John Ingram
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I was thinking that catch and release was still in effect ..... MY mistake if it's not. I fish area 19 only
The "New" Restrictions on Chinook Are Up
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cohochinook
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I sat across the table with a group of concerned anglers from Jonathan Wilkinson then fisheries minister in 2018. We brought a proposal that was data based to get an opening before the then July 15th end of the closure date. When asked what we had to do to get this opening looked at or approved he said "You need to get Fraser River First Nations to agree." So in his mind DFO was no longer the regulator!
There are two SFAB proposals right now in for consideration by Fisheries Murray that would create a one-a-day hatchery Chinook retention opportunity from April 1 to May 31. These would bring openings to the Vancouver area and the South Island. They've been worked on very hard with a huge amount of volunteer time and we are still waiting for a final decision.
My best recommendation is you call or write to your MP asking them to reach out to Minister Murray in support of these proposals.
Both the Public Fishery Alliance and SFI have been in direct meetings with ministerial staff. It's important if you want to see this work continue that you support both these organizations by joining and getting a membership and donating. As pointed out in earlier posts there's only a small group of volunteers and we need more and better financial support!
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cohochinook
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There is a court case underway on the Fraser River by the Fraser River Sport Fishing Alliance:
https://www.theprogress.com/news/fi...keted-during-september-demonstration-fishery/
If you care support them with a donation or membership
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mac_davy
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i joined the PFA this morning others should as well, i can't afford the 1000 dollar chinook membership in the SFI sat across the table with a group of concerned anglers from Jonathan Wilkinson then fisheries minister in 2018. We brought a proposal that was data based to get an opening before the then July 15th end of the closure date. When asked what we had to do to get this opening looked at or approved he said "You need to get Fraser River First Nations to agree." So in his mind DFO was no longer the regulator!
There are two SFAB proposals right now in for consideration by Fisheries Murray that would create a one-a-day hatchery Chinook retention opportunity from April 1 to May 31. These would bring openings to the Vancouver area and the South Island. They've been worked on very hard with a huge amount of volunteer time and we are still waiting for a final decision.
My best recommendation is you call or write to your MP asking them to reach out to Minister Murray in support of these proposals.
Both the Public Fishery Alliance and SFI have been in direct meetings with ministerial staff. It's important if you want to see this work continue that you support both these organizations by joining and getting a membership and donating. As pointed out in earlier posts there's only a small group of volunteers and we need more and better financial support!
Join the PFA - Public Fishery Alliance
Why Join the PFA? The PFA will give you a voice with decision makers. You deserve a say in how our public fishery is managed. Being a member of the PFA enables you to: Join a Collective Voice – PFA members become part of a strong voice on important issues facing British Columbia’s sustainable...
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Last_Call
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Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere but has anyone seen/created any current charts showing the openings/closures by area/time? I know last year there were several nice charts with colours/shading/lines showing coordinates/etc that made it easy to see exactly what areas/sub-areas are open to what during various times of year. I think the guys at Pacific Angler included some in one of last year's reports they send out but I haven't seen anything for this year.
Would be nice if DFO did this but obviously they have some weird kink about making their Fishery Notices as difficult to comprehend as possible for the avg person. thanks in advance.
Would be nice if DFO did this but obviously they have some weird kink about making their Fishery Notices as difficult to comprehend as possible for the avg person. thanks in advance.
searun
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My recollection of Minister Wilkinson's comments to us in various meetings (yes I was there) related to getting FN's on-side with recreational fishery proposals was because he was referencing the risk of litigation that might come from decisions that we were advocating. Wilkinson understood the inherent risk for both parties and chose to avoid those...which he plainly stated post decision explanations. Something we rarely see from other Ministers before or since. I think also he was suggesting that there is more to be gained if the recreational community embraced the concept of working more closely with FN's to find areas of common interest to avoid sorting out our issues in the courts. While it is likely overly idealistic to think we can strike a working relationship with all FN's communities, I do think on the whole there is more to be gained from professional, science-based diplomacy that helps build working relationships with both FN's and DFO. That is certainly the approach the SFI takes, and is highly effective in building relationships that open dialogue.
Having said that, we should never shy away from litigation if we are being treated unfairly and doors to professional diplomacy have been closed.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
fraser river First Nations don’t like the commercial recreational industry. Careful what you wish for in that regard.
ive seen advice for some that think the guiding industry should be regulated under commercial allocation policy.
@Derby Was there any update from the trip to Ottawa that you might be able to share with us? Just curious if there is really any traction with the new minister and her team on the MSF agenda.
OldBlackDog
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However, let’s be clear that ALL negotiations with the governments are Nation to Nation.
The public is not involved and is only advised of the agreements after they have been agreed to.
Therefore, our government is the only one who can help us?
Further, I May be wrong, but when they changed to fishery act, did we not loose our right to fish under the old charter?
Derby
Crew Member
I havent seen our report from the team that was there... I can say all indication from DFO is they are starting to move towards MSF and some stuff will be in the hands of the SFAB shortly outlining this.. in the meantime stand bye one
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
looking at the Rec creel survey data it’s pretty obviously from a DFO perspective of why a MSF might be a better root to go.
cohochinook
Well-Known Member
Definitely the sport fishing community should be sitting down with First Nation communities looking at ways where common interests can be found and relationships can be built. I have worked for over 20 years with my local first Nations in my area on finding ways we can work together for positive outcomes. We jointly worked to save the local DFO enforcement office, we've tackled ramping by BC Hydro and been part of a water use planning committee, worked jointly on side channel habitat restoration on a number of projects and tackled violations in a local pink fishery by commercial boats. Just to give a few examples.
That being said we need a regulator and DFO is supposed to make decisions based on the best science and data and not politics. That certainly hasn't taken place under Wilkinson or proceeding Liberal Fisheries Ministers. Diplomacy only gets you go so far if one group isn't treated fairly.
We need a strong voice and that's why I encourage everyone to join the SFI and the Public Fishery Alliance.
There are very real differences in FN communities and their willingness to work with non FN people. The gamut runs from very easy to work with to very hostile. I am glad your experiences have been positive.
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
100 percent agree.
searun
Well-Known Member
I think we are quick to forget that Section 35 FSC rights come ahead of other stakeholder fishery opportunities after conservation. Part of working with FN's communities to collaborate on how we can shape win/win fishery opportunities for everyone is also to respect the constitutional rights under Section 35.
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Agree. Good post. I am sort of getting tired of the us vs them dialogue. We never going to move forward if all sides don't drop the gloves.
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