SOS..save our salmon poster

Islandgirl

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This was sent to me from Alexandra Morton..circulate if you like.
 
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Thanks Island Girl! I sent this information on to lot's of fishermen. Opp's, fisherwomen too. :D
 
California Salmon rivers collapse. Lowest returns in the history of returns the rivers. Cause: Poor ocean conditions (warm ocean temps lack of feed etc) PS no salmon farms in California.
Oregon Salmon rivers collapse. Commercial season is closed. Lowest returns on record. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Oregon.
WashingtonSalmon rivers collapse. Commercial season is closed and recreational fishery in jeapordy. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. 1 small farm in the whole state.
Japan: Salmon rivers collapse: Entire salmon run in jeapordy of being extinct within 10 years. Cause: Poor Ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Japan.
Russia: Salmon rivers in serious trouble. Salmon are at all time low. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Russia
British Columbia Salmon rivers in trouble. Some runs in worse shape than others. Commercial and sport fishery in jeapordy. Cause: According to scientists Ocean conditions. However according to part time whale researcher Alexandra Morton it is salmon farms.
 
Nice try Barbender, but the research that has shown that pink salmon population are declining in areas of salmon aquaculture (i.e. Krkosek et al. Science 2007) controls for these kinds of fluctuations. You can do better than that...

nerka
 
Nerka,

Krkosek put forward a mathematical model which suggests that it might be happening. The article was questioned by the PSF and DFO as to be 180 degrees different from what their own research shows. Barbender is putting forward events that are actually happening. California and Oregon are shutting down their salmon fisheries.
Will you people wake up and realise that it is not all the fault of salmon farming?
 
Sockeyefry,

I never said it it is ALL the fault of salmon farming (maybe your guilty conscience feels that way?) but they are contributing to problems in the Broughton and we can do something about it! It is alot harder to do something about the poor ocean conditions that have contributed to the collapses Barbender refers to, but is relatively easily to stop putting farms where wild salmon have to interact with them.

Yes the Krkosek paper was questioned by the PSF and DFO and this is what they had to say...

For Immediate Release
February 7, 2008



BC PACIFIC SALMON FORUM’S SCIENCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETS
WITH RESEARCHERS

NANAIMO:

The Pacific Salmon Forum’s Science Advisory Committee (SAC) met today with Martin
Krkosek, Alexandra Morton, Subhash Lele and Mark A. Lewis, co-authors of a study on sea
lice and Pacific salmon published recently in Science. This meeting was requested by the
Forum to clarify certain aspects of the study.

The authors and members of the SAC had a detailed and positive discussion of the paper
and its assumptions.

There was general acknowledgement that the analysis in the paper shows that sea lice
infestations between 2001and 2005 likely contributed to depressed productivity of pink
salmon in the Broughton Archipelago.

There was general agreement that the paper’s predictions regarding extinction are
dependent on future management regimes.

Research currently being conducted by the authors and the Forum will help to identify
effective management of sea lice to sustain pink salmon in the Broughton.



- 30 -



Hon. John Fraser, Chair
BC Pacific Salmon Forum
MEDIA CONTACT:
250 755-3036
 
quote:Originally posted by Barbender

California Salmon rivers collapse. Lowest returns in the history of returns the rivers. Cause: Poor ocean conditions (warm ocean temps lack of feed etc) PS no salmon farms in California.
Oregon Salmon rivers collapse. Commercial season is closed. Lowest returns on record. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Oregon.
WashingtonSalmon rivers collapse. Commercial season is closed and recreational fishery in jeapordy. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. 1 small farm in the whole state.
Japan: Salmon rivers collapse: Entire salmon run in jeapordy of being extinct within 10 years. Cause: Poor Ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Japan.
Russia: Salmon rivers in serious trouble. Salmon are at all time low. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Russia
British Columbia Salmon rivers in trouble. Some runs in worse shape than others. Commercial and sport fishery in jeapordy. Cause: According to scientists Ocean conditions. However according to part time whale researcher Alexandra Morton it is salmon farms.

What about Alaska..........??????????????

Oh yea they just increased their catch of salmon by 100000 lbs and accidently caught 130000 chinooks in Pollack fishery.

I know it is easy to point fingers at the commercial fishery, salmon farms, herring fishery, DFO and even BC fishing guides, all because they are in front of us and are local, but what about the biggest "poachers" of salmon in North America.

The Alaskans thumb their noses at us, laugh at us and sit back to reap the rewards of BC, Washington, Oregon and California's conservation efforts.

I am not a supporter of fish farms, I detest them, but I find it funny in away that we are quick to jump on them for the damage they are doing to the pinks of the Broughton, yet I hear so many coments about those PITA pinks, or all we caught were some lousy pinks, there was way to many pinks around for us to catch coho or we tried to fish bait, but the damn pinks kept tearing it up..etc. Lets face it, pinks are not a very popular fish with the chinnok and coho crowd, yet it can be a big focus when it comes to problems with our fishery. If fish farms expand even more, will they become a problem for the chinook and coho, or is it just the pinks?

Alaska is one of, if not, the biggest problem we have with our fishery. Of course there is nothing we can do about it, because our politicians are too chicken S*#t to confront them and if they did, the Alaskans would just laugh anyways.

Maybe we need to join forces with the three states and become one voice.

I will now step down and have a beer

SS
 
quote:Originally posted by Barbender

California Salmon rivers collapse. Lowest returns in the history of returns the rivers. Cause: Poor ocean conditions (warm ocean temps lack of feed etc) PS no salmon farms in California.
Oregon Salmon rivers collapse. Commercial season is closed. Lowest returns on record. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Oregon.
WashingtonSalmon rivers collapse. Commercial season is closed and recreational fishery in jeapordy. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. 1 small farm in the whole state.
Japan: Salmon rivers collapse: Entire salmon run in jeapordy of being extinct within 10 years. Cause: Poor Ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Japan.
Russia: Salmon rivers in serious trouble. Salmon are at all time low. Cause: Poor ocean conditions. PS no salmon farms in Russia
British Columbia Salmon rivers in trouble. Some runs in worse shape than others. Commercial and sport fishery in jeapordy. Cause: According to scientists Ocean conditions. However according to part time whale researcher Alexandra Morton it is salmon farms.

Good post.
 
Scotland
The Bitter Harvest report details the pressures that fish farming is putting on Scotland's fragile marine environment and sets out a vision for a better-regulated industry in the future. WWF's main concerns include:
Nutrient Pollution: The release of fish faeces and uneaten food into inshore lochs pollutes these sensitive environments and is suspected of being connected to the occurrence of toxic algal blooms that have devastated the scallop industry in recent years.
Chemical Pollution: Through the release of chemicals to treat diseases and parasites in farmed fish, with unknown consequences for marine life.
Global Impact: Wild fish are being caught as far away as the Pacific Ocean to be crushed up into fish meal and fed to farmed salmon in Scotland.
Limited benefits for Scotland: 60% of the salmon industry is owned by a few big foreign multinationals that produce over 120 000 tonnes of fish annually. With increased intensification of the industry the production of salmon may have rocketed, but the benefits for local communities remain the same. Full and part time employment on salmon farms has dropped slightly from 1995 to 1999, yet salmon production increased by a massive 76% during the same period (SEERAD, 2000).

Norway
Escapes From Norway's Fish Farms Threaten Wild Salmon

File photo of Wild salmon in action.
by Wilfred Vuillaume
Oslo (AFP) Jan 19, 2007
Hundreds of thousands of salmon escape from Norwegian fish farms each year carrying parasites that pose a serious threat to wild salmon, a growing phenomenon that has fish farmers, environmentalists and authorities worried. Some 790,000 salmon and trout slipped through the nets last year, compared to 722,000 the previous year.
This despite the fact that the salmon are continuously monitored. Underwater cameras and divers are constantly on the lookout for small holes in the nets of the aluminium cages that lie 35 meters (115 feet) under the surface.

The escapes are "a crime against the environment", Peter Gullestad, the head of the Norwegian Directorate of Fisheries, told AFP, adding: "Norway is facing its biggest ecological challenge."

The fish that escape from Norway's 1,000 fish farms, located in fjords and rivers along the 21,347 kilometers (13,264 miles) of coastline, threaten the maritime ecosystem.

"Salmon lice is the biggest threat" to stocks of wild salmon in the long term, explained Espen Farstad, a spokesman for the Norwegian hunting and fishing association NJFF.

The lice, which live in salt water and are known by the Latin name Lepeophtheirus salmonis, bite the salmon until they bleed, feeding off of the fish's mucus and causing the least resistant fish to die.

Most susceptible are young wild salmon swimming in the fjords and rivers before they head off to the open sea, as their immune systems are not yet fully developed.

The lice is a problem at all salmon farms around the world. In Norway, it poses a particular problem since fish is the country's second-largest natural resource export after oil and gas.

Also, as farmed salmon increasingly mix with wild salmon, the genetic composition of the latter changes.

"In the future, the entire genetic system of the wild fauna could be modified," Farstad warned.

"We are doing everything we can to prevent salmon from escaping from their cages and infecting the nearby rivers," insisted Bernt Wictor Haugen, a fish farmer in the Finnmark region in Norway's far north.

The industry is using frogmen, anti-lice baths, antibiotics, vaccines, and any other methods available to help fish farms and commercial fishing co-exist in harmony.

But for environmental organisations, not enough is being done.

"The fish farmers are not taking the problem seriously enough. The farms at fault should be punished," said Maren Esmark of the Norwegian branch of WWF.

She wants authorities to introduce severe sanctions on the fish farms. The complaints filed to the police are seldom followed up, according to Gullestad.

The fisheries ministry meanwhile says that the fish farm escapes are a top priority, as Norway has a reputation as a world leader to defend.

In 2006, fish farm exports totalled 18.7 billion kroner (2.2 billion euros, 2.9 billion dollars), up 24 percent from a year earlier, according to the Norwegian fisheries export committee EFF.

The increase is due primarily to rising demand for salmon and the arrival of cod and halibut farms.

Norway is Europe main's supplier of fish, both farmed and wild, with a market share of 62 percent in 2006.

And last year, fish farm exports for the first time exceeded exports from the traditional fishing sector, reaching 17 billion kronor.

In July, a special committee was set up by the fisheries ministry to improve security at the fish farms.

"Now all fish farm equipment has to be certified by the committee. A very strict inspection takes place once a year," said Rune Bildeng, an advisor to the fisheries ministry.

In order to meet the new demands, Norway's fish farms are slowly being turned into ultra-modern fortresses, resembling less and less the traditional fish farms.

"But a well-monitored salmon will always be better on the plate," insisted fish farmer Bernt Wictor Haugen.

Chile

To see fish farming at its worst, travel to Chile, where salmon farming has boomed in the past decade and generates $1 billion a year in export revenue. "A film of feed leftover made of fish oil, animal fat and transgenic soybean oil floats on the water around the salmon farms," says Ronald Pfeil, 67, a cattle farmer in Chile's remote Aysen region. "When the tide is low, the beaches stink."

Related Articles

Fish Farming’s Growing Dangers
Under international pressure, Chile introduced strict new regulations in January. But the problems surrounding fish farming are complex, and some are only dimly understood. Daniel Pauly, 55, a professor of fisheries science at the University of British Columbia, has calculated that it takes 2 to 5 lbs. of anchovies, sardines, menhaden and the other oily fish that comprise fish meal to produce 1 lb. of farmed salmon, which he says makes no sense in a world trying to increase the amount of available protein. Kentucky State University biologist James Tidwell, 47, a former president of the World Aquaculture Society, points out, however, that wild salmon are bigger eaters than that — consuming at least 10 lbs. of fish to add 1 lb. in weight — and argues that harvesting large amounts of short-lived species like menhaden is no more harmful than mowing the lawn. "Fish-meal fish are nature's forage," he says. "Cropping them merely increases their productivity."

Ireland
Parasite infestation is another chronic problem of high-density seafood farms. One of the most damaging organisms is the sea louse, which breeds by the millions in the vicinity of captive salmon. In 1989 Peter Mantle, who owns a wild salmon and sea-trout sport fishery in Delphi on the west coast of Ireland, discovered that young trout returning to his river from the ocean were covered with lice that were boring through the trouts' skin and feasting on their flesh. The sea lice were breeding near newly installed salmon farms in the inlet fed by his river. By the time the salmon farmers started dosing their pens with anti-sea-lice chemicals, the sea-trout fisheries of the west of Ireland were effectively dead. "Sea-trout fishing was sustainable and eco-friendly," says Mantle, "but the salmon farms killed it off within a decade."
Impact on wild fish populations: Escaped salmon (on the West coast escaped farmed salmon now make up 22% of the 'wild' catch) alter the genetic make up of wild salmon, as well as infecting them with disease and parasites.


Maybe they should blame Alaska as well.
 
Kisana...same old same old. Most of your post is not accurate or compeltely wrong. However I will make the point that what other countries do have little application to BC. We do things a lot differently here. We are not even the same as how fish is farmed on the East Coast of Canada.

quote:Alaska is one of, if not, the biggest problem we have with our fishery. Of course there is nothing we can do about it, because our politicians are too chicken S*#t to confront them and if they did, the Alaskans would just laugh anyways.

Sitka you bring up a great point. If you want to read a great book about this subject read "Salmon Wars" Dennis Brown. It really makes you sick when you read about the waste and destruction brought on by poor management by our Gov't and our greedy neighbours to the north. Alsaka has really not played fair and they dont care about either.
 
Barbender
To you it may be the same old crap, but you must notice that the one problem all these countries are having is that they have allowed fish farming.
Although you keep saying we are different here the common thread is the problems from fish farming.
The only argument you tout is that if the farms went to closed pens then the fish is too expensive. Kind of like saying I make fishing rods for a million dollars each but nobody will buy them, but if I can dump all my crap and kill off the competition I can bring the price down to 39.95
 
quote:Barbender, do you actually eat that crap.
First of all it is not crap and yes I eat it all the time.
quote:go wild or go home, just my 2 cents
If by wild you mean hatchery raised, pellet fed fish that are released after being raised in pens for one year....then go for it. Hate to tell you this but "wild" fish disappeared for the most part 30 years ago.
 
quote:Originally posted by Barbender
If by wild you mean hatchery raised, pellet fed fish that are released after being raised in pens for one year....then go for it. Hate to tell you this but "wild" fish disappeared for the most part 30 years ago.

Good job on discrediting yourself! If you look at how many rivers & streams still support salmon in B.C. and then look at how many have hatcheries on them....you will find that statement to be vastly untrue.
 
Hey CR,

Aren't mose of the runs targetted by anglers the result of hatchery production, like around Campbell River and out in Nootka sound?
 
I am not discrediting my self, I am only being honest. Ask yourself how many salmon would be swimming on the west coast right now if it weren't for hatchery programs. Also the gene pool of the salmon out there is so diluted and screwed up that it will never recover completely. Every major producing salmon area on the entire west coast of N America is supported by one or several hatcheries. That should tell you something. No spin involved....this is the truth.
quote: Hey Barbender, you ever thought of going down south and working for the Clintons
Depends...is Monica part of the deal?
 
quote:Originally posted by sockeyefry

Hey CR,

Aren't mose of the runs targetted by anglers the result of hatchery production, like around Campbell River and out in Nootka sound?

We definately target the big hatchery produced runs..Marble River, Conuma River, Robertson Creek, Quinsam, Oyster, Puntledge, Qualicum's, Nanaimo....and the list goes on. Part of that is due the way DFO manages the fishery, there are generally more liberal openigs in areas where hatchery stock is concentrated, depending on the estimated escapement for that particular year. The theory is to take pressure off wild stocks or stocks of concern. For example, you can often harvest unmarked coho inside Nootka sound while they must be released offshore to protect mixed stocks.

But, This is just a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of wild salmon rivers in the Province. Two of largest chinook producing systems the Fraser and The Skeena are mostly mixed wild stock. Most tribs(with suitable habitat) from one end of the Fraser all the way to it's headwaters in Jasper contain or once contained a run of chinook. Most are wild. Of course these systems have their big hatcheries as well, but there are far more wild stocks than hatchery stocks. Province wide, there are so many different wild stocks of salmon, I doub't DFO or the province could even give a number of how many there are.
 
With the original post to this thread in mind, which was obviously created by Ms. Morton for its shock value, I submit the following:

www.seafoodintelligence.com

March 14, 2008
LACK OF BAD NEWS doesn’t sell US & Canadian newspapers when it comes to farmed salmon…
The British Columbia Pacific Salmon Forum on release on Wednesday (March 12th) of a review by British Columbia scientist Dr. Brian Harvey of 87 peer-reviewed studies on the topic of sea-lice and wild/farmed salmon didn’t get one single mention in the North American media, as far as one can tell by searching today (two days after the BCPSF’s press announcement) the US & Canadian news databases.
In contrast, when a study – any study or argument – has a doom and gloom element to it and hails the looming death of Pacific salmon in the Broughton Archipelago, the same news databases yield dozens, if not hundreds, of results within a day or two.
Interesting thus to note the power of communication in the media (and thus the public)’s perception of the ‘wild vs. farmed’ debate…
Dr. Brian Harvey commented upon his study’s findings Wednesday: “The burden of proof - that sea lice from farmed Atlantic salmon don’t cause population decline in wild salmon - is with the salmon farming industry.”
But through media coverage, it's another burden that rests on the salmon farming industry’s shoulders…
Science and Sea Lice: What Do We Know is now available on the BC Pacific Salmon Forum website. The views expressed in the report are those of the author.

How's the spin doctor and master of public opinion manipulation?
 
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