Halibut Experimental Recreational Fishery Program
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Saw this ad in province this morning
For Sale: Recreational Halibut Quota Available at
Recreational Halibut Quota Available at www.IQMI.ca Ad Placed on Vancouver Sun and Vancouver Province .
For Sale: Recreational Halibut Quota Available at
Recreational Halibut Quota Available at www.IQMI.ca Ad Placed on Vancouver Sun and Vancouver Province .
sammyslabber
Active Member
It's in many of the local papers
most likely a group of slipper skippers adding more fuel to the fire...sammy
fish4all
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careful there alwaysfishn. the troll spray may might come out. A good part of the participants here do a great job of complaining and shooting every effort for change down, but has little in the way of solutions or thinking outside the box. all you will find is "take it away" that is about as far as many have gotten. Pay no mind that the majority of the quotas have been bought and sold the answer again...."we don't care take it away and give it to us". oh yeah they have modified it a bit to "take it away from the slipper skippers".
on another note about the sockeye.... I think you have found a good solution. A market based mechanism.
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sammyslabber
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How touching fish4u a little troll bonding with your understudy...sammy
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Charlie
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Lipripper
Active Member
Can you tell me how any ITQ fisheries are beneficial to any sector please?
Steelhead S2
Active Member
They're multiplying!!!
Jeez, f4a, why do we have to find the solutions too. Isn't it enough that we recognize the problem, stand up for our beliefs, and make a small change? For a "group" made up of strangers (for the most part) with no organized leadership, and a membership who disagrees internally on almost everything, I'd say we did a fine job. Certainly a lot more constructive than your solution, which is to be a poor loser and publicly insult the rest of us.
For what it's worth, I think economic analysis has its place. But not in every single debate or discussion.
And as for shooting guys who C&R sox, it makes you sound like you're neverfishn. FYI: recreational soc fishn has a very high rate of lost fish, so there is really not much difference, from the hook and release perspective, between meat fishn and C&R.
Jeez, f4a, why do we have to find the solutions too. Isn't it enough that we recognize the problem, stand up for our beliefs, and make a small change? For a "group" made up of strangers (for the most part) with no organized leadership, and a membership who disagrees internally on almost everything, I'd say we did a fine job. Certainly a lot more constructive than your solution, which is to be a poor loser and publicly insult the rest of us.
For what it's worth, I think economic analysis has its place. But not in every single debate or discussion.
And as for shooting guys who C&R sox, it makes you sound like you're neverfishn. FYI: recreational soc fishn has a very high rate of lost fish, so there is really not much difference, from the hook and release perspective, between meat fishn and C&R.
Steelhead S2
Active Member
Don't look them in the eye Lippy! You might turn to stone!
These are price-of-everything and value-of-nothing types. They can cook up a "fair market" answer for anything. Ideologues who can't bring real "analysis" to any issue. Just ignore them and it will seem like they've gone away.
sammyslabber
Active Member
Thanx Charlie,you're a scholar & a gentleman... here's back at ya x 5...sammy
x 5...sammy
Lipripper
Active Member
Wouldn't be bad to have a discussion rather than the random stabs from the dark??
I have no problem listening to other views....
I commercial fished and respect the sector... If I remember correctly you put some time in too.
As F4A says..."Don't poke the hornets nest"
Englishman
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Looks like there is just as much confusion, dissatisfaction and legal muddle with the quota system in the U.K. as there is here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13682451
http://www.arrancoast.com/news/newsletters/96.html
Seems like no one has a solution as to how to fairly allocate a finite public resource, while at the same time preventing a "free-for-all" that depletes the resource. Quota's are clearly not the answer, as it ends up privatising the resource everywhere it has been tried.......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13682451
http://www.arrancoast.com/news/newsletters/96.html
Seems like no one has a solution as to how to fairly allocate a finite public resource, while at the same time preventing a "free-for-all" that depletes the resource. Quota's are clearly not the answer, as it ends up privatising the resource everywhere it has been tried.......
Steelhead S2
Active Member
Sorry Lip, I didn't mean to stifle a reasoned discussion. Just didn't expect it from these personas on this topic; I think I know what we'll hear about it. You are right about poking the nest though....
Re the com. sector, yes I did do my turn, and loved it. Still feel like I have one foot in a boot, and I am behind continued industrial harvest all the way.
Re the com. sector, yes I did do my turn, and loved it. Still feel like I have one foot in a boot, and I am behind continued industrial harvest all the way.
alwaysfishn
Member
Com' on folks, don't you have anything to add to the discussion? Other than a few comments all I'm getting is chirping...
I realize that I've somewhat hijacked the thread, but it seemed to have died a death of it's own and my musings are related to the topic.
If I didn't know that this was a discussion forum, the impression I'd be getting is that unless I agree with some of the vocal posters, that my comments are not welcome.
I'm not sure, but I may be experiencing hurt feelings....
I realize that I've somewhat hijacked the thread, but it seemed to have died a death of it's own and my musings are related to the topic.
If I didn't know that this was a discussion forum, the impression I'd be getting is that unless I agree with some of the vocal posters, that my comments are not welcome.
I'm not sure, but I may be experiencing hurt feelings....
sammyslabber
Active Member
Geeze,glad to wake up this morning had a nightmare last night it involved the slipper skippers...we were about to set off for our annual hali trip & were met at the ramp by the dfo,a group of slipper skippers(aka trolls) along with a few touts(mp's)& butt.cronnies (af)demanding we buy a quota to pay for the right to catch our(Can. ppl) fish...Woke up in a cold sweat ,wife poking me...me yelling "you won't get another red cent outa me" the last thing I remember was a wave of sportsfisherman bearring harpoons/rods steaming out of the harbour towards the fishing grounds...Ironic isn't it today being Canada Day...Happy Canada Day all
...sammy
...sammy
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alwaysfishn
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Why is it a hair brained idea?
Hit em Hard
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sammyslabber
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too bad ya woke up b4 ya saw holmes backing down a 46 footer rite over them and tossing them in the bait hold for use in catching hali, prawns and crab,oopsy daisy,lol
yah,don't worry holmsey your name crossed my mind...besides, pissed off humans are capable of anything...the ball is just starting to pick up speed...when given the chance i tell everyone about our plight...hell even the ones who don't want to listen...take today for example instead of fishing i made a point to head down to the gorge Canada day picnic & bend every ear i could...if that what it takes folks get out there & let people know the rights of every Canadian are being squandered to line the pockets of a chosen few...sammy
alwaysfishn
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I'd accept that as a rational argument, but I've seen how irrational you can be in your hate towards the canucks....
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