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That's because they already explained the plan moving into an endemic. Hinshaw stated that case will jump until mid September & then start to burn out. I'm glad they are not listening to the screaming Karen's and self taught virologist. This 4th wave has to cycle and burn its self out. If it dosen't go as planned at least we are not repeating the same thing over and over again.

AB cases are about 10-15% higher than BC. The sky is not falling. Also AB has less pepole in ICU then BC. (Not that it matters).
You might want to read this from the Calgary Herald.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/loca...ants-to-see-accelerated-case-rate-of-covid-19

Cases are doubling every 14 days and the last 3 days have been over 1000 per day. Expect some kind of restrictions soon.
 
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Working Saturday? Hope they pay you overtime…Lol
I'm retired so no but these guys do and you know you've effed up something fierce when the Sun is calling you out.

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One of my tenants is in the hospital right now. She's 24. Can't breath and had Covid over two weeks ago. Scary stuff.
 
That's because they already explained the plan moving into an endemic. Hinshaw stated that case will jump until mid September & then start to burn out. I'm glad they are not listening to the screaming Karen's and self taught virologist. This 4th wave has to cycle and burn its self out. If it dosen't go as planned at least we are not repeating the same thing over and over again.

AB cases are about 10-15% higher than BC. The sky is not falling. Also AB has less pepole in ICU then BC. (Not that it matters).
Now a word from the "screaming Karen's and self taught virologist" at... stand by... checks notes, Dr. Paul Parks president of Section of Emergency Medicine, Alberta Medical Association; this piece is co-signed by the entire Section of Emergency Medicine executive, representing all health regions in Alberta.

Parks: Hospital care at critical junction with staff shortages, bed closures​

Aug 28, 2021
Every day, health-care teams across the province carefully manage hospital beds to ensure Albertans get the care they need and deserve. This resource management can be difficult at optimal times. As every Albertan is aware, the last year or more has been anything but optimal. Staffing shortages, increased patient volumes, and a long, drawn-out, highly infectious pandemic are making the challenge of acute care “bed” management more and more challenging by the day.

To properly address this challenge, Albertans must understand what goes into making a functional care space, or what is frequently referred to as a “bed.” Many provincial leaders continue to state that there are no bed shortages in Alberta. If they are merely referring to physical beds or patient care spaces, then technically they may be correct. However, much more goes into a hospital care space than merely the physical bed itself. Each “bed” is only useful because of the human resources available to staff that bed; this includes nurses, doctors, respiratory therapists, porters, unit clerks, cleaning staff, and so on.

Unfortunately, Alberta is facing a dramatic shortage of frontline health-care workers, the most concerning of which is the number of nurses available to work in acute care settings. The ongoing staffing shortage is not isolated to emergency departments (EDs) but extends to intensive care units, medical and surgical wards, and all corners of the health-care system. Hospitals routinely function where even the reduction of one care space can impact safe and timely care delivery for many patients. Patient safety always comes first, so when unsafe staff-to-patient ratios are approached, the safest thing to do is to reduce bed capacity, even though the physical bed is still there.

Let us be clear — this degree of bed closures in our province is not typical. Prolonged closures of emergency department beds in the largest centres in the province is not optimal or routine. Cancellation of elective surgeries because of a closure of both operating rooms and post-operative beds is not standard operating procedure. The intermittent closure of multiple rural emergency departments and hospitals due to doctor and nursing shortages is not normal.

Frontline health-care staff have had the most challenging 18 months of their careers. They are facing increasing burnout and are plagued with the moral injury that comes with surviving this pandemic in the trenches. They are leaving. Whether they’re leaving the province, leaving acute care medicine, or leaving their careers altogether, the effect is the same. We have a staffing shortage that is having a real and concerning impact on bed closures. Those that are continuing to work are working exponentially harder to care for patients and keep their units afloat.

In emergency departments across Alberta, the data shows a rise in wait times, and unfortunately, many more patients leave without being seen by a doctor. Our patient volumes have increased to levels above what we were seeing before the pandemic. Demand for the health-care system is growing, which, in the face of worsening bed closures, is leading to increasing access block.

Unfortunately, many other factors will worsen access block in the months to come. Access to primary care and changes in virtual care continue to put increasing strains on emergency departments. Most virtual care options, such as Telus Health MyCare, almost always use the “safe answer” of sending patients to emergency, which has implications not only on overloading the ED but also on inefficient use of taxpayer dollars.

Furthermore, we are well into the fourth wave of the COVID-19 pandemic. As Alberta insists on winding down its public health measures, including testing centres, we will not only see a wave of hospitalizations but also patients coming in for COVID-19 testing. The ED is the last place an otherwise well person, who simply and reasonably needs a COVID-19 test, should be sent.

Access block has widespread implications across the entire health system. Emergency departments are the entry point into the acute care system for every single Albertan. When the ED is blocked and overwhelmed, every patient who needs care waits longer. From surgery for appendicitis to treating your broken ankle to getting rapid access to care if you’re having a stroke or heart attack, receiving timely care for every patient is affected when EDs are under-resourced. This is the definition of access block, and it’s a big problem that will only continue to worsen.

The system is strained, plain and simple. The bed closures our system is currently facing are having a palpable impact on access to timely care in Alberta. ED wait times are longer, surgeries are being cancelled, diagnoses are delayed. This is a problem now. The first step to fixing the problem is acknowledging that it exists, and then collectively working towards a solution.

Despite these significant challenges, health-care workers across the system continue to show up and are ready to care for you in your time of need. But we cannot do it alone. We need the government and health-care leaders to stop downplaying the challenges and instead work with the profession on solutions. We need Albertans to continue to advocate for a robust health-care system and to do what they can to mitigate the ongoing pandemic — vaccinations, physical distancing, masks, and hand washing all help immensely. The time to work collectively is now.

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/c...al-junction-with-staff-shortages-bed-closures
 
One of my tenants is in the hospital right now. She's 24. Can't breath and had Covid over two weeks ago. Scary stuff.
Was she vaccinated or is this just Darwin taking care of business?
 
Was she vaccinated or is this just Darwin taking care of business?
All due respect , I think you have it totally wrong here : natural selection or Darwin theory says that the strongest , the smartest of the species will survive : the weak , less smart ,old and sick will disappear . The theory states this is a NATURAL process , no artificial factors being involved ( vaccines in our case)

That would explain why the ones less confident about themselves , the ones that know they are not the smartest and the old and sick from the human specie feel the desperate need to be helped ( vaccinated for example). They know they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing.
 

They sold us that vaccine were the way out of this pandemic and now listening to the radio today some experts are saying masks and measures could be with us for years.

thers been some competing science if booster are a practical long term strategy. Not to mention does it make sence to give boosters to wealthy nations while some poorer ones have low rates. Therefor slowing unchecked circulation and potential for more variants.
 
They sold us that vaccine were the way out of this pandemic and now listening to the radio today some experts are saying masks and measures could be with us for years.

thers been some competing science if booster are a practical long term strategy. Not to mention does it make sence to give boosters to wealthy nations while some poorer ones have low rates. Therefor slowing unchecked circulation and potential for more variants.
The vaccine passport to expire 6 months after the last dose ? So we need to take a vaccine every 6 months if we want to see our kids/ parents ?!?!
Just curious: anybody here that would agree with this ?
 
They sold us that vaccine were the way out of this pandemic and now listening to the radio today some experts are saying masks and measures could be with us for years.

thers been some competing science if booster are a practical long term strategy. Not to mention does it make sence to give boosters to wealthy nations while some poorer ones have low rates. Therefor slowing unchecked circulation and potential for more variants.
I’m personally fairly confident that vaccinations have helped slow the virus a lot
 
All due respect , I think you have it totally wrong here : natural selection or Darwin theory says that the strongest , the smartest of the species will survive : the weak , less smart ,old and sick will disappear . The theory states this is a NATURAL process , no artificial factors being involved ( vaccines in our case)

That would explain why the ones less confident about themselves , the ones that know they are not the smartest and the old and sick from the human specie feel the desperate need to be helped ( vaccinated for example). They know they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing.

The smartest of the species will survive, well that makes it easy.

I think we can all agree that Medical School is one of the more difficult post graduate programs to gain admission to, but let's take the Doctors out of the equation, even though 96% of them were vaccinated


Incidentally, "of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated".

Based on your assertion then 96% of doctors " know they are not the smartest and ......... feel the desperate need to be helped ( vaccinated for example).

You went on to write that "They (insert doctors) know they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing." This is of course true because they (Doctors along with all of the other medical staff, Nurses, Medical Technicians) knowingly put themselves into Harm's Way to care for the sick, dying and recovering knowing that their Colleagues in Science were working around the clock to develop a Cure/Vaccine.

So let's look at education and vaccination rates.

New findings from the Understanding Coronavirus in America survey reveal that when it comes to attitudes and beliefs about the COVID-19 vaccine — from willingness to get the vaccine to knowing someone who has been vaccinated to the perceived risks of side effects — there is a substantial gap between more- and less-educated U.S. residents.

Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree. That’s a change from earlier in the pandemic, when level of education played less of a role in people’s willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

Now this comes from a USC Study done in February of this year, before President Biden had fully engaged his Vaccination program so people had to actively search to be vaccinated.


Of course as vaccination rates have increased there are pockets of people who are defined as well educated but who are resisting vaccinations.

A good example would be "educated" white Texans. Proving again that educated does not necessarily mean smart and that boosts your straw man argument.

You wrote , "That would explain why the ones less confident about themselves , the ones that know they are not the smartest and the old and sick from the human specie feel the desperate need to be helped ( vaccinated for example). They know they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing."

This is dangerous talk. History has taught us that on more than one occasion in the last hundred years that

"they are not the smartest and the old and sick from the human specie.... and they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing."

Nature in many cases has been mankind all its' glory,

I have been to the sites on three continents where people were disappeared because they were not the smartest, too old , too sick, and desperately need to be helped ( read saved from persecution) . This is a dangerous path for anyone to walk down.
 
I’m personally fairly confident that vaccinations have helped slow the virus a lot

oh I was not questioning the efficacy of the vaccine it’s highly effective.

I just think it’s getting old that a year and half into this were back to bend the curve so the hospitals don’t get over run.
 
oh I was not questioning the efficacy of the vaccine it’s highly effective.

I just think it’s getting old that a year and half into this were back to bend the curve so the hospitals don’t get over run.
Seriously. All this money being spent (or not collected), at what point does it become more cost effective to just build a temp hospital and pay for the overtime and training for people to run 1000 new ventilators. Did anyone actually believe this was almost over?
 
Seriously. All this money being spent (or not collected), at what point does it become more cost effective to just build a temp hospital and pay for the overtime and training for people to run 1000 new ventilators. Did anyone actually believe this was almost over?
But there’s already a shortage of doctors and nurses. How would that work?
 
But there’s already a shortage of doctors and nurses. How would that work?
No idea. But they certainly should start getting ahead of that issue now because it's not getting any better.
 
The smartest of the species will survive, well that makes it easy.

I think we can all agree that Medical School is one of the more difficult post graduate programs to gain admission to, but let's take the Doctors out of the equation, even though 96% of them were vaccinated


Incidentally, "of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated".

Based on your assertion then 96% of doctors " know they are not the smartest and ......... feel the desperate need to be helped ( vaccinated for example).

You went on to write that "They (insert doctors) know they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing." This is of course true because they (Doctors along with all of the other medical staff, Nurses, Medical Technicians) knowingly put themselves into Harm's Way to care for the sick, dying and recovering knowing that their Colleagues in Science were working around the clock to develop a Cure/Vaccine.

So let's look at education and vaccination rates.

New findings from the Understanding Coronavirus in America survey reveal that when it comes to attitudes and beliefs about the COVID-19 vaccine — from willingness to get the vaccine to knowing someone who has been vaccinated to the perceived risks of side effects — there is a substantial gap between more- and less-educated U.S. residents.

Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree. That’s a change from earlier in the pandemic, when level of education played less of a role in people’s willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

Now this comes from a USC Study done in February of this year, before President Biden had fully engaged his Vaccination program so people had to actively search to be vaccinated.


Of course as vaccination rates have increased there are pockets of people who are defined as well educated but who are resisting vaccinations.

A good example would be "educated" white Texans. Proving again that educated does not necessarily mean smart and that boosts your straw man argument.

You wrote , "That would explain why the ones less confident about themselves , the ones that know they are not the smartest and the old and sick from the human specie feel the desperate need to be helped ( vaccinated for example). They know they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing."

This is dangerous talk. History has taught us that on more than one occasion in the last hundred years that

"they are not the smartest and the old and sick from the human specie.... and they would be the first ones to disappear if we leave the nature to do it’s thing."

Nature in many cases has been mankind all its' glory,

I have been to the sites on three continents where people were disappeared because they were not the smartest, too old , too sick, and desperately need to be helped ( read saved from persecution) . This is a dangerous path for anyone to walk down.
I think you’ve got me wrong ! Far from me to agree to leave the weak people suffer or disappear! That would be totally against humanity. Just saying that Darwin theory has nothing to do with human intervention and if we would not intervene ( vaccination in this case) the weakest from us would be the first ones to go
 
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