Don't eat wild salmon?????

islandboy

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I've seen this kind of Bee Ess before, that woman is little more than an idiot who has never in her short stupid life thought through the garbage that spews from her mouth.

It's wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start.[xx(]

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This Lady is full of B.S[:0], Plus farmed fish tastes and looks like garbage! Won't catch me eating it,.
 
I think the point she is making is that with salmon numbers down every year and their stocks in trouble around the world maybe we should give them a break and stop ordering them from restaurants. I dont think she is too far off the mark. Keep this in mind. THe more salmon are in demand at the restaurant level the less we will acess to them. Look at what is happening with halibut. I think that is the point she is making.
 
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I think the point she is making is that with salmon numbers down every year and their stocks in trouble around the world maybe we should give them a break and stop ordering them from restaurants. I dont think she is too far off the mark. Keep this in mind. THe more salmon are in demand at the restaurant level the less we will acess to them

All you have to do is convince us that they arn't mushy and gross.

Take only what you need.
 
Howdy,

IF WE DEMAND 'WILD-SALMON'... WE WILL HAVE WILD SALMON!

End of story.
 
I think we need to be more proactive in selling wild salmon - in demanding higher-end products (e.g. flash-frozen chinook from trollers) from BC Packers and other suppliers so that the true worth of salmon is reflected in what is paid to fishermen. It's criminal that they get something like only $2.40/lb for sockeye , $0.40-0.60/lb for chum, and only $0.10-0.15/lb for pinks. Most of these salmon end-up in cans.

To the people of the Northwest, salmon are a lifeblood. Some streams in the south of the province are indeed impacted from urban development, past forestry practices, excess exploitation (from Alaskan, commercial, sports and other fisheries), global warming and/or fish farms.

In the North, fish stocks are generally in much better shape. There are issues some years with some stocks in some areas.

There has been a general decline in overall commercial take in BC over the past 20 years or so - with a corresponding increase in Alaskan take. The level of exploitation and changes in that exploitation from the sports- and commercial-sports industry is largely unknown.

Wild salmon stocks are however - a renewable resource, and have been for thousands of years. One of the ways that we can ensure sustainability of this resource (in addition to in-season management and adequate science) is to encourage adoption of 3rd party certification - such as the Marine Stewardship Council (http://www.msc.org/), which has already certified a number of salmon fisheries world-wide. See:
http://www.msc.org/track-a-fishery/certified/certified-fisheries-on-the-map
 
Quality Mark Provides Better Protection For Fish Stocks Than Does The World Trade Organization

ScienceDaily (Dec. 10, 2008) — The Marine Stewardship Council (MSC), a foundation dedicated to maintaining the health and viability of our oceans, has more of an impact in the area of overfishing than all the agreements entered into by the World Trade Organisation (WTO), concludes dr. Peter Oosterveer of the Environmental Policy group at Wageningen University in the December issue of Ocean and Coastal Management.

There is a great need for global regulations according to the environmental sociologist, as globalisation is making it impossible for national governments or bodies such as the EU to regulate the fishing industry and the related fish processing and trading sectors. Oosterveer therefore compared the relative contributions by WTO regulations and by the MSC to stopping the global deterioration in the stocks of fish in the wild. In brief Oosterveer explains his findings in Resource, magazine for Wageningen University and Research Centre.

The WTO does not deal with the fishing industry itself – that is left to the discretion of national governments – but it does deal with the fish trade. WTO members are presently discussing the abolition of subsidies given by governments to their fishermen, as this leads to unfair competition. Fishing countries such as the USA and New Zealand as well as fishery experts such as Daniel Pauly support such a move, as subsidies encourage unprofitable fishing activities, according to Oosterveer. “But the negotiating parties have not yet agreed on how to deal with the smaller fishermen and on how much of an impact they have on the fish stocks.”

Although the abolition of subsidies can have a positive impact on fish stocks, Oosterveer does not have high expectations of the WTO as a global regulator. “Sustainability requirements play almost no role at all in the negotiations. Besides, they have been deadlocked for 2 years already. In addition, it's impossible to predict what kind of fishing agreements will eventually result. Fishing activities are only one element of the negotiations and can therefore be used as something to be given up in return for reaching agreement on the overall package.”

The MSC was established 11 years ago by Unilever, which was concerned about the availability of sufficient fish for its fish sticks, and by the Worldwide Fund for Nature, which was concerned about biodiversity. The result was a sustainability quality mark to distinguish fish which complies with the relevant requirements. By now, 3.5 million tons of fish foodstuff products, representing 7% of the global catch of fish and crustaceans, display this quality mark. Now that all Dutch supermarkets have agreed that, starting in 2011, they will sell only products displaying the MSC quality mark, this percentage will increase.

But MSC also has its limitations, explains Oosterveer. “The fish products concerned are sold primarily in wealthy countries in the northern hemisphere. This is because MSC enters into agreements with fishermen, traders and retailers throughout the chain. This requires the availability of sustainability indicators and supply chain management, which is a difficult issue in developing countries.” As it turns out, it proved difficult to enter into agreements with shrimp farmers in Southeast Asia. “A great many fish farmers are involved, and they work in very poor conditions. But it's not easy to take social circumstances into account within the framework of assigning the quality mark.”

Nevertheless, Oosterveer considers the type of approach illustrated by the MSC quality mark to be a promising one. “Compared to the WTO approach which ends up deadlocked on technical and political issues, this private initiative is a much more dynamic one.”
Adapted from materials provided by Wageningen University and Research Centre.
 
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