Finally, they figured it out. Not enough food in the ocean!

[wildmanyeah]

So your saying gray whales are declining because there isn't herring? Seems far fetched.

He left out the next paragraph on purpose lol




The gray whale population has plunged 24% along the West Coast since the last estimate in 2016, estimates released Tuesday show.

The population of eastern north Pacific gray whales decreased by more than 6,000 whales, from 26,960 in 2016 to 20,580 estimated from counts made during the whales’ southbound migration in the winter of 2019-20, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Southwest Fisheries Science Center in San Diego.

The population has been increasing overall since counting began in 1967, when only 13,426 of the mighty grays were counted.

 

[wildmanyeah]

In fact you could say maybe there was more herring in 1967 because there was half as many grey whales lol

 

[gone fishin]

So your saying gray whales are declining because there isn't herring? Seems far fetched.

give me a break!!!!
It was you who stated
"why are whales and other marine life not crashing"
and I pointed out a fact.
All I am saying is Chinook, Coho and Pinks eat Herring!!

 

[SpringVelocity]

In fact you could say maybe there was more herring in 1967 because there was half as many grey whales lol

Good one.

 

[gone fishin]

Good one.

When Wildman and SpringVelocity start their thread on Herring stocks in 1967 you might just as well start with these facts.
Herring stocks in 1967 were at an all time low!
But then again Herring and Whales is their subject so go for it guys.
This thread is about food for salmon and do Salmon eat Herring?

 

[wildmanyeah]

When Wildman and SpringVelocity start their thread on Herring stocks in 1967 you might just as well start with these facts.
Herring stocks in 1967 were at an all time low!
But then again Herring and Whales is their subject so go for it guys.
This thread is about food for salmon and do Salmon eat Herring?
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so what your saying is the herring population is better the. It was 50 years ago and now have totally contradicted your original statement lol.

glade we can put the herring crash to bed lol

 

[wildmanyeah]

I am simply saying there has been a significant decline in herring in the area's I have fished Chinook in for over 50 years.

lol

 

[SpringVelocity]

Thank wildman I am not understanding these posts either...

 

[agentaqua]

Well Chinook are the most likely species to be affected by herring shortages as adults that eat forage fishes - but there are also many choices in that department, also: sand lance, Pacific Sandfish, smelts, etc. A VHS outbreak that kills off forage fishes locally (which has happened - esp. in Alaska after the Valdez disaster) would have quite a impact.

However, if sea lions were a factor keeping already low herring stocks - low - due to their large #s today - they would also be a factor eating returning adult Chinook & chum - which they are.