Sooke Whalewatching Company Directly Asking for Sportfishing to Close

Just past the average lifespan of a male orca.... if there wasnt enough Chinook for him - would he have made it to ripe old age?

lol that's like saying if a fat person dies from covid, its covid, but if a skinny person dies of covid its malnutrition. did the sickness cause the malnutrition or did the malnutrition cause the sickness.

i suppose if we stuck a feed tube down its neck maybe it would of lasted long enough to died from what ever was killing it.
 
lol that's like saying if a fat person dies from covid, its covid, but if a skinny person dies of covid its malnutrition. did the sickness cause the malnutrition or did the malnutrition cause the sickness.

i suppose if we stuck a feed tube down its neck maybe it would of lasted long enough to died from what ever was killing it.
Well said - exactly...
 

Apparently, their humpback cousins up north have been enjoying a harassment-free life lately. Who's harassing the whales and making their lives more miserable? Whalwatching boats or sport anglers??
 
Posted on behalf of the Public Fishery Alliance ... Your Facebook post has come to the attention of the directors of the Public Fishery Alliance (PFA). We are an advocacy group for public access to salmon. We are also advocates for salmon recovery. The majority of our members, which include retired DFO and Federal Environment Ministry senior staff have been involved in fishery issues for many decades, including putting in countless thousands of hours working in streams to maintain habitats to restore and sustain Chinook, Coho and other salmon species. These volunteers have raised millions of dollars for these projects, and have been doing so for decades. There is a local project which the PFA recently supported by funding an excellent video short that the organization will be able to use to raise funds. It is to produce more Chinook for whales to eat as they transit Juan de Fuca Strait. This group is the Southern Vancouver Island Anglers Coalition (Watch the PFA video here: https://publicfisheryalliance.ca/sooke-chinook.../ ). In the last four years SVIAC has raised over $300,000 to rear 2,500,000 juvenile Chinook salmon in a temporary enclosure in Sooke, where they have been released into the wild to return as adults in 3 to 5 years. The primary intent is to produce more large adult Chinook as food for the endangered SRKW’s while they transit Juan de Fuca Strait in advance of their fall prey food uncertainty. Yes, some of these fish will be caught by various fisheries, including potential terminal fisheries conducted by local First Nations who also support the project, some will be eaten by other mammals including northern pods of resident fish-eating whales. DFO has recently confirmed the project appears to be meeting its goal of adding to the food supply for SRKWs. It would be important for the followers of your Facebook posts to understand that this project was financially supported by multiple members of the Pacific Whale Watching Association, of which you are not a member. SVIAC has also confirmed that no financial contributions have been received from your organization towards this endeavour. Furthermore, when the SRKW issue came to the forefront a few years ago anglers from the Sooke participated in data collection programs, as did other anglers along the coast, specifically to determine prey availability. These multi-year projects were run by Dr. Andrews Trites from UBC’s Marine Mammal Research Unit. So here are the lessons you need to learn: First, don’t take what might well be a natural event (the sad death of a sick whale that has reached the expected 30-50 year life span, and appears to be the outlier in terms of the overall condition of the pod it was traveling with) and turn this into an opportunity to take shots at an entire group of Canadians, many of whom are volunteers. Especially when it is not dying of starvation. Anglers have been digging into their own pockets to help the very whales you need to sustain your own business interests. Second, in a post on your Facebook page just two days prior to this attack on the public fishery, you noted that it’s great to see them back and they appear like they are healthy and having fun. Two days later it’s all doom, gloom and starvation because, in your opinion, recreational anglers will be allowed to retain one Chinook per day. There haven’t been rods in the water for Chinook since April 1st for three years in a row. A comprehensive suite of area closures to protect whales and restrictions to conserve Chinook has been put into place already. Third, apparently you see nothing wrong with assigning blame to hard working Canadians who make a living from fishing, while falling to draw the same comparisons to your own operation. Do you understand the point here? Fourth, all you have achieved from this is to stir the pot unnecessarily without a scintilla of evidence that this whale died because of something that recreational anglers did. And, judging from the response to your post you have stirred that pot. The PFA goal is to have everyone who has interests in salmon going in the same direction. Anglers and whale watchers have achieved that, your post puts that cooperation at risk and rekindles old disagreements between the two groups. Finally, there are Chinook in Juan de Fuca, Georgia Strait, Puget Sound, and especially off the west coast of Vancouver Island where they have been particularly strong for most of this year. The whales are foraging where the best foraging opportunities are. While a number of important Chinook stocks in BC are depressed, such as the Upper Fraser River runs, which triggered Chinook non-retention, others are improving such as Georgia Strait Chinook. These 14 indicator stocks recorded over 57,000 Chinook returns in 2020 compared to 36,000 for the previous 12-year average. This was done through restoration, enhancement and sensible harvest regulations that did not shut down recreational fisheries. In fact, an estimated 30,000 of those weak Upper Fraser Chinook have already passed the monitoring station 40 km above the Big Bar slide this year. And, you should know, the majority of salmon retained by anglers are below 15 lbs, not the preferred large adults a Southern Resident Orca would forage upon. Maximum size limits, which require anglers to release large Chinook, further add to the available food supply. As noted, the PFA advocates for the public fishery. Part of that is to rebuke unsubstantiated erroneous opinion that crops up wherever it appears. Your Facebook post falls into that category and the Board of Directors of the PFA call for the removal of that section of you post, and a public apology from your company to those anglers who are actually doing the work, mainly at their own expense, to ensure there are salmon for whales, anglers and other legitimate fishing interests into the future. PUBLICFISHERYALLIANCE.CA
 
Thanks for sharing that post WOLF . I hope people boycott and get the message out there that this one company only takes from the resource and does not give back !!! complete greed !!! and choose the repeatable company's that are trying to make a difference and support enhancement. There is no place for this BS and miss information, we all need to work together
 
Andrew trites on CKNW today at 11:36am debunking the lack of chinook reporting.

 
Andrew trites on CKNW today at 11:36am debunking the lack of chinook reporting.


Good.
 
Well someone should send this to him he is a scientist too with 2.5 years under his belt whale watching..Thank you andrew trites someone wo REALLY knows whats going on
 
Like Dr Andrew Trites told us a couple years ago when we met him...NGO groups and those who think like them will exploit something for an agenda. Taking a picture of a skin and bones polar bear and claim it is caused by global warming. (i believe in global warming BTW) But when the picture is shown to a qualified person like a vet the answer is ...the bear is sick likely cancer and hasn't eaten for that reason. Is all of K pod in an emaciated state...no, just this one individual. It is sick not starving...a big difference and could be attributed to the fact that our killer whales have the highest load of heavy metals and other contaminants in their fat stores. Maybe direct your efforts to fix that.
 

Apparently, their humpback cousins up north have been enjoying a harassment-free life lately. Who's harassing the whales and making their lives more miserable? Whalwatching boats or sport anglers??
I’m hoping the whales are around. This one came to us while we were drifting and fixing rods and cutting bait.

. A few years back but it was priceless.
 
Really lack of food?

So many salmon in the inside straight, and fuca right now its ridiculous

Honestly if I was going to send myself to sea to rest race rocks is not a bad spot. That current will take you anywhere
 
I was just made aware of this post today from local whale watching company in Sooke.



From the FB post:

Sadly, we are following up our previous post regarding the #srkw returning to the Salish Sea with a grim finding by a fellow whale watcher yesterday afternoon.

Yesterday evening at approximately 5pm we recieved a call regarding a badly emaciated killer whale that had been spotted in Race Passage. The whale was identified as K21 (Cappucino) the last surviving member of the K18 matriline.
K21 is/was badly emaciated. His dorsal fin was flopped over to the side and he could barely swim against the flooding current flowing through Race Passage.
We immediately contacted @cetus_society and the Department of Fisheries and Oceans. As there were no vessels available to immediately get on scene and document the event, our vessel was tasked by DFO to acquire the location of the animal.

By the time we had arrive 30min later, the animal had barely moved at all from his original reported location. He was fighting for his life in the current and was all alone without his travelling companions. Just a couple of hours earlier, the remainder of the SRKW that had entered the Strait of Juan de Fuca had turned around an left after spending less than 36hours foraging here. K21, too weak to continue, was unfortunately left behind.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD SIGN!!

The Salmon stocks in the Salish Sea have never been worse, and in 2 days, our local waters will be once again flooded with fishing boats who will be competing with these animals for this very limited food supply.
IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE RODS OUT OF THE WATER!

The survival of the Southern Residents and the Chinook Salmon themselves is much more important than the desire to harvest these fish "for entertainment and personal gain". If we do not take responsibility for the harm we are causing to our oceans, grim scenes like this will only become more common.

This morning at 4:30am, members of K pod were heard on the hydrophone located at Sheringham Point. These animals likely returning to check on the status of their lost traveling companion. At roughly 35 years of age, K21 is far too young to die and will be sadly missed by his clan, and whale lovers everywhere

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A person on the coast told me that orcas only eat salmon… however I had an orca eat my halibut that was speared and floating under a float. Sooo. They eat halibut as well. It seems general public perception has built to believe all salmon are needed for whales… however outside of the runs…what are orcas eating? There can’t be enough winter chinooks to sustain pods?
 
Well - 1st admitting I'm not a marine mammal specialist but rather that I like to stay current on these issues, here's what I know about Orcas/KWs:

1/ The fish-eating specialists are the residents which are divided into the 75ish-odd endangered SRKWs of concern and their 3 pods, and the 300+ NRSWs which are expanding both their numbers and their ranges altho still listed as threatened. These orcas focus on the biggest fish they can find if they are available, particularly but not exclusively Chinook (which has implications as to egg deposit into the streams), as well as chum and eating halibut off of longlines and whatever else they can find.
2/ The ~400 Transients/Biggs eat marine mammals of all species if they can get them: seals, sea lions, otters, porpoise, etc. Their dorsal fins are larger and more pointed, the saddle patches are more defined and not occluded by black unlike the residents and they generally are quite quiet since they know their sounds might alert their prey to their presence. If you see a seal on top and clinging to a drifting log you can be pretty sure transients are nearby. Their numbers are also expanding, and finally
3/ The 500+ offshore orcas which eat sharks - particularly 6-gilled sharks - that rarely come close to shore.
 
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