Damnit thats a Tuna! 881 lbs

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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-catches-881-pound-tuna-seized-feds-194650751.html

A Massachusetts fisherman pulled in an 881-pound tuna this week only to have the federal authorities take it away. It sounds like a libertarian twist on the classic novella by Ernest Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea, but for Carlos Rafael, the saga is completely true.

Rafael and his crew were using nets to catch bottom-dwellers when they inadvertently snagged the giant tuna. However, federal fishery enforcement agents took control of the behemoth when the boat returned to port. The reason for the seizure was procedural: While Rafael had tuna permits, fishermen are by law only allowed to catch tuna with a rod and reel.

It would seem that unlike the fictional New England shark hunters in Jaws, Rafael didn't need a bigger boat, just a better permit.

In an interview with the Standard-Times of New Bedford, Rafael disputes the claims from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) enforcement division that the humungous tuna was trawled from the bottom of the Atlantic. "They didn't catch that fish on the bottom," he said. "They probably got it in the mid-water when they were setting out and it just got corralled in the net. That only happens once in a blue moon."

And while Rafael is denied the mother of all fish stories, the federal impoundment of his catch also means he's probably losing out on a giant payday. A 754-pound tuna recently sold for nearly $396,000. NOAA regulators do not share any of the proceeds from the fish's eventual sale with a fisherman found in violation of federal rules.

"They said it had to be caught with rod and reel," a frustrated Rafael said. "We didn't try to hide anything. We did everything by the book. Nobody ever told me we couldn't catch it with a net."

Rafael says he has meticulously prepared for a giant catch like this, purchasing 15 tuna permits over the past four years for his groundfish boats. He even immediately called a "bluefin tuna hot line" (yes, such things exist) to report his catch. "I wanted to sell the fish while it was fresh instead of letting it age on the boat," he said. "It was a beautiful fish."

Proceeds of the sale from the fish will be held in an account until the case is resolved, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Office of Law Enforcement. "The matter is still under investigation," said Monica Allen, deputy director with NOAA Fisheries public affairs. "If it's determined that there has been a violation, the money will go into the asset forfeiture fund."

UPDATE (CON'T):

"We understand why the fishermen, his crew and everyone was excited about this giant animal. This is an amazing fish," Allen said in an interview with The Sideshow.

"We understand the fisherman inadvertently caught this tuna and although he had purchased permits to catch tuna these permits did not allow the catch or landing of bluefin tuna in a trawl net. The permits he had required the use of specific hand gear, a rod and reel, a harpoon or a handline, to catch, land and keep such a tuna."

Allen explained that the bluefin tuna off the coast of the U.S. has been depleted to between 21 and 29 percent of their historic population

"This rule is important to the conservation of this unusual fish that is severely depleted and managed internationally by more than 48 nations," Allen said. "Because they are slow to mature and reproduce, rebuilding this species population is a lengthy and difficult process."



frickin' hard luck losing that pig to some regs...one hell of a bycatch!
 
Trawlers should be wiped out from the face of this earth! They literally destroy entire oceans with everything that floats in them. Too bad they only took his tuna.
 
I think he should know the rules when it comes to his career. Ignorance is not a reason to get yourself on TV. He is a poacher.
 
Poaching will only increase with the value of the commodity. When a 750 lb fish is worth $400,000 you can kiss em goodbye. Bluefin is near collapse in the Eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean from overfishing already. Hate to be the harbinger of these less than optimistic posts, just trying to get the word out. I think it's important to increase awareness about all issues relating to the environment.

The Western Black rhino, just officially announced extinct in the wild. Rhino horns are worth too much on the black market. Used as traditional medicine in China (male virility being one aspect of that "medicine"), retarded, a huge pet peeve of mine. Other species of Rhino will go the same route, it's inevitable. You'll never stop poachers from killing them all when they're worth so much money. I remember years ago black bears in Ontario were being found dead everywhere and only their gall bladders were taken out - again for the asian "traditional" market. That older generation needs to die off, the younger generation to a large extent does not believe in the same "traditional" medicines. Tiger penus anyone? Again for male virility in the chinese traditional market.

Shark fin soup? A whole other topic of discussion. Man, sharks are seriously in decline, it's scary how many are being killed for soup. Interestingly enough the fins are just for texture they add nothing to the taste of the soup. Chinas' emerging middle class needs a huge increase in consumer awareness to stop this crap.

I have no problem with hunting but I have a massive problem with hunting something to extinction especially for money, "traditional medicines", to impress people (shark fin soup) or a trophy.

Just putting it out there......:)
 
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hear hear Weff Im with ya on all points. I hope that is true about the younger generation not believing/supporting those markets. Thats also why I would never travel there. Boycott as much overseas products as possible. Did you see the shark documentary a few years ago..oh man. I will never get the picture of them fining a live shark and throwing it back in the ocean and watching it struggling to swim and it fall to the ocean floor. *^&^ that ******** were is your respect for other living things.
 
I remember years ago black bears in Ontario were being found dead everywhere and only their gall bladders were taken out - again for the asian "traditional" market. That older generation needs to die off, the younger generation to a large extent does not believe in the same "traditional" medicines.

Heard that this is going on right now here in the valley.
Bears are being baited then killed for paws and other parts.
Don't know all the details but if true it's a sad commentary of the society we live in.
GLG
 
I'm with you on this one Weff. While many of the medicines we have today have been derived from natural remedies there is no longer any reason for most of the wildlife related "cures". The majority of these with the exception of the culinary delicacies, are for male libido issues. Come on, we have had Viagra and Cialis for how many years now? And I'm pretty sure they are a hell of lot cheaper than some black market dried/powdered bear gall bladder. While cultural tradition is important to people, I think you are correct in saying some of the old ways need to be let go of. Hopefully a younger, more educated, and concerned generation will be able to let go of some of the ideas from the past that are pushing some species to the brink of extinction.

I think the biggest reason they are even an issue any more is the financial one. As long as there are customers for this type of stuff there will be black market dealers looking to make a buck no matter what the result.

As far as this guy and his fish, Damn that's a big tuna! Too bad he doesn't know how to read the regs.
 
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Speaking of shark fins, do the find of dog fish (mud shark) work. We might be on to something.
 
....I just like the giant fish, not how it was caught. Had an inkling this would insight a passionate post or two!

Weff, was it not the Western Black Rhino that was recently listed as extinct?
 
Weff, was it not the Western Black Rhino that was recently listed as extinct?

You are correct, thanks for clearing that up. I read something on it a couple of weeks ago. It's the old age....:confused:;) I will edit my original post, good on ya for catching that. Weird how I got the "eastern" stuck in my brain.
 
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The whole things reminds me of the tv show Swords,Life on the line..it's ironic how we glorify trophies..I wonder in the end why it only fetched 5K.:confused:
 
Did you see the shark documentary a few years ago..oh man. I will never get the picture of them fining a live shark and throwing it back in the ocean and watching it struggling to swim and it fall to the ocean floor.

I've seen a few stories about it, have watched these assholes fin live sharks and throw them back. If the stats are true and there really has been a 90% decline in shark populations worldwide I don't know what to say. Long-lines that are 60 miles in length....whatever. Can't see a good outcome in the end. Money talks louder than anything else I'm afraid.
 
The whole things reminds me of the tv show Swords,Life on the line..it's ironic how we glorify trophies..I wonder in the end why it only fetched 5K.:confused:

It probably only fetched 5k instead of hundreds of thousands because tuna is a very finicky product and has to be treated with the up-most care to keep the meat in pristine condition you have to immediately bleed them out and blast freeze them or the meat becomes foul or useless from what I have read, having it suffocated and thrashed around in some trawl net for who knows how long before it was brought to the surface i'm sure caused for a very poor end product.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong I have only heard about this a couple of times before.
 
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