Rod Holders

[Bradford Abbott]

My other thing was to mount the Scotty Downrigger mounting plate on the gunnel. Than buy a couple Burnewiin flush mounts for rod holders, and or Burnewiin rail mounts for rod holders.
Thanks for your input think it saved me a tone of money for the Downrigger mounting system.

 

[walleyes]

Do yourself a favour and go with a good backing as well. Even if it’s a piece of treated 1/2“ Fur but do it. Better yet would be some marine plywood or the HDPE like I did then you never worry about rot. The Aluminum on those gunnels is not overly thick, I mean it’s thick enough but why not make it better. Min put some large oversized washers I did the washers as well even with my backing. Never hurts to go the extra little bit.

Our boats have the exact same hulls just different cabins on them but the hull dimensions are identical.

 

[Bradford Abbott]

Thanks for the info, I'll have to see where I can get some. Or see if somebody has some to sell, don't need a full sheet.

 

[Bradford Abbott]

Walleyes do you have any picture of your setup on your gunnels with your Downriggers and rod holders.

 

[Fishin]

Ive been running the Scotty orca holders on 6 1/2” risers without any issues I really enjoy them, puts my rod at the perfect height no reaching over for it.

 

[Ringo]

It's a bit early to be on about rod-holders, but here's what I like.

Ones that can follow easy and explicit instructions on how many pulls to let out, how to do a quick weed check and who can hold the rod still and in place when I'm rowing/fishing.

Also, it helps if they are female, blonde or brunette, and easy on the eyes................damn......just occurred to me you're not talking about those kinds of rod-holders at all.

Sorry, my bad.





Take care.


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Never gets old....

 

[cracked_ribs]

I have to say I really don't like rod holders that mount to a single nylon post. I always sit there looking at my fairly expensive (by my standards) rod and reel combo and thinking something is going to go wrong and the post is going to shear off and I'm going to lose the rod.

Consequently I kind of like the old Scotty Sidewinders. Maybe that's dumb but they just seem like they're not going to break. Anything rocket-launchery just looks like a big lever working a small connection.

 

[walleyes]

Walleyes do you have any picture of your setup on your gunnels with your Downriggers and rod holders.

Not from and underneath view I don’t. At this time I am up at work for a couple weeks but if I remember when I get home I’ll get you a couple pics.

 

[fishnwhenIcan]

I've managed to save rods going overboard a couple of times with the orcas. Only used them for a short while. They are sitting in my garage gathering dust now. i just don't trust them.

 

[Fisher_dude]

I’ve designed a stainless swivel base for Scotty riggers. Currently in product testing. Way more adjustments and almost no slop.

 

[happy hooker]

I love the Orcas, I have mine on the riser then I added an extension bringing the rod back inboard, much easier to grab rod out of holder when you’re not having to reach outside the gunwale.

 

[Rayvon]

I have to say I really don't like rod holders that mount to a single nylon post. I always sit there looking at my fairly expensive (by my standards) rod and reel combo and thinking something is going to go wrong and the post is going to shear off and I'm going to lose the rod.

Consequently I kind of like the old Scotty Sidewinders. Maybe that's dumb but they just seem like they're not going to break. Anything rocket-launchery just looks like a big lever working a small connection.

The Scotty Strykers have a stainless piece inside the black plastic that mounts to the socket,no way you'll break that.

 

[cracked_ribs]

The Scotty Strykers have a stainless piece inside the black plastic that mounts to the socket,no way you'll break that.

I didn't know that... now I think strikers will be the holders for the next boat.

 

[seabeyond]

Folbe has an orca style holder that I've had good luck with. Ran them for a couple charter seasons without issue. I'd prefer to support the canadian products but I do find those superior to the orca.
I have a pair of orcas but sent 2 rods (at least) overboard with those. Luckily they stayed in the clip but it's not ideal soaking your gear in the chuck, bor is the feeling while you pull your rigger to see if it's still in the clip. If you run them off your gunnels one side sits nice but the other side threatens to pop out, especially as you turn. I had one auto eject on the inside turn twice. I admittedly like significant tension on the roads which doesn't help. Hali fishing is a no with the orcas (my opinion anyhow). I dont like the rigger cannons either for hali as I've broken a pair off over the years and had the rods go for a swim....
Never have I had a Stryker break off. The teath go eventually but they've all lasted a couple hundred days before that happens and you can feel the mechanism failing beforehand. Warning is all you can ask. Everything breaks eventually.

 

[SpringVelocity]

Fish the Stealth QR2 this year.. loved them...
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These are awesome going to get them on my boat this year. Having used them on Derby's boat these are way easier to use than the snap open Orcas. Also don't have to stress about it opening up. I had the brand new Orcas open on me a few times before I got rid of them.

 

[Slabbedout]

They tried to sell me on them when I bought my boat this summer and it was a hard no for me. They had a couple boats at the dealership with them on and I didn’t like them, not for downrigger mounts. Way to much stress over a small area for my liking. I swung out one rigger on one of the boats they had rigged up and went down on the ground and I grabbed the end of the rigger and did a quick stress test. The amount of movement I could get out of them was shocking. Like I say not in my boat. Maybe for a rod holder fine but no need for that much of a mount just for a rod holder. I’m an equiment guy and a life time of experience has taught me that anything that flexes will wear from stress and eventually break, no way around that. I went with the Scotty base plate plus underneath I lined the bottom side of the gunnel with full width and 24” long piece of 1/2“ HDPE board as backing for my downriggers and it also catches my Scotty flush mount holders. Over kill you bet but they are there for a lifetime if needed. No movement out of that gunnel, they are trouble free.

Just my two bits on it.

I did the exact thing when I set up my boat. I cut 1/2” Sani board to fit inside the rear 4’ of each gunnel and then mounted Scotty bases and flush mounts for rod holders

I use strikers in flush mounts on the gunnel most of the time. I just never trusted all the torque on a rocket launcher out on the rigger boom, I just know eventually something bad is going to happen. The way I have the flush mounts set up with the strikers you can almost grab the rod and stand it upright momentarily in the rear of the holder while checking your gear / setting the line in the clip so i find it super handy on the smaller boat

 

[CBsqrd]

They tried to sell me on them when I bought my boat this summer and it was a hard no for me. They had a couple boats at the dealership with them on and I didn’t like them, not for downrigger mounts. Way to much stress over a small area for my liking. I swung out one rigger on one of the boats they had rigged up and went down on the ground and I grabbed the end of the rigger and did a quick stress test. The amount of movement I could get out of them was shocking. Like I say not in my boat. Maybe for a rod holder fine but no need for that much of a mount just for a rod holder. I’m an equiment guy and a life time of experience has taught me that anything that flexes will wear from stress and eventually break, no way around that. I went with the Scotty base plate plus underneath I lined the bottom side of the gunnel with full width and 24” long piece of 1/2“ HDPE board as backing for my downriggers and it also catches my Scotty flush mount holders. Over kill you bet but they are there for a lifetime if needed. No movement out of that gunnel, they are trouble free.

Just my two bits on it.

That sounds like the dealer didn't install the mount correctly - no backing plate maybe?

@Bradford Abbott. I put them on my boat four years ago and they have been great, one of the best things I've added to the boat. Rock solid, no flex or movement. Way more flex and play in my Scotty swivel base, of which I've broken several (where the locking pin goes). Like most thingsk proper installation is key. In my case they are mounted through at least 1" of fibreglass with a 3/4" piece of starboard as a backing plate.

They are not for everyone - cost being the biggest downside - but I wouldn't have a boat without them now. I've got the BBQ mount, fender cleats and a separate base for my puller (in addition to the downrigger mount and rod holders) and they get used all the time. Their support is great too. Nice to see places are selling them up here now, when I got mine I had to order direct from Burnewiin.

 

[walleyes]

That sounds like the dealer didn't install the mount correctly - no backing plate maybe?

@Bradford Abbott. I put them on my boat four years ago and they have been great, one of the best things I've added to the boat. Rock solid, no flex or movement. Way more flex and play in my Scotty swivel base, of which I've broken several (where the locking pin goes). Like most thingsk proper installation is key. In my case they are mounted through at least 1" of fibreglass with a 3/4" piece of starboard as a backing plate.

They are not for everyone - cost being the biggest downside - but I wouldn't have a boat without them now. I've got the BBQ mount, fender cleats and a separate base for my puller (in addition to the downrigger mount and rod holders) and they get used all the time. Their support is great too. Nice to see places are selling them up here now, when I got mine I had to order direct from Burnewiin.

The flex didn’t come from the mount per say. The flex comes from the fact that those mounts are so small and you have all that stress over a very small area on a aluminium gunnel that is relatively thin. It’s the gunnel that flexes not the mount. In your case with the 1” fibreglass plus 3/4” backing for sure I could see them being solid. But such is not the case with Bradford Abbott, he is mounting his on a Kingfisher, big difference from .08” Aluminum and 1” fibreglass.

 

[Rockfish]

The Scotty Strykers have a stainless piece inside the black plastic that mounts to the socket,no way you'll break that.

Be careful buying used ones as that steel pin was added in later to increase strength. The early generation did not have the SS pin, just a hollow plastic tube that the SS pin was later put in to. Easy to visually inspect them to see if they have the pin.

 

[Bradford Abbott]

Ive been running the Scotty orca holders on 6 1/2” risers without any issues I really enjoy them, puts my rod at the perfect height no reaching over for it.

What mounting pieces did you use to mount the 6 1/2" scotty riser onto the downrigger. Would like to make 1 up for my downriggers.