Atlantic salmon blood through an effluent pipe - directly into Brown’s Bay

http://bcsalmonfarmers.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/BCSFA_ASC_MHCrelease_October72016.pdf

Founded in 2010 by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and the Dutch Sustainable Trade Initiative, the ASC is an independent not for profit organisation. ASC aims to be the world's leading certification and labelling programme for responsibly farmed seafood. The ASC's primary role is to manage the global standards for responsible aquaculture. Bull Harbour is Marine Harvest’s newest salmon farm location and operated in partnership with the Tlatlasikwala First Nation. Goat Cove farm site is operated in partnership with the Kitasoo/Xai’xais First Nation – a 20 year relationship that sees First Nation and company raise and process salmon for domestic and international markets. “This year marks thirty years since our Nation began raising salmon in our territory,” said Kitasoo/Xai’xais Hereditary Chief Archie Robinson Sr. “We were the first Nation to take the plunge and decades later we continue to take a lead in raising high-quality salmon.” There are currently ten salmon farms in B.C. certified to the ASC standard, and BCSFA members Marine Harvest Canada and Cermaq Canada are the only two companies to achieve the certification for salmon farms in North America. “Our members continue to show their commitment to achieving world class farming practices at all farms by 2020,” said Jeremy Dunn, Executive Director, BC Salmon Farmers Association. “This latest certification of two farms – achieved by BCSFA members Marine Harvest Canada, Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation, and Tlatlasikwala First Nation – is another important milestone toward this commitment.”
 
http://bcsalmonfarmers.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/BCSFA_ASC_MHCrelease_October72016.pdf

Founded in 2010 by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and the Dutch Sustainable Trade Initiative, the ASC is an independent not for profit organisation. ASC aims to be the world's leading certification and labelling programme for responsibly farmed seafood. The ASC's primary role is to manage the global standards for responsible aquaculture. Bull Harbour is Marine Harvest’s newest salmon farm location and operated in partnership with the Tlatlasikwala First Nation. Goat Cove farm site is operated in partnership with the Kitasoo/Xai’xais First Nation – a 20 year relationship that sees First Nation and company raise and process salmon for domestic and international markets. “This year marks thirty years since our Nation began raising salmon in our territory,” said Kitasoo/Xai’xais Hereditary Chief Archie Robinson Sr. “We were the first Nation to take the plunge and decades later we continue to take a lead in raising high-quality salmon.” There are currently ten salmon farms in B.C. certified to the ASC standard, and BCSFA members Marine Harvest Canada and Cermaq Canada are the only two companies to achieve the certification for salmon farms in North America. “Our members continue to show their commitment to achieving world class farming practices at all farms by 2020,” said Jeremy Dunn, Executive Director, BC Salmon Farmers Association. “This latest certification of two farms – achieved by BCSFA members Marine Harvest Canada, Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation, and Tlatlasikwala First Nation – is another important milestone toward this commitment.”
Another good short read:
VANCOUVER/HALIFAX — Today’s decision by a renowned seafood recommendation program to label some eco-certified farmed salmon as a “Good Alternative” for consumers is faulty, according to SeaChoice, a collaboration among Canadian environmental groups. Seafood Watch published its recommendations today following a review of the Aquaculture Stewardship Council’s (ASC) salmon certification standard.

“We’re concerned that the salmon standard — as evaluated by Seafood Watch — is not being applied,” says Kelly Roebuck, SeaChoice representative from the Living Oceans Society. “Every farm certified in Canada departs from the standard and requires variances to the ASC’s environmental health requirements.”

The Aquaculture Stewardship Council is a certification and labelling body for farmed seafood that manages global standards for responsible aquaculture.

Allowing variances to meet the sustainability criteria undermines the salmon standard. SeaChoice does not recognize ASC certified farmed salmon as a “Good Alternative” equivalent for consumers because Seafood Watch did not review these variances in its benchmarking process.

Canadian salmon farms are allowed variances in relation to the standard’s sea lice indicator, which requires fish farm operators to control sea lice while wild juvenile salmon migrate nearby. The ASC now allows British Columbia farms to be certified with more than 60 times the number of lice permitted by the standard.

“We have always maintained that the regulation of sea lice in Canada is inadequate to protect wild fish, especially small juveniles as they begin their migration,” said John Werring, senior policy analyst for the David Suzuki Foundation. “By allowing variances, ASC has diluted the value of its own standard to protect wild fish.”

Elsewhere in the world, ASC has also approved variance requests that substantially alter the salmon standard in practice. For example, in Chile and Norway, chemical and drug use far exceeds prescribed limits. In Australia, benthic monitoring procedures have been changed in favour of local regulations.

“The ASC salmon standard was set up to be a global gold standard certification through a multi-stakeholder Salmon Aquaculture Dialogue. Now, four years into operations, the ASC is setting new rules that override the dialogue agreements without an appropriate scientific, transparent and inclusive process,” Roebuck said.

SeaChoice is asking the ASC to repeal its variance request processes so that it can legitimately benchmark to a Seafood Watch “Good Alternative” recommendation.

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http://bcsalmonfarmers.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/BCSFA_Wastewater_NOV28.pdf

“Browns Bay Packing operates under a permit issued by the Province of B.C. It has gone through an environmental impact study in the permitting process.”

Interesting part in this press release is this.....
“Having viewed the video, I understand why people are concerned about the effluent being discharged from fish processing plants. While the wastewater remains red in colour, the water being discharged from Browns Bay Packing Company is treated to remove solids and ensure pathogens are neutralized.”

I wonder why test samples from the discharge turned up positive for PRv if as they claim they ensure pathogens are neutralized. Can you explain that Bones?
 
Really? The CFIA stormed the lab. Like with a swat team? This is the first I have heard of this version.
No, I wouldn't expect that would be the type of information either DFO, CFIA and/or the BCSFA would want posted on their webpages. Thanks for being open for more info, BN. Seizing and destroying the samples and shutting down the only lab in Canada for ISAv - I think is something we can all agree - would make retesting difficult. Kinda the intent, here - destroying the evidence and the lab to test it. I am also hoping we can agree that these are not actions that would be expected from responsible, and professional federal regulators charged with the protection of the wild stocks would do, neither.
see:
https://www.vancouverobserver.com/opinion/shooting-messenger-lab-stripped-credentials-after-finding-infectious-virus-bc-salmon
http://commonsensecanadian.ca/kristi-miller-cohen-commission-salmon-virus/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/repor...ied-up-federal-resources-for-months-1.1062456
 
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Ya - it's too bad the federal regulators were not held responsible, WMY, eh?
 
Ya - it's too bad the federal regulators were not held responsible, WMY, eh?

AS you have pointed out it's the Federal Liberals Policy choice to be the promoters of Fish Farms. Want fish farms gone don't vote Liberal.
 
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I wonder why test samples from the discharge turned up positive for PRv if as they claim they ensure pathogens are neutralized. Can you explain that Bones?[/QUOTE]

I think that question could be answered by knowing more about the sampling method involved. All we have been told is effluent was taken from a spewing pipe, underwater.
As someone who has done a lot of scientific sampling, if this is indeed the method of collection, it is open to all kinds of skepticism and most likely is not even replicable.
Shoddy is a word that works.
And you know GLG, PRv is endemic in the Pacific; perhaps the rockfish already had the virus.
 
all really short good readings, none of which are true as the fish farmers wrote them, but what the hell eh.

I gave you a like bones since it was nice to see you come out with something truthful....
 
I wonder why test samples from the discharge turned up positive for PRv if as they claim they ensure pathogens are neutralized. Can you explain that Bones?
I think that question could be answered by knowing more about the sampling method involved. All we have been told is effluent was taken from a spewing pipe, underwater.
As someone who has done a lot of scientific sampling, if this is indeed the method of collection, it is open to all kinds of skepticism and most likely is not even replicable.
Shoddy is a word that works.
And you know GLG, PRv is endemic in the Pacific; perhaps the rockfish already had the virus.

Interesting defence of the fish farm industry.... deny the results of PRv positive test and a so what if it's true.

Heart and skeletal muscle inflammation (HSMI) disease diagnosed on a British Columbia salmon farm through a longitudinal farm study Published: February 22, 2017
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0171471#sec029

Infection with purified Piscine orthoreovirus demonstrates a causal relationship with heart and skeletal muscle inflammation in Atlantic salmon Published: August 25, 2017
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0183781#sec002

At some point your going to have to take responsibility for your actions.
 
Interesting defence of the fish farm industry.... deny the results of PRv positive test and a so what if it's true.

Heart and skeletal muscle inflammation (HSMI) disease diagnosed on a British Columbia salmon farm through a longitudinal farm study Published: February 22, 2017
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0171471#sec029

Infection with purified Piscine orthoreovirus demonstrates a causal relationship with heart and skeletal muscle inflammation in Atlantic salmon Published: August 25, 2017
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0183781#sec002

At some point your going to have to take responsibility for your actions.

Interesting? Its true that this sample has no proper chain of custody which guarantees it would not stand up to any peer review. Its no surprise that glg is turning the focus on to science that only looks at the prv relationship with atlantic salmon and does not include any of the facts we know about prv and pacific stocks. We have discussed this extensively previously glg yet here you are posting incomplete info again for the complete list of facts on prv in bc to date does not fit your preferred narrative. Thanks once again for demonstrating this for us.
 
Interesting? Its true that this sample has no proper chain of custody which guarantees it would not stand up to any peer review. Its no surprise that glg is turning the focus on to science that only looks at the prv relationship with atlantic salmon and does not include any of the facts we know about prv and pacific stocks. We have discussed this extensively previously glg yet here you are posting incomplete info again for the complete list of facts on prv in bc to date does not fit your preferred narrative. Thanks once again for demonstrating this for us.

Interesting that your not concerned that PRv virus that is being allowed to escape from Browns Bay, due to improper affluent treatment, has the potential to infect fish farms north of that plant. I wonder if all the fish farms share your "roll the dice" risk assessment.
 
Interesting that your not concerned that PRv virus that is being allowed to escape from Browns Bay, due to improper affluent treatment, has the potential to infect fish farms north of that plant. I wonder if all the fish farms share your "roll the dice" risk assessment.
I would suggest looking at facts and studies that show how prv is effecting pacific stocks. I know you do not intend on providing any sort of quantifiable information so you can keep with the "role the dice' risk assessment however if you look at the facts to date you will find a lot of information about prv in pacific salmon stocks.

Lets continue to have these same discussions over and over and over. And they always seem to be started by an introduction of incomplete information by you know who. lol
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/aah-saa/species-especes/aq-health-sante/prv-rp-eng.html
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0146229
 
Here is an old paper that sheds some light on PRv and pacific salmon. The conclusion was that "yellow fish" disease was not caused by PRv. That begs the question.... so what does cause it them? The answer seems to be we don't know but we can rule out a bacterium. When fish from this farm go for processing then treatment of the blood water is doubly important as we have a mystery virus that must be neutralized and not allowed to spread to the wild population. After all it's just common sense regardless of what chain of custody or whatever the latest argument is.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jfd.12329/full
 
Spawning Fraser River tributary Pink and Chinook salmon also sometimes show this yellowing in the belly area. From what I have observed, these fish spawn naturally and other than the yellow color, behave normally.
I first observed these yellow pinks in the early 70's so it is unlikely salmon farms are the cause.
 
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