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4fishn said:
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Wife and family spent Christmas in Hawaii and upon return something spread thru our Family and it was horrible, high temp, headache, terrible congestion, felt like death. One of my granddaughters got so bad went to er one night and they tested said it wasn’t the flu, but must be some virus. Wife and I both had flu shots in The fall
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Both my wife and I had something in January that hung on for weeks. Same thing, chills, fever and a cough that wouldn't go away. She got hit harder than I did and it wasn't like anything we had before.
 
How can anyone believe the numbers that are being reported? Even here in BC we are only testing those that need to be hospitalized or front line workers. Those that get sent home even with symptoms aren't being tested, so the reported numbers are a joke, don't know why they bother with theses daily updates. And dont even get me started on whats going on in the states with Trump claiming their close to cases peaking :rolleyes:
 
Sotally Tober said:
Only concern I have heard is that people wearing a mask tend to touch their face many times as they tend to adjust the mask.
One of the things the ‘experts ‘ say is “don’t touch your face”. Not sure if wearing a mask will help or not, especially if a person keeps touching their face. Might be a false sense of security, just a thought.
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Yes your right, i've heard that many times and those people that don't handle a mask in the proper way shouldn’t be wearing them, i've seen people put it on their
head for a breather, rest it on there chin..now contaminated .. maybe that's why they put that report out, otherwise nurses and doctors wouldn't be wearing them
 
Unreel said:
How can anyone believe the numbers that are being reported? Even here in BC we are only testing those that need to be hospitalized or front line workers. Those that get sent home even with symptoms aren't being tested, so the reported numbers are a joke, don't know why they bother with theses daily updates. And dont even get me started on whats going on in the states with Trump claiming their close to cases peaking :rolleyes:
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Focus on the numbers of people hospitalized and those in ICU's. These numbers have nothing to do with testing protocols and represent a pretty good indication of the trend of the progress (or lack thereof) of the virus. It will be interesting to see today's numbers in this regard, but the last few days these numbers have been fairly flat - which is an indication that the self isolation and physical distancing measures may well be working.
 
A Short Explanation by Jonathan Smith, Yale University
"Hey everybody, as an infectious disease epidemiologist (although a lowly one), at this point I feel morally obligated to provide some information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how they apply to the social distancing measures. Like any good scientist I have noticed two things that are either not articulated or not present in the “literature” of social media. Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these measures very clear and unambiguous. First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means even with these measures we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities in the coming weeks. Our hospitals will be overwhelmed, and people will die that didn’t have to. This may lead some people to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. This enemy that we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not my opinion; this is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. We know what will happen; I want to help the community brace for this impact. Stay strong and with solidarity knowing with absolute certainty that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people begin getting sick and dying around you. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.
Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or a hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again and no one listens. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.
In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they COVID19 coronavirusare about societies working in unison. These measures also take a long time to see the results. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it does. I promise you it does. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a playdate, a haircut, or picking up a needless item at the store, etc. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines all of the work the community has done so far.
Until we get a viable vaccine, this unprecedented outbreak will not be overcome in a grand, sweeping gesture, rather only by the collection of individual choices our community makes in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. My goal in writing this is to prevent communities from getting ‘sucker-punched’ by what the epidemiological community knows will happen in the coming weeks. It will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and become paralyzed by fear, or to ‘cheat’ a little bit in the coming weeks. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit, strategizing, and action to persevere in this time of uncertainty."
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Only 60 something new cases over the last 2 days. Good news but I’m starting to see more people out everywhere
 
wildmanyeah said:
Only 60 something new cases over the last 2 days. Good news but I’m starting to see more people out everywhere
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The roads are definitely a lot busier today compared to the last 2-3 weeks.

Weather will be nice this weekend and I expect the parks and sea wall to be packed
 
I think the numbers are just there to show trends. Not an exact number of cases. Big trend is net infectious cases has gone down nicely over last 9 days. (New cases - recovered)
 
Monday April 6, 2020

Starts around the 2 minute mark
 
Get well soon Boris, the world is pulling for you.
For those that don't know The PM of the UK went to the hospital yesterday and has been transferred to the ICU this afternoon.
 
I wouldn't feel to peachy about the numbers coming out of BC. The province is not testing enough to compare it to other provinces. Currently it is 6th in the country for testing (test per/1 MM).

Many other provinces need to step it up. If it's the public health labs that are the bottle neck, then contract it out Like other provinces have done.
 

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There must be a time lag on the testing and any reaction in bending the curve. Quebec has one of the highest per capita cases in Canada - yet they are up there in the testing now...
 
GLG said:
Get well soon Boris, the world is pulling for you.
For those that don't know The PM of the UK went to the hospital yesterday and has been transferred to the ICU this afternoon.
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Wasn't long ago he was shaking hands with people in the ICU. Coincidence? I think not
 
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