Fish Poaching on Fraser

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I saw this several weeks ago, in the Globe & Mail, and was surprised that there was no chatter sbout it on the forum!

MARK HUME | Columnist profile
VANCOUVER— From Monday's Globe and Mail
Published Sunday, May. 22, 2011 7:20PM EDT

He called himself “king of the Fraser River native fishery.” He had 20 guys working for him and could deliver big numbers of salmon.

In a conversation secretly taped by Department of Fisheries and Oceans investigators, he told two U.S. undercover agents posing as American fish buyers that in an average season he could supply 150,000 pounds of sockeye. But if the money was right, and guaranteed in advance, he could get 10 times that amount.
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And that was just sockeye. Chinook, chum and pink salmon could be delivered, too – all taken during periods when native communities were licensed to fish for food, social and ceremonial (FSC) needs.

The Cohen Commission of inquiry into the decline of sockeye salmon in the Fraser River heard last week from DFO enforcement officers, who suggested the FSC fishery is a cover for a lucrative, large-scale black-market operation. They testified that in one investigation they found 345,000 FSC salmon stored in industrial freezers, and that they believed 97 per cent of all FSC fish are sold illegally into the market, not distributed to native people, as intended.

“Most of the first-nations people … we deal with, by far the majority of them, are good people and sometimes those people get led astray. But there is a core group of people out there that simply are in it for themselves,” testified Scott Coultish, regional chief of intelligence and investigation services for DFO.

What the Cohen Commission didn’t hear was any testimony about the meeting between the agents and the “king” of the Fraser River native fishery. Phil Eidsvik, a non-lawyer who is at the hearings representing the BC Fisheries Survival Coalition and the Area D Salmon Gillnet Association, tried to get the transcript entered as evidence, but it was ruled out after a lawyer for a native coalition objected to its relevance.

The transcript, leaked to Mr. Eidsvik by a source he won’t identify, was made in 1989.

It is old, but one of the agents involved in that operation said in an e-mail to The Globe and Mail last week that it remains relevant today, because it gives an inside look at the illegal trade in food fish.

“What kind of chinook volume are we talking about?” one of the agents asked the king, after getting a commitment on sockeye.

“Ah, I would think that around here more than about 20 tonnes,” he said.

Pinks?

“I could probably get about 100,000 pounds pretty easy, “ he said.

The agent said he was interested in chum salmon, too, with fresh eggs, which had high value in the Japanese market.

“No problem with that as long as the price is right,” the king said.

“Do you think maybe … 300,000 pounds total on the chum?” the agent asked.

“Yeah, I think I’ve handled that much before,” he replied.

“Any problem if the payment is only in cash?”

“No, no, that’s, that’s the way I like it,” the king said.

In total he had just offered to supply the buyers with 590,000 pounds of native food fish.

Gail Sparrow, former chief of the Musqueam band, recently complained that many people on her reserve didn’t get their allocation of fish last year, even though 800,000 sockeye were harvested in the Fraser FSC fishery, because, on her reserve at least, most the salmon were taken off reserve by fishermen who illegally sold them.

It is probable the Musqueam fish went to a big dealer, like the king of the Fraser River, who was never charged in 1989, despite the damning nature of the comments he made on tape.

Why was the king never busted?

“We went with the tapes to the Department of Justice and they wouldn’t proceed because of a recent ruling by the Supreme Court, which forbid covert tapes where a police officer was present unless the suspect was aware of the tape being made,” said the former DFO agent. “We also tried to go through the justice system in the USA, but they felt that it was a Canadian problem.”

The Cohen Commission heard that the DFO investigation that found 345,000 FSC salmon in cold storage didn’t go anywhere, because enforcement couldn’t get funding to track the salmon after it left the freezer.

So we don’t know where those fish went. But maybe the king does. Apparently he’s still operating.
 
Well..it's not news for anyone..but I would like to remind all that this is still actively going on.
 
What really browns me is that my business is suffering while the so called conservation measures are in place in 19 and 20. Now it is confirmed that all me and others are doing is letting fish go so they can be taken by organized crime and be sold on the black market. To top it off we still get the same crap from DFO...we have to take the brunt of the conservation measures. Wake the f&ck up, there are no conservation measures when you allow this to go on!!!!!!!!!! One idiot is destroying the ability of hundreds of others to make a living, and thousands of others to enjoy their pastime. Forget shooting the seals, time to get rid of a so called "king".
 
I like it today dfo announced the run size for this year at between 1-12 million. why don't they just say we have now frigging clue how many are coming back this year
 
12 million before the 'King" does his thing then maybe 1 after....but they will call it in stream mortality due to warm water as usual
 
Before people go threatening certain aspects, it would probably do you some fine time defining yourself and your actions, while discovering your rights; prior to stealing the rights of others.

Ding Dong!
 
LOL; learn yours, that is the first step toward freedom. Define yourself and your actions. I won't teach you, but you will find what you need once you start looking.

Ding Dong!
 
Ding Dong don't put words into my mouth. This is not a rant on the native fishery it is a rant against blatant poaching by organized crime. The fact the individual is a native is irrelevant. Are you saying you condone this activity? No one has the right to do what this guy is doing period!
 
profisher; you are being very presumptuous that I was even acknowledging your post. I was not responding to you, but I will now. DFO has no conviction or proof that the individual did anything other than brag to hopefully get a job to supply a fictional entity. Do I condone illegal activity? Read my profile page on this site and then come back and talk to me! Race; don't be an idiot! Everyone has rights, you just refuse to see yours, nor have you made an effort to define yourself or your actions outside of being bound by a license; That is by your choice.

Ding Dong!
 
He always has something to say but says nothing.
 
RVP will never go away.......He makes me think about people with Aids. It never goes away.

Altough the Ding Dong isn't dead...Really now F.A your remark about ppl. with aids is tasteless to say the least.
 
Aids does not go away....You may find my comment tasteless. But I still laugh when I read it.

So called "tasteless" humour is my favourite.... Jim Norton, Louis C.K., Dave Attel. I can laugh at cancer jokes, AIDS jokes, and anything else someone brings up. Dont take life too seriously. Any day you wake up and can either go fishing (or come on here and post) is a good one.
 
So called "tasteless" humour is my favourite.... Jim Norton, Louis C.K., Dave Attel. I can laugh at cancer jokes, AIDS jokes, and anything else someone brings up. Dont take life too seriously. Any day you wake up and can either go fishing (or come on here and post) is a good one.

X2 Agree completely!
 
So called "tasteless" humour is my favourite.... Jim Norton, Louis C.K., Dave Attel. I can laugh at cancer jokes, AIDS jokes, and anything else someone brings up. Dont take life too seriously. Any day you wake up and can either go fishing (or come on here and post) is a good one.

Point taken humour is a powerful cure all...never the less cancer effects all of us!...this i know my wife is fighting breast cancer.
 
Point taken humour is a powerful cure all...never the less cancer effects all of us!...this i know my wife is fighting breast cancer.

Sorry to hear that Sammy, and my prayers are with you and yours! Just keep positive, and no offense meant to anyone. Sometimes though its easier to laugh about these topics rather than deal with them as I learned first hand. Lost my fiance a few years ago to cancer, so I know firsthand its nothing to take lightly. But I learned one thing, never take life for granted and live every moment to the max!

Mike
 
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