Bottom line on the “bottom thing” whatever fish farms put in the water (good or bad) is going to affect the bottom. I know of NO BC fish farm putting anything in the water that is going to benefit the area.
Well there really is a connection between farmed and wild salmon. First you have a wild fish and/or salmon who gets a disease. In a natural enviroment that fish will usually just die. Now, with an “open net pen” that wild fish will swim by and it actually does pass the disease to the farmed salmon (how else would farm salmon get disease). Then being in those nicely congested unnatural open net pens, the disease is amplified and then passed back to every passing wild fish. That my friend is known problem and very much a connection.
Concerning “that small area of bottom” and wild salmon have you ever heard of things called: “dead zones;” “algae blooms;” “toxic algae blooms;” “mercury;” “toxic chemicals”?
Would you mind explaining how SLICE is not harming all those dead shellfish around those “open net pens”?
There is actually little in common with the “beef” industry (tainted or not) and “open net pen” fish farming – other than both are “feedlots.” At least “agriculture” industry does keep their pollution and diseases confined.
Have to ask… is that a play on words as in:
“No Confirmed Cases of Infectious Salmon Anaemia in British Columbia” News Release: No Confirmed Cases of Infectious Salmon Anaemia in British Columbia Or, are you talking ISA the disease, or ISAv which causes the ISA disease? Or, are you just trying to make anyone believe ISA and ISAv aren’t in BC? Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but British Columbia - has both and has for years! Don’t believe that I highly suggest ready those Cohen testimonies closer.
ISA disease is running throughout BC and given enough time, money, and support about the only one who is going to prove that is - Dr Alexandra Morton. To the government of Canada, I suggest rather than letting all those dead “Atlantic” salmon be disposed of at 2:00 am, why doesn’t someone actually test those dead Atlantic salmon for ISAv?
There NEVER will be a confirmed case of ISA in British Columbia until BC experiences a full-fledged ISA breakout and has so many dead fish they can’t deny. Until then they will keep playing on words and deny – deny - deny!
“To date, no attempts to isolate the suspect ISA virus in cell culture have been successful by any laboratory; nor has any sequencing data been produced. Thus, there have been no confirmed findings of ISA in the samples.”
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/media/back-fiche/2011/20111108-eng.htm
Hmmm… no attempts to isolate have been successful by any laboratory? Thus, no confirmed findings of ISA? Dr. Fred Kibenge, one of the world’s leading authorities on infectious salmon anaemia (ISA), might just disagree with those misleading statements.
http://avc.upei.ca/dr-fred-kibenge-invited-testify-bc-salmon-inquiry
Let’s see what the CFIA had to say during the Cohen inquiry on no ISAv in BC:
Reporting to CFIA:
Sample Set #1
October 9, 2011 – Preliminary notification to the sample submitter in BC that some samples tested positive for ISAV.
October 15, 2011 – Results reported to Dr. Brian Evans, OIE delegate and CFIA Chief Veterinary Office. The report stated that two samples from Sockeye salmon tested positive for the European genotype of ISAV by real-time RT-PCR.
November 30, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory sent report on preliminary cell culture test work. Work is ongoing; therefore final results are not available.
Sample Set #2
October 17, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory notified CFIA of additional samples received and being tested for ISAV.
October 20, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory notified CFIA of one positive test result.
October 27, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory submitted the final laboratory analysis of these samples which include three positive test results and the explanatory notes described above.
November 30, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory sent report on preliminary cell culture test work. Work is ongoing; therefore final results are not available.
Sample Set #3
November 3, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory notified CFIA of negative test results.
Sample Set #4
November 25, 2011 – ISA OIE Reference Laboratory notified CFIA of negative test results.
[PDF] (ISA) Laboratory Assessment - Cohen Commission
Oh… it get better as Canada’s response to these OIE positive test results on ISAv from:
“Peter Wright, PhD, manager of the National Aquatic Animal Health Laboratory System for Fisheries and Oceans Canada, said in the call that, although the Atlantic Veterinary College has reported two positive test results, the college has not provided evidence of successful virus isolation or sequencing data that could be used to confirm the presumptive positive findings.”
Well, just go back and re-read DFO’s own website concerning ISAv, which again is “To date, no attempts to isolate the suspect ISA virus in cell culture have been successful by any laboratory; nor has any sequencing data been produced. Thus, there have been no confirmed findings of ISA in the samples.” Then read that above news release, “No Confirmed Cases of Infectious Salmon Anaemia in British Columbia” as it actually reads:
“DFO has tested all 48 samples received as part of the original reports and the results are all negative for the virus. These results are consistent with the findings of an independent laboratory in Norway, which also tested samples associated with this investigation and provided a report to the CFIA.”
That is at the very best misleading! And, IMHO, is an outright LIE! What DFO seems to have left out of that news release, on DFO’s on website:
“Because RNA degrades rapidly, an extra test, called the “reference gene assay”, is conducted on the original extract. The result of this assay indicates the level of degradation by comparing it to a well preserved sample of the same species. As mentioned, if the RNA has substantially degraded, neither a PCR nor any other approved testing method can determine the presence or absence of the virus with any degree of confidence.”
Then DFO’s own Dr Wight makes this statement:
“Dr. Wright further explained in a message that
government investigators were not able to test cardiac samples from the 48 original smolts because no material was left after the college's tests. The investigators obtained negative test results with kidney RNA extracts
, which had partly degraded. He noted that a lab in
Norway produced a single weak positive result through molecular assays on gills from the 48 smolts, but he said the samples
were of poor quality and the results couldn't be repeated. “
Out of the mouths of “babes”:
https://www.avma.org/News/JAVMANews/Pages/120101k.aspx
Believe what you wish; however, those Atlantic salmon dying with those lesions, swelling and/or reddening of the kidney, pale gills, darkening of posterior intestine, splenomegaly, and very possibly those “yellow” dead fish are NOT dying from BKD, they are dying from ISA and it is due from the ISA Virus - PERIOD! I would suggest and advise the governments of BC and Canada get their Dr Marty to start defining “secondary” and “primary” causes of those morts, as many of those diseases being disclosed are actually secondary diseases of ISA. And, THEY ALL KNOW! Goes back to, if you don’t TEST ISA, no one can’t confirm it, which really means Canada can still export those diseased Atlantic salmon to China.
DENY - DENY - DENY!!!
