Buying a boat in Washington State

Bag-Juan

Well-Known Member
I know we've been through this before, but does anyone know the procedure for buying and bringing back a boat,motor and trailer back from Seattle area. I know prices are close to here, but I just sold my Double Eagle on the weekend and have my eye on something in the Wash. State. Do I have to pay their state tax? What about insurance to bring back? I've made some calls and it seems getting it across the border is the easy part as long as the trailer checks out and has a 17 didget vin. number. I believe I will be buying private. I'm not sure how there transfer forms work, but if I have to pay tax should it just be on the trailer value? Seems like there system is set up a little different than ours so any info would be much apreciated. Thanks guys!

... Are fishermen all liars?
Or do only liars fish?
 
You pay pst and gst at the border crossing...
(no state tax.)which is based on the selling price of the package.
you will need your bill of sale and a copy of your bank draft.
you need to get temporary insurance on the trailer which
must be inspected and certified on your arrival back in Canada.
(Canadian Tire can do it)

P.S.
(I have not done this personally, but gained this from
a few friends who have done it.)
 
Some states do require purchasers to pay a tax on the sale. This may apply to both trailer and boat. Check with the vendor before. I bought my boat in California and had to have the vendor submit tax exemption forms that proved I was exporting the boat out of the state of California or I was going to be taxed. Washington may be different but I'd check.

Matador
 
I bought my Seasport in Wash...it was a new dealer purchase...didn't pay state tax, however the dealer had to submit paperwork indicating the boat was leaving the country.
 
Have title to both boat and trailer hand written reciepts so the guy's at the border can match signature, bank transfer/draft, it is almost painless, pay PST/GST on the full amount. If he owes money to the bank they will have title which is a bit of a pain in the butt but they will send it to you and you can at least take the boat and leave it at the border in one of the storage yards and go and pick it up after you recieve it, any questions about the last part feel free to contact me.
 
Don't forget to get a trip permit from the local DMV.
Bought a boat privately from Seattle and don't remember having to pay any taxes, and why would you when you don't live there?
$25 for the transit permit, that was it.
Get the bill of sale, and both original titles for the boat and trailer. If you're bringing it to VI I would bring it through Port Angeles, the customs ppl. are a lot nicer to deal with.
good luck

JUST FISHEN'
 
Ba-Juan--Here are instructions that I copied from someone a year or so back on this site--thanks to whoever it was.

Here's a handy link to The Registrar of Imported Vehicles:
http://www.riv.ca/english/html/how_to_import.html
These people are quite informative (and they are in the office until 8:00 pm
our time, which makes it easier to get in touch. I reccomend you give them a
call.

The process at the border was quite painless. Took about 45 minutes. Customs
was helpful and knowledgeable! BUT, that came about because I had done the
research ahead of time, phoned them (and RIV) and had ALL the paperwork. I
emphasize this because, while I was there, they did turn around and send
back to the US another guy because he didn't have enough paper - bills of
sale and the like. (This was at the Truck Crossing by the Peace Arch.)

The process I went through was:

1. Make the deal and buy the boat, after mechanical check by a mechanic and
a sea trial.

2. I had discussed the potential purchase with my insurance agent and
obtained the necessary forms for insurance coverage on the boat. I completed
the forms with required info, e.g., the boats HIN - hull identification
number, length, etc., and faxed the form to the agent.

3. Because I was in Tacoma and relatively close to the border, I drove back
to White Rock and obtained a bank draft to pay the vendor. I also purchased
from an ICBC agent a "binder" policy on the trailer to provide temporary
insurance and licensing in BC (about 30.00). You may be able to buy this
'binder policy' over the phone from your ICBC agent from wherever you make
the purchase. Check with an agent.

4. Returned to Washington and bought a "transit permit" from the State
Department of Motor Vehicles to allow me to use the trailer in Washington.
If you buy in Oregon, my understanding is that you would need to get a
"transit permit" from both Oregon and Washington. I think it was about
24.00. You can find info on their State DMV websites. The only thing they
asked for was my drivers license and the 24.00, didn't matter if it was a
trailer or a car.

US Customs requires you to declare when you bring in more than $10,000.00
US. When I went back down I declared the bank draft to the guy in the booth, but,
because it was payable to the vendor and had not been endorsed, he didn't
consider it to be a negotiable instrument. Doesn't hurt to declare it and
even if they change their minds and want a paper trail, it's only a 5 minute
deal.

5. Return to border with boat and trailer:
Have title papers, for boat and trailer. In Washington they have a form for
the boat license that is an 'official' document. It has to be signed off by
the owner.
The trailer will have it's own official title papers, which again has to be
signed off by the owner.
Make sure you get these and that they are signed off.

Bills of Sale. You will require two.
The first should cover the boat, motor, and any other gear attached to the
boat (radio, depth sounder, downriggers etc.).
The second bill of sale is for the trailer only.

At the border Customs will charge you the GST and PST on the value of the
boat plus the GST on the value of the trailer. They will also charge you a
fee of $209.00 for the vehicle inspection. Yup, it adds up. The only good
thing I can say is they take Visa or Mastercard.

Although I wasn't asked for it, I have heard of people being asked to
document the actual payment made for the boat/trailer purchase. This would
be covered by having a copy of the bank draft or whatever that you issued to
the seller as well as the bill of sale. Presumably they reserve this in case somebody tries to lowball
them on the purchase price to reduce the GST/PST (which I admit I thought of
doing, but decided against even trying believing the importing process would
be fraught with enough difficulty, and also did not want an insurance hassle
in case something did happen on my way home).

Once home the RIV sent me a form - which, when I had not received it after a
week, I phoned them and they e-mailed it to me. Take this form, plus your
other papers and the trailer, to a Canadian Tire store (they have the
exclusive contract for vehicle inspections) for a 15 minute check over. Make
sure reflectors are all in place, they don't care if the lights work as long
as the reflectors are in place. They also check the VIN number on the
trailer, manufacturer's load rating, and tire rating and a couple other
items. Not a problem to pass. No charge at Cdn Tire, but you already paid
RIV 209.00 for the inspection.

Once Canadian Tire gives you a pass and the appropriate paperwork, you can
then go to an ICBC agent and get licence plates for the trailer. At this
time you pay the PST on the trailer.

You also have to trot off to "Service Canada" (Blanshard Street), who, as of
April 4th, are taking over boat registration from Canada Customs. Surprise,
no charge for registering the boat. They issue the 14K number.

If you buy a boat, 1999 or older and it has a 'factory' trailer, it may be
a Calkins trailer. One of the requirements of importing the trailer is that
you have a Recall Clearance Letter from the manufacturer. Unfortunately
Calkins went out of business in 1999. What I did was do a Google search for
Calkins Trailers and you should turn up a story from the Spokane Journal of
Commerce (from 1999) about Calkins closing up. I printed this and included
it in my paper package. When I got to Cdn Tire for the inspection they ask
for the Recall Clearance Letter. I had them call RIV for a recall clearance
letter Waiver form, which they immediately faxed to Cdn Tire. I filled the
form out, attached the news story I had printed out, added that I had done
web and phone book searches but was unable to contact Calkins. This
satisfies everybody.

Try to make sure the Manufacturer's decal with load capacity and VIN number
are still attached to the trailer. I'm not sure what the procedure would be
if they are missing.

To keep the paper trail clean, double check to make sure the VIN on the
trailer and the HIN on the boat are correctly recorded on the owners title
papers and bills of sale.

I think I hit all the bases, but I would suggest you talk to Canadian
Customs, Registrar of Imported Vehicles, and insurance agent before setting
out. I found them all to be helpful, and importing boats and trailers into
Canada is not unfamiliar to them.

For making payment in the US I would talk to your bank. I couldn't come up
with a simpler - or safer - method than as I described above. If you
purchase the US Funds before you go, then decide not to make the purchase
when you try the boat, you are then stuck with a large amount of US money
which you may have to sit on or sell back to the bank (at a loss of 4-5%).

I was dealing with a private seller so as part of the deal he agreed to
deliver the boat to me in Blaine, which cut down my travel time a lot.
Perhaps you could make a similar arrangement to get it delivered at least
partways. Or, if you are buying from a boat dealer, perhaps they can be more
accomodating (put it all on Visa?).

I'm looking at doing the same thing as you (right down to selling my doble eagle first!)so good luck.
T2


No Rigours
 
Thanks for the replys guys, I think I've got it more or less figuerd out. I haven't negociated a final price yet, I wanted to see the boat up close first. I guess I'l have to get a draft made up down there, after the price is finalized. Hopefully I can do it all in one day. Should be interesting-- it's all good! Thanks again!

... Are fishermen all liars?
Or do only liars fish?
 
quote:Originally posted by Tsquared
That is still pretty accurate!
The state has raised the cost a little on the “trip permits”. They are around $30. You should “legally” stop at a Department of Motor Vehicles office and get a “trip permit”, but they can and do get crowded during the end of the month, so plan for that.

I can also pre-warn you! If you believe you are going drive down on a Saturday or Sunday, give someone a personal check/draft or a cashier’s check/draft from any bank or credit union and drive off with your new boat - that just might NOT happen? Make sure you check with the seller and ask what types of funds are acceptable and what you need to provide to drive off. Wire transfers are very easy and fast? Be care on trying to get that done and confirmed on Sundays! You can also thank all the internet and east coast “scams” for that one!

Plus just so you know, if you decide to bring cash. US$10,000 is the number and it not only has to be declared at the border, but also any transaction has to be reported directly to the Federal Government by any dealership, which also provides all your personal information.
 
what about a gift my friend in california is giving me a g3 jon boat and trailer we are meeting up in eugene oregon this weekend
 
Yeah, you really have to have the whole money thing figured out. Looks like you better be getting a pretty decent deal on the boat. All that extra expence sure starts to add up!!

... Are fishermen all liars?
Or do only liars fish?
 
Thanks K45, witch border crossing did you use?

... Are fishermen all liars?
Or do only liars fish?
 
K45, If the trailer was US registered, how did you deal with the licensing and insurance once you crossed the border into Canada in order to drive it from the border to your home?

Matador
 
If you buy a boat out of any state south of Washington and plan on towing it through on I-5, I would do a couple of things - if I were you? I would make sure the boat is clean of any barnacles, especially “Zebra and Quagga Mussels”. Plus, make sure you are a legal tow, with a current registration for the trailer or trip permit. Washington is starting to get real serious about the transfer of aquatic invasive species and has started an inspection program for northbound boats coming across the Oregon border.

“OLYMPIA - As part of an ongoing effort to keep aquatic invasive species out of Washington waters, all northbound vehicles transporting watercraft past the Ridgefield weigh station on Interstate 5 will be required to stop for an inspection Friday, Sept. 25. Sgt. Eric Anderson, WDFW enforcement coordinator for the program, said signs will be posted notifying motorists of the inspection at the weigh station at Milepost 18, a key entry point for out-of-state boaters. The inspections can usually be completed in 10 minutes, Anderson said. But failure to stop for an inspection can result in a citation. “
 
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