I pretty much already told him that I'm not interested. Just wanted to make sure they are garbage. He says he sells a lot of them and they have been good motors. The last thing I'd want is for my main motor to die and then my kicker to die while trying to get home. Think I'll go with a Merc or a Yami and pay the extra cash for peace of mind. Always wondering if your motor is going to die on you or not is probably not a very good feeling. But, if somebody here has had great success with them, i'd be very interested in hearing about it. Although I want an 8 or 9.9, a 6 would probably work ok. He just happened to have a new one sitting in his shop right now and was giving me a pretty good deal.