
form what I have gathered I will tie off my bow cleat 1/2 rope and run it along side of boat and secure to stern cleat on this rope there will be a steel ring.
then I drop anchor and feed rode until rode is all out and clip this to the steel ring and it will walk itself up to the bow.
then when I retrieve the steel ring will come back to the stern and pull through the puller.
a few questions on the quick release pull pin on the stern when you pull that wont the line still be connected to the bow?
I like the idea of anchoring on the deck and not trying to walk the narrow walkway our cdory has to the front bow.
and where would one find the pull pin release and steel circle?
this is the retrieve system I plan to use http://www.orvalsezpull.com/
and lastly will this work for overnight anchoring as well in shallow water?
Sorry for all the questions I am new to anchoring and have been looking for videos ect to show this system from set up to anchor to retrieve. The BC fishing 3 min video was the best I have seen yet.
form what I have gathered I will tie off my bow cleat 1/2 rope and run it along side of boat and secure to stern cleat on this rope there will be a steel ring.
then I drop anchor and feed rode until rode is all out and clip this to the steel ring and it will walk itself up to the bow.
then when I retrieve the steel ring will come back to the stern and pull through the puller.
a few questions on the quick release pull pin on the stern when you pull that wont the line still be connected to the bow?
I like the idea of anchoring on the deck and not trying to walk the narrow walkway our cdory has to the front bow.
and where would one find the pull pin release and steel circle?
this is the retrieve system I plan to use http://www.orvalsezpull.com/
and lastly will this work for overnight anchoring as well in shallow water?
Sorry for all the questions I am new to anchoring and have been looking for videos ect to show this system from set up to anchor to retrieve. The BC fishing 3 min video was the best I have seen yet.
hambone
Well-Known Member
I have a question for some of the guides or experienced Hali fishermen.
So normal anchoring for a ship or larger pleasure craft would require a scope of at least 4:1 (rode: depth of water). Obviously this isn't going to happen when Hali anchoring, but what would you suggest as a minimum ratio. Also, do you have a max ratio as well. Say you have a 500' rode but find a shallower spot to fish, let's say 100'. Are you deploying all of your rode or will you snub it off at a certain length.
Thanks in advance for any tips.
So normal anchoring for a ship or larger pleasure craft would require a scope of at least 4:1 (rode: depth of water). Obviously this isn't going to happen when Hali anchoring, but what would you suggest as a minimum ratio. Also, do you have a max ratio as well. Say you have a 500' rode but find a shallower spot to fish, let's say 100'. Are you deploying all of your rode or will you snub it off at a certain length.
Thanks in advance for any tips.
trophywife
Crew Member
i run 2 to 1 ratio or try to.. with a 50' chain.. the chain is all the difference. 100' depth anchor tho i will shorten up, sometimes tide and swell require more tho., but i still keep the 50' chain on the bottom..
Finished Business
Well-Known Member
What Diameter chain are you guys running @ 40'+ lengths?
Assuming boat LOA is approx 25'
hambone
Well-Known Member
Trotac suggests minimum one boat length of 1/4" to 3/8" chain. But really, the more chain the better your anchor grabs so you might as well go 30' or better. (Disclaimer, I'm not an experienced hali anchor fishermen, just trying to help out lol).
fshnfnatic
Well-Known Member
Yep. This is what I do.Shackle the chain to the bottom hole at the claw end of my Bruce Anchor,then zap strap the
chain to the hole at the end of the anchor shaft.I use zap straps that are about 3/8 " wide and just use 1 as I only
have a smaller 16.5 D.E. If you have a larger boat you could use more straps.I just didn't want to not have the
power or momentum to break the straps if it ended up stuck in a crevice or something like that.
trophywife
Crew Member
1/2" chain.. and yes, definitely the zap strap trick has saved my anchor a few times. 3x heavy duty. they break when needed.
Fixit
Well-Known Member
thought id share my hali anchor set up
anchor is an 11lb claw (shackled at the elbow, zap strap and the end)
105ft of 1/4" chain
600 ft of 1/2" polysteel that passes through a 6" SS anchor ring/ 18" scotchman float
terminated with a hard 10"float and a thimbled spliced eye
the ss ring cant pass the hard float at the end of the rode
i clip a 50ft floating line from the float to the bow-sern line with a caribener.
used this setup several times with great results...
however today things went sideways on me. several things contributed to this near miss
-on the ride out from bamfeild i took a wave over the bow (musta been a rogue wave?), where my floating line was left/stored, washing it overboard (i saw it a minute later but lost sight of it again)
so upon arriving on my spot i had to improvise, i used a 15ft dock line to go from the bow-stern rope to the scotchman.
-secondly, as i payed out rode, i noticed that i was coming up on my desired spot quicker that anticipated, so rather than re setting i just tied a double overhand knot to stop the scotchman ring from slidinging back towards the boat. the 15 ft dock line was tied to this loop.
this worked well for about an hour but as the wind and waves picked up, i decided that i should probably head in soon.
this is when i noticed the scotchman has jumped over the knot, and was bumping up against the bow
this isnt good im thinking as i see the waves starting to get close to coming over the bow....
reel up 4 rods from 230 ft, start the engine and head off at a 45* at 5knots speed
after 30 seconds or so, i notice that the scotchman is happily bouncing along the stern of the boat, tangled in the 15ft bow line and not sliding down the rode as i had expected.
engines go into neutral and i unhappily go back to see a twisted mess wrapped around the ring. i figure i can easily untangle the ropes quickly...
by the time i sort out the ropes i realize that the boat has spun in the wind, stern to the waves. the rode now is paying out of the bucket, over the side of the boat, and around the leg.
panic time!!!
there is still about 50 ft of rope uncoiling itself from my bucket, i figure i have about 50 seconds to fix this or cut loose.
i try reaching over the back of the boat to untangle but cant get slack for long enough to loop it over the leg, i run up to the helm and trim the leg up, grab my 6 ft gaff and head back to the leg, a quick pull on the gaff and the rope comes free from the leg, just as the hard float bangs over the gunwhales... more of a fluke that it came free than anything else...
finally free from the anchor i bob around for a second, then i spin the boat back around, collect the float and retrieve the whole shebang as normal..
looking back there were several things that should have made me think "maybe today isnt a good day to anchor"
wave over the bow,
loss of my normal gear
wind and waves picking up,
fishing by myself,
a bit of an eye opener for me and lessons learned.
anchor is an 11lb claw (shackled at the elbow, zap strap and the end)
105ft of 1/4" chain
600 ft of 1/2" polysteel that passes through a 6" SS anchor ring/ 18" scotchman float
terminated with a hard 10"float and a thimbled spliced eye
the ss ring cant pass the hard float at the end of the rode
i clip a 50ft floating line from the float to the bow-sern line with a caribener.
used this setup several times with great results...
however today things went sideways on me. several things contributed to this near miss
-on the ride out from bamfeild i took a wave over the bow (musta been a rogue wave?), where my floating line was left/stored, washing it overboard (i saw it a minute later but lost sight of it again)
so upon arriving on my spot i had to improvise, i used a 15ft dock line to go from the bow-stern rope to the scotchman.
-secondly, as i payed out rode, i noticed that i was coming up on my desired spot quicker that anticipated, so rather than re setting i just tied a double overhand knot to stop the scotchman ring from slidinging back towards the boat. the 15 ft dock line was tied to this loop.
this worked well for about an hour but as the wind and waves picked up, i decided that i should probably head in soon.
this is when i noticed the scotchman has jumped over the knot, and was bumping up against the bow
this isnt good im thinking as i see the waves starting to get close to coming over the bow....
reel up 4 rods from 230 ft, start the engine and head off at a 45* at 5knots speed
after 30 seconds or so, i notice that the scotchman is happily bouncing along the stern of the boat, tangled in the 15ft bow line and not sliding down the rode as i had expected.
engines go into neutral and i unhappily go back to see a twisted mess wrapped around the ring. i figure i can easily untangle the ropes quickly...
by the time i sort out the ropes i realize that the boat has spun in the wind, stern to the waves. the rode now is paying out of the bucket, over the side of the boat, and around the leg.
panic time!!!
there is still about 50 ft of rope uncoiling itself from my bucket, i figure i have about 50 seconds to fix this or cut loose.
i try reaching over the back of the boat to untangle but cant get slack for long enough to loop it over the leg, i run up to the helm and trim the leg up, grab my 6 ft gaff and head back to the leg, a quick pull on the gaff and the rope comes free from the leg, just as the hard float bangs over the gunwhales... more of a fluke that it came free than anything else...
finally free from the anchor i bob around for a second, then i spin the boat back around, collect the float and retrieve the whole shebang as normal..
looking back there were several things that should have made me think "maybe today isnt a good day to anchor"
wave over the bow,
loss of my normal gear
wind and waves picking up,
fishing by myself,
a bit of an eye opener for me and lessons learned.
HookNSlice
Member
Great story Fixit same thing happened to me on Constance all good until the tide turn and current picked up. Had to cut the line but tied off anchor on the float and came back the next day a little more equipped. If it wasn't for a sharpe knife we were going swimming
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Well did I get reminded yesterday again how things can go wrong... We were anchored in flood yesterday out aways of Pedder in Metchosen... I sort of wasn't paying attention in front and the current shifted so quickly next minute anchor must have slipped under lines... I went to look in front and couldn't see the ball and it swung side of boat. We hooked onto the anchor so now I have both rods rapped 100 of times around....
This was first for me, and I have safely tons of times over the years...
One thing I would pass on though..If we did not have the floating line and proper sinking line we likely would have had the line wrapped on the prop...It was really close.
I do have a question though since like to prevent that again. I suppose I should have pulled lines up and motored back a bit to give room as we swung around on current change ... Like I said rarely have had it happened but weird current...
Just thought I would share...
At least we got some halibut.....But dont want to repeat that trip again...
This was first for me, and I have safely tons of times over the years...
One thing I would pass on though..If we did not have the floating line and proper sinking line we likely would have had the line wrapped on the prop...It was really close.
I do have a question though since like to prevent that again. I suppose I should have pulled lines up and motored back a bit to give room as we swung around on current change ... Like I said rarely have had it happened but weird current...
Just thought I would share...
At least we got some halibut.....But dont want to repeat that trip again...
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scott craven
Well-Known Member
I always keep an eye on the scotchman.
if I see the boat drifting up on it, I'll throw it in reverse a few times
until the current pushes the boat away.
if I see the boat drifting up on it, I'll throw it in reverse a few times
until the current pushes the boat away.
