sewage

[reelfast]

so Esquimalt stops the permitting for the sewage treatment plant. wonderful! so 1 million gallons of raw sewage an hour continues to pour into the strait from the third world country of Van Isle. keep up the good work folks..............

 

[SpringVelocity]

Isn't Hanford in Washington state? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site. The site of the most nuclear waste in north america that keeps pouring into the Columbia river the very fish we all depend on too sports fish?

The US is notorious for dumping very toxic waste which frightens me more, and that river goes right in ocean. That seems third world as well. I am not saying what Vic is doing is right I am just saying your country isn't innocent either.... Its not that easy to put in...Lots of planning and municipalities have to be on board. I am sure they will figure it out. They need to get going soon 2020 has to be in place.

 

[Dogbreath]

so Esquimalt stops the permitting for the sewage treatment plant. wonderful! so 1 million gallons of raw sewage an hour continues to pour into the strait from the third world country of Van Isle. keep up the good work folks..............

Before I read you post right through I was thinking about how a stupid mess like this reads like a movie made about some third world hellhole-how those responsible can sleep @ night I will never understand.

 

[pescador]

Reel fast,couldn't agree more. Guess this means you won't be fishing anymore on the Island.

 

[SpringVelocity]

This another interesting find...for the mainland guys...some stuff in here I didn't know about Vancouver.

http://www.bucksuzuki.org/images/uploads/docs/Hidden_Killer.pdf

 

[ziggy]

Hey reelfast how's the delisting of the elk herd in your state going. I understand the snowmobile community feels there is no longer enough of them to qualify for endangered protection? How's the California farmers move to delist the orcas so they can drain the salmon rivers? I guess you know third world!

 

[finaddict]

Looks like we are all living in glass houses and throwing far too many stones. There are no innocent parties in either country, and as consumers of energy, and releasers of waste, we are all guilty

 

[fish stalker]

Im mystified as to why Esquimalt doesn't want a sewage treatment plant in the middle of a residential neighbourhood its the ideal location!

 

[eroyd]

We're working on the sewer thing. Many want it done right, those wanting to appear politically correct want to push through the proposed hair brained plan which included piping crap into the poorer communities and only half asses treating it. Don't forget we live on a rock and can't just dig a hole anywhere.

A personal friend of mine has taken video of the present outfall. Marine life flourishes there.

 

[Kildonan]

We're working on the sewer thing. Many want it done right, those wanting to appear politically correct want to push through the proposed hair brained plan which included piping crap into the poorer communities and only half asses treating it. Don't forget we live on a rock and can't just dig a hole anywhere.

A personal friend of mine has taken video of the present outfall. Marine life flourishes there.

Don't forget that they want to take the dried
Sludge and spray it in the forests and maybe on farms. It will be cool when the rain washes it into our streams.

 

[reelfast]

this has been an issue for over 20 years now. I would think the siting for this plant would have been resolved some time ago. I see our governor just kicked this up a notch today. I can see the boycott of the 60s repeating itself in the very near future. good thing you islanders don't rely on the tourist trade for your summer bucks.

PS - pointing out a variety of issues in WA is not an excuse for not taking action. no other metropolitan in the developed world is this blatant with their lack of concern for our shared environment.

 

[ziggy]

Not all trolling is done on the water!

 

[reelfast]

Not all trolling is done on the water!

with the gov raising the stakes, NPR is now following this issue and broadcasting this story across the country. if that's trolling, excuse me. time to let all citizens know how you are taking care of our shared environment.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/a...ewage-flowing-into-strait-fouls-washington-bc

 

[ziggy]

Coming from the co leader of world wide pollution this is indeed rich. You probably aren't aware that the US and China now account for 50% of the worlds pollution. So yes I'd say trolling, or perhaps just horribly misinformed. You may want to educate yourself on the issue, starting with the 95 cross border BC/WA panel on this issue.Then again you appear to be a writing guy not a reading one. Do us all a favour and start the boycott by staying off this site!

 

[bigdogeh]

not sure why this has become an us versus them issue. what's wrong is wrong, and dumping untreated waste into the ocean is certainly wrong. I believe they've been doing it in halifax harbour also for years. makes me (and others) sick when I think about it... especially in this day and age,

 

[ziggy]

The main stumbling block has been that Health and the Scientific community have essentially not given the treatment proposal a ringing endorsement. There is tons of info available online if you are interested. Things aren't as clear cut as Mr. Floatie and friends would have you believe.

 

[Charlie]

Ziggy,
He isn't trolling, but you might be? When you are referring to a U.S. and China "outdated" number that both countries are working on. Plus, that number is total “Environment Pollution Carbon Dioxide from fossil fuels,” which does include carbon dioxide emissions from the consumption of petroleum, natural gas, and coal, and the flaring of natural gas. Remember, that is total output and from two of the largest countries.

Now, if you really want to find out which country(s) are doing the most damage based on “Metric Tons of Carbon Dioxide per Person (Capita) that just might make things look a little different. China certainly does have a problem with air quality (and smog - think LA there also). However, Canada is right up there with the U.S. and both dump almost three times more per “capita” than China. How's that make you (and the rest of us) feel?

Table: (Metric Tons of Carbon Dioxide per Person)
	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010
Gibraltar	157.1123	161.5519	158.5474	168.907	171.2804
Virgin Islands, U.S.	153.9875	137.2812	120.7759	142.5476	146.46
Netherlands Antilles	54.02841	48.40131	47.0003	53.75608	50.52637
Singapore	29.65234	30.76566	31.485	38.2014	44.47704
United Arab Emirates	36.41102	38.6097	42.36917	42.87788	43.09309
Trinidad and Tobago	38.23321	37.8348	40.24586	38.88591	42.56567
Qatar	52.11684	46.99743	44.78303	43.59951	39.68457
Kuwait	33.07964	31.36695	32.0972	33.04028	34.00905
Bahrain	27.67502	27.13854	27.00873	26.39861	25.92543
Luxembourg	26.24788	25.28934	24.61103	23.25607	24.43069
Brunei	27.69101	28.01321	28.16748	18.92882	21.38953
Australia	20.46273	20.42403	20.2423	19.9567	19.6929
Malta	7.35179	7.72527	7.87288	16.49286	19.67745
Nauru	18.08468	19.36039	20.29251	19.69883	19.58404
United States	19.85487	20.00551	19.21966	17.71768	18.2224
Saudi Arabia	16.71664	16.02927	16.92135	17.28009	18.21591
Oman	12.72317	13.22729	15.33297	15.82509	17.77325
Montserrat	16.48649	18.39982	18.23495	16.32816	16.26435
Canada	18.32026	18.00736	17.41046	16.41474	16.19242
China	4.55126	4.82714	5.07541	5.72184	6.01218
France	6.56143	6.62549	6.67306	5.97942	5.98488
Mexico	4.0666	4.08709	4.11798	3.78668	3.84293
Iraq	3.41451	3.61564	3.69104	3.88978	3.82653
Korea, North	3.1861	2.63257	2.89322	2.75426	2.65846
Egypt	2.04065	2.08654	2.34035	2.34356	2.36837
Brazil	2.04033	2.10957	2.22454	2.09756	2.30272
Indonesia	1.5311	1.58214	1.55582	1.6854	1.703
Costa Rica	1.55403	1.66701	1.62473	1.5553	1.55562
Fiji	2.68964	2.92241	2.72408	1.5656	1.51949
Colombia	1.45235	1.41936	1.46355	1.45339	1.49209
Belize	3.36187	3.4914	3.44883	1.5222	1.48914
Peru	1.21773	1.20276	1.28005	1.29316	1.44692
India	1.15621	1.21535	1.29038	1.38107	1.36495
Vietnam	0.98809	1.04304	1.18143	1.18174	1.35479
Bolivia	1.38448	1.37534	1.45843	1.33037	1.33285
Africa	1.13611	1.13864	1.18019	1.13383	1.12619
El Salvador	1.04419	1.05727	0.98758	0.98373	0.97758
Honduras	1.02073	1.10512	1.03693	0.92667	0.94984
Philippines	0.81504	0.78399	0.77465	0.70783	0.78353
Pakistan	0.75371	0.79836	0.77753	0.77715	0.76943
Nigeria	0.69734	0.66313	0.6459	0.43201	0.45601
Afghanistan	0.02821	0.04797	0.05745	0.22502	0.22751
Laos	0.21192	0.22045	0.23078	0.23224	0.2238
Burma (Myanmar)	0.29362	0.30961	0.28414	0.22534	0.22292
Haiti	0.19276	0.20927	0.20807	0.23005	0.21969
Somalia	0.0847	0.09328	0.09176	0.08464	0.0833
Ethiopia	0.06737	0.07246	0.07918	0.08349	0.07494
Central African Republic	0.07299	0.07864	0.07324	0.07182	0.0703
Rwanda	0.08439	0.07323	0.06939	0.07118	0.06881
Malawi	0.08289	0.08142	0.08164	0.06391	0.06248
Mali	0.05056	0.05044	0.05103	0.04931	0.04783
Congo (Kinshasa)	0.03897	0.04239	0.04071	0.03819	0.04489
Chad	0.02337	0.02702	0.02589	0.0246	0.0241
Burundi	0.04256	0.0381	0.03887	0.02096	0.02015
World	4.43006	4.48383	4.51046	4.45554	4.5898

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Now with that I add... China and the U.S. are both working on their problems and issues. Might I ask, what is Harper "really" doing, other than withdrawing Canada out of every world organization trying to deal with this problem? AND, it really doesn't have anything to do with dumping raw **** into the environment!

Here's the link to the above: http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproje...=8&cid=regions&syid=1980&eyid=2010&unit=MMTCD

 

[ziggy]

Hey Charlie look up the meaning of per capita, totally unrelated to my comment to your pal. You might not be currently the leader, but if you look at per capita figures, multiply them times you population, tell me you aren't one of the leaders in worldwide pollution. Spin it anyway you want, if it makes you feel good and gives you the right to lecture. And frankly any **** dumped into the environment isn't good, even if you think yours don't stink!

 

[Charlie]

Hey Charlie look up the meaning of per capita, totally unrelated to my comment to your pal. You might not be currently the leader, but if you look at per capita figures, multiply them times you population, tell me you aren't one of the leaders in worldwide pollution. Spin it anyway you want, if it makes you feel good and gives you the right to lecture. And frankly any **** dumped into the environment isn't good, even if you think yours don't stink!

He isn't trolling, but you might be?

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[ziggy]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...ohs-victorias-780m-plan-for-new-sewage-plant/