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ryanb said:
I do send my kids to school. Between the strike here on the island last year, and covid they already missed half of last school year. Kids need school...it's an integral part of our society and we can't just NOT do it. It could be months, years, or decades until this crisis is behind us...we can't wait our way out of it.
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I was not disputing that fact. I was nearly supporting the parents that are apprehensive about sending their kids back to school givin the guidelines the health authorities have been pushing with regards to social distancing these last many month.
 
StormTrooper:
"It is bad enough fighting the pandemic of our generation, coping with all the uncertainty, and protecting our families and our communities without having to fight yet another battle with deniers, hoaxers and conspiracy theorists. They are among us and they are dangerous." - Alan Drummond - Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians
 
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Province introduces new measures to enforce COVID-19 public safety
August 21, 2020


Police and other provincial enforcement officers are being given the ability to issue $2,000 violation tickets for owners or organizers contravening the provincial health officer’s (PHO) order on gatherings and events.

They will also be able to issue $200 violation tickets to individuals not following the direction of police or enforcement staff at events or who refuse to comply with requests to follow PHO orders or safe operating procedures, or respond with abusive behaviour.

Effective immediately, these new measures are enacted under the provincial state of emergency, using the extraordinary powers of the Emergency Program Act (EPA) in ongoing support of B.C.’s COVID-19 response and Restart Plan.

“These orders will help us put a stop to the selfish acts of a small minority of British Columbians, who are threatening to erode the progress our province has made in controlling COVID-19,” said Mike Farnworth, Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General. “While I’m disappointed these measures are now necessary, I am taking this action to give police agencies and provincial enforcement officers the ability to take action against those who are putting people’s lives at risk.”

In addition to enabling action from police, the Province is enlisting compliance and enforcement staff from provincial ministries to support enforcement and help issue tickets for the duration of the COVID-19 pandemic. This includes liquor, cannabis and gaming inspectors, community safety unit inspectors and conservation officers.

“As a regional federation of local governments, we welcome these new measures, and we look forward to collaborating with the Province to ensure a co-ordinated and thoughtful response to COVID-19,” said Linda Buchanan, vice-chair, Metro Vancouver board of directors. “Metro Vancouver will continue its critical role as a convener on ideas and strategies for preventing the spread of COVID-19 in our region and supporting the Province in keeping COVID-19 at bay."

The enforcement focus will be on $2,000 fines to owners, operators and organizers for contraventions of the provincial health officer’s order on gatherings and events. This includes hosting a private party or public event in excess of 50 people, failing to provide appropriate hand sanitation and washroom facilities, failing to provide sufficient space in the venue for physical distancing, failing to obtain a list of names and contacts at large event or having more than five guests gathered in a vacation accommodation.

When required, police and other provincial enforcement officers will also be able to actively enforce the order and ticket a series of other infractions, including:

  • $200 violation tickets for individuals who actively encourage others to attend gatherings or events that do not comply with established requirements, or refuse to leave or disperse when directed to do so by enforcement officers; and,
  • $200 violation tickets for individuals who refuse to comply with requests to follow the PHO order or safe operating procedures of a restaurant, bar or other licensed establishment, or respond with abusive behaviour towards employees.
Violation tickets expand the Province’s enforcement toolkit to support the COVID-19 response. Police and other provincial enforcement officers will independently exercise discretion to issue tickets for Emergency Program Act order violations under the Offence Act’s Violation Ticket Administration and Fines Regulation.

If violation tickets do not act as a deterrent, or in cases of particularly egregious contraventions or for repeat offenders, police can recommend charges in relation to the offence. On conviction, judicial penalties of up to $10,000 may be levied.

“ABLE BC is pleased to see the Province step up compliance and enforcement during this recent surge in COVID-19 cases, and we’re happy to assist where we can,” said Jeff Guignard, executive director of the Alliance of Beverage Licensees. “Our primary concern continues to be the health and safety of both patrons and workers in British Columbia.”

Working in partnership with local governments and other agencies, a comprehensive and integrated compliance and enforcement regime is being built to manage the recent surge in COVID-19 cases. These violation tickets build on existing tools, such as the ability to suspend or revoke the business or liquor licenses of problematic operators.

Quick Facts:

  • The specifics around orders of the PHO, including the numbers allowable at gatherings, will continue to be set at the direction of the PHO.
  • To report concerns around order violations from event organizers, venues or individuals, contact your local government’s bylaw office. Local bylaw officers can help followup on concerns and engage the Unified Command Centre, police departments, health officers and WorkSafeBC as necessary. If unable to reach a local bylaw office, contact your local police department’s non-emergency line.
  • An additional measure in this Emergency Program Act order is the requirement for compliance and enforcement agencies (i.e., police departments, local authorities) to report on these activities when requested.
Learn More:

For recommendations on protecting yourself and your community, including for employers, businesses, schools and those planning events for fewer than 50 people, visit: http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/coronavirus-(novel)

For a list of provincial health officer orders, visit: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...rent-health-topics/covid-19-novel-coronavirus

For more information on non-medical issues like travel recommendations and how to manage social isolation, visit: www.gov.bc.ca/COVID-19

Learn more about B.C.'s economic recovery planning: http://gov.bc.ca/recoveryideas

For information on BC's Restart Plan, visit: www.gov.bc.ca/RestartBC

Learn more about industry-specific guidance and resources: https://www.worksafebc.com/en/about-us/covid-19-updates/covid-19-returning-safe-operation

For information on federal and provincial government supports available to individuals, families, businesses and organizations, visit: www.gov.bc.ca/covidgovernmentbenefits

For more information and latest medical updates on COVID-19, follow the BC Centre for Disease Control on Twitter @CDCofBC or visit its website: http://www.bccdc.ca

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2020PSSG0046-001568
 
StormTrooper said:
It a comparative graph sharing overall deaths over the same time period in US from CDC. Interesting how in other testing data that shares high volumes of infection, however the death rate is substantially dwindling away. Thankfully.
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Nonsense ... this graph is from the gateway pundit, not the CDC, and meant to deceive you into thinking that covid-19 is not that bad and according to this graph it's gone down to near zero. Complete utter ******** but expected from RWNJ website. The truth is that currently covid deaths in the US is on average over 1000 per day. As of today 173,490 total deaths reported by the CDC. There numbers lag the actual number due to counting methods.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

Pneumonia describes the state of your lungs from either a virus, bacteria or fungi infection. Your lungs fill with fluid and you literally drown, that's death by pneumonia. Your graph compares covid to pneumonia without describing what kind of pneumonia, so it's disinformation.

The truth is that for the richest most technically advanced country in the world their response has been a complete fail. The reason is that when the hand of fate came knocking at the front door their leader said it was a hoax, then he said it would magically go away and when it didn't he then said it's not my responsibility and left to play golf leaving others to pick up the pieces. History will not be kind to him and his supporters.

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http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/BC_Surveillance_Summary_Aug_20_2020.pdf
 
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StormTrooper said:
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See, it's not that hard to post from credible sources even though your PDF is from the previous weekly report.
Protip... link to the website so that others can check your source and can bookmark for future reference.
Protip... always link to the latest info so that the information is fresh, because stale information is not helpful.

Latest from the CDC, A Weekly Surveillance Summary of US Covid-19 Activity
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

Here is a great Youtube channel that I have found that cuts through the BS and informers the viewer on what is happening in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheJAMANetwork/featured
Description
The JAMA Network is a collection of 12 international peer-reviewed medical journals that features the best in research, reviews, and commentary across the spectrum of medical and surgical practice. Led by the flagship journal JAMA®, the JAMA Network's mission is to improve the public health by providing the information that matters most to practitioners and researchers.

Here is an interview with the head of the CDC from Aug 20 so the info is credible and fresh.
 
For that reason I don't bother with this thread anymore, only 1 point/opinion is rammed/force fed. All others are deleted, proven by someone's comments that certain sites are credible while those without the cool aid mandate are somehow not. Only the cool aid posts stay.

HM
 
Ah yes...the expected posts about censorship and how we choose sides. Truth is the posts that were deleted were off topic and talking about politically fuelled viewpoints that aren't going to happen in this fishing forum. Go find a place on the internet where you can have your polarized debate for as long as you want, there are plenty of websites or forums that will satisfy your needs. We said from the beginning of this thread it would stay focused on information about Covid and we have let plenty of informational pieces be posted here with differing viewpoints. If that isn't good enough for you, just don't bother reading this thread and it won't annoy you anymore.
 
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AMEN
Get a life and go fishing or something!
 
StormTrooper said:
interesting.
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the data is incomplete as it is based on death certificates and takes 1-2 months to process. Those far rights are too dumb to understand that, but essentially ignore the last 3 weeks reported in the chart and then you have some resemblance of accurate data. This gives you a better indication of how the US is actually doing real time.
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Always great to learn something new from an interview with Dr Anthony Fauci. The world is lucy to have him when we need him the most.

 
Is bending the curve still a thing or we just gonna go head strong Sweden style now?


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Henry acknowledged B.C.'s caseload is higher now than it was when the province began shutting down public services and businesses in March, but said health officials now understand much more about the virus, including how to track and prevent transmission.

"Shutting down is not an answer to things," Henry said, ”

or maybe they this graph tells the story or why they are not concerned.

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I was just up in port hardy and was choked to find out covid killed one the places I like to eat at

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Our case load is higher now, but obviously that's cause they weren't testing early on. If you look at hospitalizations now vs then our case load was probably 10 times higher or more early on.
 
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Ah yes...the expected posts about censorship and how we choose sides. Truth is the posts that were deleted were off topic and talking about politically fuelled viewpoints that aren't going to happen in this fishing forum. Go find a place on the internet where you can have your polarized debate for as long as you want, there are plenty of websites or forums that will satisfy your needs. We said from the beginning of this thread it would stay focused on information about Covid and we have let plenty of informational pieces be posted here with differing viewpoints. If that isn't good enough for you, just don't bother reading this thread and it won't annoy you anymore.
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Thanks for administering. It takes a ton of work and keeping fisherman on topic is like trying to keep them in the right Tac!

Sad to see so many businesses retail, hospitality and tourism going under. Hopefully lots of new ones being started, which happens during a pull back.
 
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