Islandgirl
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Any truth to the rumor that the guides and lodges are going to attempt to get halibut changed to 1 day/ and 1 in possession to keep the season open longer?
Any truth to the Rumor...
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Englishman
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Try reading the "Halibut - What do you want" thread. All the arguments for this, pros and cons are in there.
Very interesting thread BTW and pull of clearly stated and valuable points of view. Very complex situation.......
Very interesting thread BTW and pull of clearly stated and valuable points of view. Very complex situation.......
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Islandgirl
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I was away in Cuba, and just finished catching up on .orgs melting pot, Lorne Parkers melting pot and wicked things....
and I thought I was done catching up!
and I thought I was done catching up!
SerengetiGuide
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I think this is a very silly idea, even as a lodge. I rather have 1 - 2 until mid August than 1 - 1 till mid september...
Islandgirl
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Finaddict and Serengetiguide, I agree with you both.
I sure hope this proposal (idea?) by a few has not been brought forward.
It seems to me that it will only benefit a select few.
Getting the rec fishermans limit back up to 2/3 Or 2/2 would do way more for the guide business than anything else.
I sure hope this proposal (idea?) by a few has not been brought forward.
It seems to me that it will only benefit a select few.
Getting the rec fishermans limit back up to 2/3 Or 2/2 would do way more for the guide business than anything else.
Islandgirl
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This is a good idea too..write them on your lic.
This alone may extend the season, so the guides will be happy.
Just dont cut our possession limit to benefit a few!
Islandgirl
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lots of reading to do yet Islegirl, looking forward to your thoughts and opinions, welcome back to paradise btw.....holmes*
Hi Holmes, thanks for the wecome back.
Sometimes I feel I am in a country just like Cuba where a "few" control the fate of many to benefit their own wallet.
This was my 5th trip to Cuba, and the similarities between the countries grows clearer in my eyes.
Maybe that is age?
Pretty saddened with what is going on with halibut/ guides/ and 1/1 proposal.
I really thought we were past self serving interests.
I don't think a yearly limit would do squat. Most rec guys don't take a lot, it's manly lodge guests coming in, taking posession,and leaving. However, if an annual limit would keep our season open, and my loose guess on the numbers is right, I have one statement to make as a guide:
BRING IT
BRING IT
Gunsmith
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As long as they don't leave with more than two.
hambone
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Sorry for going a little off topic here, but I am curious about how most people view halibut fishing in general. How many of us continue to C&R hali's once their boats limit/s have been reached?? Are there people out there that enjoy fishing for halibut without keeping any??
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Islandgirl
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I don't know of anyone that C& R halis..
I dont catch and release any fish unless it is not legal to keep..ie wild salmon and require a hatchery.
Just does not seem 'right' to me.. but I do not judge those that do it.
lorneparker1
Banned
Not me. Dont get me worng I love the fight of a hali. But when i am jigging and my halis are caught, I will jig for ling. And when thats done i am done(although i catn think of a time when i caught my hali before my ling lol.. The idea of jigging in 150 feet of water with a 2 pound ball for ***** and giggles isnt exactly anything i would call fun! I especially love reeling in .5 lb rock fish from that depth with that weight.
Dave S
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I support this completely! Anyone that is opposed to this is hiding something.
Fish-Hunter
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I am sorry to say Islandgirl, that because this is a public forum, and the idea was publicly dicussed and mentioned on this forum, that it has indeed been "brought forward". Hopefully the decision makers missed it or do as they most often do - NOTHING AT ALL!
I don't believe that reducing the daily/possesion limits will do anything to "extend the season", because DFO at any moment during the season can say that the rec sector has attained their portion of the TAC and close the rec season, and there is,,, or rather will be nothing that we can do about it because we don't have any solid data to dispute how much they say we catch.
In fact reduced daily/possesion limits will do nothing to protect the biomass, as we will still try to fish to the limit of the rec TAC for the season. It will most likely reduce the number of hali clients that the guides will attain because I am sure that fewer clients will spend the extra for Hailbut excursions for less catch potential. It will however increase the openings for client bookings for the guides, but by how much? How much extra season would the DFO extend? (My guess, if they even entertained it at all, would be a month or so,,,,). I agree fully that the 2/2 or the 2/3 limits would definately do more for improving the guides businesses, drawing in more potential clients for them.
This is exactly what the DFO and the commercial sector have been hoping for and designing for several years now.
- Divide and Conquer.
- Keep reducing the rec season each year tightening the screws on us.
- Reduce the rec catch limits, each year increasing the pressure on the rec sector.
To eventually get some of us to cave in and suggest that it would be "alright" to take even futher reductions in daily/possesion limits in order to "extend" the duration of the season.
Once "we" have agreed to reduced limits, the next year the season will most likely be reduced in length again (and yes the previously accepted reduced limits will still remain in play), and the excuse that we will receive is that we "went over again on our TAC". And we will still have no way of disputing or arguing the point, because there are no real, concrete, and factual numbers to show how much Halibut we catch.
We must remain united, and not let short-sighted greed errode the whole process. We just got them to make an adjustment to the Recreational TAC, now we have to keep up the pressure, whether it is politcal or legal pressure or both. Precedent has now been set, the TAC can be adjusted, and still needs to be adjusted further to better represent the needs of the Rec sector.
My two bits.
FH
Just for the record, my belief in an annual halibut limit has nothing much to do with the quota system or any perceived DFO politics to squeeze us into less and less and never give it back....it is purely about common sense and a realistic approach as to how much fish any one person needs. If someone can't be totally happy with keeping 10 nice hali (per licensed family member) for the freezer each year...like Dave says..what are you hiding? If you really enjoy hali fishing and want to fish them often...keep your 10 then pinch off the barbs and have fun as often as you want. I
scott craven
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I also agree with an annual limit, the only down side i see is the numbers of chickens that wil be dragged up and thrown back damaged
in search of a bigger one.
in search of a bigger one.
