Seals effects

[wildmanyeah]

Fur Seals not harbour seals. Fur Seals look like smaller sea lions.

hhahah opps, did we wipe those out?

 

[california]

1890 harvest of BC seals, almost 45 thousand, That's pretty much the amount of seals we have today... I think it's pretty safe to say at the time anywhere their were humans their probably was not seals and most definitely not sea otters we wiped those completely out. Pacific cod has also been competently whipped out in the Salish sea,,,

Those sales were not harbour seals, or maybe even BC seals. The 1890s were the height of the Northern Fur seal fishery to satisfy european demand. Sealing boats based on the BC coast went as far north as Alaska to kill northern fur seals in their rookeries. The population was nearly wiped out, and has never fully recovered.

Harbour seals and sea lions began being killed in 1911 to 1969, some for pelts or pet food, some for a bounty. It wasn't uncommon for killer whales to be shot for the same reason, percieved competition for salmon.

 

[wildmanyeah]

There sales were not harbour seals, or maybe even BC seals. The 1890s were the height of the Northern Fur seal fishery to satisfy european demand. Sealing boats based on the BC coast went as far as north as Alaska to kill northern fur seals in their rookeries. The population was nearly wiped out, and has never fully recovered.

Just got up to speed on them thanks Che and California. seems like they are very sensitive to a warming climate, so their probably screwed

 

[wildmanyeah]

Sea otter cull time?? lol just joking

Shrinking seafood harvests in Alaska have cuddly culprit: sea otters

http://www.providencejournal.com/ne...ests-in-alaska-have-cuddly-culprit-sea-otters

 

[wildmanyeah]

Its clear we need some sort of Eco based harvest model, That we cant simply cherry pick the species we want to harvest like salmon.

 

[Pursuit]

More data on seal predation in Georgia Strait/Salish Sea is available. Have a look at the Pacific Salmon Foundation's "Salish Sea Marine Survival Project" page 1:

"Results from juvenile salmon predation studies included:

• initial estimates that Harbour seals in the Strait of Georgia are consuming up to 40 per cent of juvenile Chinook and 47 per cent of juvenile Coho;"
  
  [my bold]

Seals and Sea Lions are not THE problem but they are for sure A LARGE PART of the problem and seal predation and population management need to be at least part of the overall plan for Chinook and Coho recovery.

We need to find common ground with other interest groups and it would seem to me the survival of the orcas is the place to start. Their survival hinges on the recovery of the Chinook population and the single largest unaddressed factor in the depletion of the Chinook is pinniped predation. The conversation should start: To save the orca save the Chinook.

 

[wildmanyeah]

How many seals can we remove before it has unintended consequence to the transient whale population?

 

[Che]

The conversation should start: To save the orca save the Chinook.

#feedthewhales

The adversarial approach to DFO will not work. We always see the same rhetoric from the 'advocates.' They blame aboriginal/first nation/indian fishing and then squawk that DFO is mismanaged. They can't see the forest through the trees. Judo uses the opponent's own momentum and weight against them. These NGO envirobullies that are getting sport fishing limited and shut down? They can be completely cucked and have their efforts directed towards salmonid enhancement.

 

[Airon]

Excellent video, thank you for the post, great to see what all the modern tech we have these days can do to better analyze

 

[searun]

#feedthewhales

The adversarial approach to DFO will not work. We always see the same rhetoric from the 'advocates.' They blame aboriginal/first nation/indian fishing and then squawk that DFO is mismanaged. They can't see the forest through the trees. Judo uses the opponent's own momentum and weight against them. These NGO envirobullies that are getting sport fishing limited and shut down? They can be completely cucked and have their efforts directed towards salmonid enhancement.

Yes, the ENGO "envirobullies" (great tag), mounted very well organized social media campaigns directed at closing down rec fishing, and now they are onto whale watching and commercial fishing.

 

[banger17]

This picture is from Entrance Island last week - what do these 200 eat in a day?

 

[dmurph]

I find it crazy that the residents don’t eat seals, the whales are one of the smartest hunters in the sea yet they are starving as opposed to eating some of the abundant seal population

 

[GLG]

I find it crazy that the residents don’t eat seals, the whales are one of the smartest hunters in the sea yet they are starving as opposed to eating some of the abundant seal population

The three types (offshore, transit and resident) we have around here diverged genetically 10's of thousands of years ago. They are each different and nature has evolved them to specialize. It would be hard to wind back the clock because it does not work that way.