My first boat — 1983 Commander 26

…You have a great boat. I am fairly handy so the costs of most things are minimal for me to do and staying on top of the problems that come along will give you a high end experience that you can't beat for the cost.
Give your self lots of time, pick the tides, run on one motor at 8 knots and you can do anything and fish anywhere in style for the season.

If you are close to C/r I would be happy to drop over and have look at what you have going on.
Cheers

Glad to hear the positive comments and the endorsement of do it slow, don’t have to zip around. I hope to be pretty laid back about this. Ultimately I too might not get comfortable with the old [470’s]. What’s the power in your new 26?

I might giving you a call about dropping over to see what I have going on, once I have something going on :) A very kind offer.
 
My boat is on a trailer in Powell River, and as of yesterday I’m in PR too. So I’m pretty much good to go. Haha — All I need is:
1. Shop space to work on at least one engine and probably both drives, and … (everything else).
2. Covered spot for the boat. For now I have uncovered parking, with no easy way to sling out an engine.
3. A place to live. For now I can crash with my brother.
4. Maybe be some tools. For now I have a socket set and a pair of coveralls. And Mercruiser Service Manual #8.
5. Last (for now) but not least, a marine mechanic with time on their hands who wishes there was a project they could help somebody out with.

Those should be easy enough to find, right? Anyone have any helpful leads?

Getting more serious, I’m looking for some modest shop space. (Say something like sttr’s, for maybe $200 a month. !!!!??! OK fine — $225.). And if the rest of it falls into place — I’ll know I’m having a good dream and I better get up and get to work.
 
I think I have everything u need on your list covered. I will give u a job. U can rent out a spot in my yard, I have a covered area, a forklift, u can borrow my tools, u can live on the commander until it’s done, and when noluck comes to show off his truck you can speak with a marine mechanic. Do you know how to glass by any chance?

X2 for running her on one engine, maybe get a big kicker
 
River Boy has a great point of view.
I myself just bought my second Commander 26. I sold the last one as I was terrified of the old 165's. The guy I sold it to is a marine machinic and he bought it because of these motors, says they are the best. Something about extra bearings in the motor so are bullet proof.
The gentleman I got my boat from was not handy, he gave me a folder with almost 100k worth of receipts from the last 4 years. I couldn't believe the money he had spent on the boat, he needed one more repair on the boat and that was his breaking point. He sold it to me.
I loved my last Commander, so solid and comfortable for a 26, everything you need to have a great dry weekend or week away with all the comforts I had to have another one.
You have a great boat. I am fairly handy so the costs of most things are minimal for me to do and staying on top of the problems that come along will give you a high end experience that you can't beat for the cost.
Give your self lots of time, pick the tides, run on one motor at 8 knots and you can do anything and fish anywhere in style for the season.
I am so happy to have another Commander 26. Great boat and great experiences had always.
If you are close to C/r I would be happy to drop over and have look at what you have going on.
Cheers
Did you grab the one mid island that came up last week on Facebook?
 
I think I have everything u need on your list covered. I will give u a job. U can rent out a spot in my yard, I have a covered area, a forklift, u can borrow my tools, u can live on the commander until it’s done, and when noluck comes to show off his truck you can speak with a marine mechanic. Do you know how to glass by any chance?

That sounds pretty good. If you move it all to Powell River, I'll start Googling "How to glass".
 
I think I have everything u need on your list covered. I will give u a job. U can rent out a spot in my yard, I have a covered area, a forklift, u can borrow my tools, u can live on the commander until it’s done, and when noluck comes to show off his truck you can speak with a marine mechanic. Do you know how to glass by any chance?

X2 for running her on one engine, maybe get a big kicker
stopped by today, lol
 
River Boy has a great point of view.
I myself just bought my second Commander 26. I sold the last one as I was terrified of the old 165's. The guy I sold it to is a marine machinic and he bought it because of these motors, says they are the best. Something about extra bearings in the motor so are bullet proof.
The gentleman I got my boat from was not handy, he gave me a folder with almost 100k worth of receipts from the last 4 years. I couldn't believe the money he had spent on the boat, he needed one more repair on the boat and that was his breaking point. He sold it to me.
I loved my last Commander, so solid and comfortable for a 26, everything you need to have a great dry weekend or week away with all the comforts I had to have another one.
You have a great boat. I am fairly handy so the costs of most things are minimal for me to do and staying on top of the problems that come along will give you a high end experience that you can't beat for the cost.
Give your self lots of time, pick the tides, run on one motor at 8 knots and you can do anything and fish anywhere in style for the season.
I am so happy to have another Commander 26. Great boat and great experiences had always.
If you are close to C/r I would be happy to drop over and have look at what you have going on.
Cheers
Thanks. I’m in PR for at least a few more days. I don’t know if that meets the “close to c/r” condition but if you are so inclined, DM me and head over anytime.
 
Update. Feeling optimistic. Lengthy post with Headings:

General.

The boat looks in good condition and appears to have been very well cared for for the most part. Very good news, considering I bought the boat in online auction, sight unseen, with no info except 2000 hours on engine gauges, and “engine condition unknown” 😳.

I’ve been in PR for three weeks, and lucked in on my fantasy wish list items:
#5. On day two, I struck gold in the form of a helpful neighbour. He’s very willing to help, he worked for ten years as an engine rebuilder, AND he runs a 470 in his boat and has two spares in the garage. Hallelujah!
#4. My brother, nephew, and neighbour are generous with tools.
3. My brother and I haven’t driven each crazy other yet. (Bourbon consumption is increasing though 😄)
1 and 2. The boat is still parked uncovered, but it’s conveniently right outside the door. I haven’t needed shop space.

I’ve been working on the boat at a very leisurely pace. ( @InterMechanico: “proceed in a manner that keeps you on a timetable as much as possible”). I’m trying, but not very hard 🙂. The mixed blessing of being newly retired. Can’t resist going prawning and boating when the opportunity arises (two days with four traps down, $50 in gas, 16 prawns — beautiful calm days on the water though, and some if those prawns are Big! 😀). Also can’t resist the distractions on board: shining up random things here and there (my boat might not be seaworthy, but man, those newly laundered curtains sure look better), tracing random hoses and wires out of curiosity, sitting at the helm and daydreaming, … .

Engines.

Nice to hear the port engine run. Started it up for a few minutes on muffs, lots of raw water out the leg, shifts ok and all sounds good to my inexperienced ear.

Stbd engine: replaced one lifter, head back on. Tried start. Starter didn’t turn from helm key. It did when jumped directly from battery. About to check wiring between key and starter.

Also, exhaust elbow badly corroded at coolant ports. I have a spare from neighbour, but it looks pretty badly corroded at the other end. I’ll use it for now, if we can get the plug and hose connection out to swap them to match my cooling configuration.
Any recommendations for sources of new or used exhaust elbow?
Exhaust manifold is also pretty badly corroded at the same coolant ports, so if I keep these engines a while I willhave to find a better used one. Recommendations for that?

Wiring.

Boat came with two 12v and two 6V. I was baffled for a while by the multitude of leads from all four batteries, but it boils down to: both engines and some house were being run off one 12v. The other batteries were basically being used as connectors.

Other house stuff was on a cable that was disconnected. I think I should check the load end of all the house wiring before I connect it. Is that necessary? There’s lots of it, and seems not easily accessible to trace.

One 12v was shot. The two 6V in series looked shot too, but the cells were bone dry. After filling them and 3-4 days on trickle charge it looks like they might have some service in them.

I got a new battery, which I might not need, but I’ll put it in. I’ll use the old one for starter and the two 6s for house and see if they last, with the new one ready if they don’t. The charger is a three-battery ProSport 20 Plus; the manual says not to operate it without all three sets connected to individual batteries.


Steering.

The steering lines are disconnected at the cabin helm. Connected at the bridge helm. No idea why. I’ll flush and bleed them and reconnect and see if the reason is suddenly obvious! Hopefully there’s nothing to be done at the after end, because the hydraulic ram and steering rods look like a real challenge to access behind the engines.

Equipment.

The boat was stripped of everything that could be used elsewhere or sold. No electronics at all (original gauges are here and working), no dinghy, no anchor, chain, or rode, windlass motor removed, no fenders, no life jackets, trumpets removed from horn, no bilge pump, …
So I have some shopping to do, at least the regulation safety gear.
And equip myself with the PCL.

Oh, and check the through-hulls.

And then sea trials, see if it floats! Exciting! 😀

If I’m missing anything important, someone here will tell me. Please!!
 
Dry battery cells are concerning.
Voltage Regulator could be shot and they are boiling dry.
Keep a very close eye on levels and voltage.
 
Lower helm could have shot seals and therefore disconnected. Prepare for leaks once you connect it. Steering fluid is expensive and a b!tch to clean up.
 
Lower helm could have shot seals and therefore disconnected. Prepare for leaks once you connect it. Steering fluid is expensive and a b!tch to clean up.
I’ll be watching for both —batteries and steering leaks. And placing good protection under the steering connectors. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Well its been quite a while since my May 6 post. Work continued at the very leisurely pace for three more weeks, I was away for two, and have been back at the boat for one week. Now the stbd engine is running and sounds nice! But only for a minute, because there is no raw water flow. I've had the lower drive off, changed the impeller and housing (housing looked okay, seal to pump base looked intact, but housing had overheated enough that the washers on the pump mounting bolts were slightly sunk into the housing). Flushed all segments of the raw water system in both directions with garden hose, from the intakes in the leg to the outlet at the propeller hub. The water flowed freely, and no debris washed out of the system. Reinstalled, started engine. Proved the shaft was turning (propeller rotated when in forward and reverse). Still zero water flow at inlet to heat exchanger. I had been careful to ensure the key on the drive shaft engaged in the impeller when instilling the impeller. So I'm pretty much stumped. The only other step I can think of is to replace the pump base along with the associated seals even though there was nothing visually wrong with it, and doubt that even bad seals at that end would result in zero flow from pump. But with that will have replaced all components of the pump.

Please pass along any other suggestions!
 
A little more on the stbd engine: I replaced the exhaust elbow with an old one from a friend. It also was pretty corroded but not as bad as mine. After three rounds of hand filing the faces on the elbow and the manifold to reduce the pitted area, the joint still leaked under a cooling system pressure test. One more round of filing and reinstalled with a little RTV high temp sealant. The pressure is holding nicely. We'll see how long that lasts, but it will get me onto the water to see how the boat feels.

When the engines were running there was significant coolant leakage from the ends of both heat exchangers. Removed the end plates. They were dished from overtightening. Pounded them flat, replaced the gaskets (cut gaskets from cork, didn't have rubber), used a little RTV sealant when reassembling. They are holding fine now.

The port engine, which ran nicely in May, wouldn't start yesterday. Weak spark from coil. In the process of swapping the coil from the stbd engine to confirm the problem was the coil, I didn't note the wiring to coil on either engine. DUH!! I may have found the correct wiring on a youtube video, but haven't tried it yet. Can anyone say which post on the coil each of the five wires should connect to?

Apart from that, nothing significant to report. Still haven't reconnected steering and tested. And the two six volt batteries charged up to 13 volts but discharged almost immediately when connected any load, so they're gone now.

I'll try to solve the water pump problem and spark problem before I leave tomorrow for four weeks, so helpful suggestions will be appreciated.
 
My boat is named LINUS. Does anyone know any of her history? It would be nice to know more about her and maybe talk to previous owners about their experience with her.

On the other hand, considering how often we speak of boats as women, that may be a very, very bad idea!!!! The last thing anyone would ever want to do!
 
My boat is named LINUS. Does anyone know any of her history? It would be nice to know more about her and maybe talk to previous owners about their experience with her.

On the other hand, considering how often we speak of boats as women, that may be a very, very bad idea!!!! The last thing anyone would ever want to do!
She was at a Langley auction when I bought her in December 2022. All I know is she was initially purchased (1983) by someone from Edmonton, and recently owned by a business owner in Surrey.

I have a feeling that she was cruising on one engine in the past few years. The stbd engine was not running when I bought her, and the port engine had 2300 hours, the stbd engine 1900.
 
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