wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Mossom Creek Hatchery was unable to take any eggs so far this year due to a lack of chum. hearing its pretty bleak out there.
Fraser River Chum Update from DFO
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wildmanyeah
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Fishery Notice
Category(s):
RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject:
FN1099-RECREATIONAL - Salmon - Fraser Chum - Region 2 - Chilliwack/Vedder River - Non-retention
Further to FN1080, the daily limit for Chum salmon is reduced to zero (0) on
the Chilliwack/Vedder River, effective immediately until December 31, 2019.
This was inadvertently omitted from the list of Fraser Region 2 tributaries
previously announced in FN1080.
Variation Order No. 2019-RFQ-589
Notes:
Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in non-tidal waters of
British Columbia.
Sport anglers are encouraged to participate in the Salmon Sport Head Recovery
program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped Chinook and
Coho salmon. Recovery of coded-wire tags provides critical information for
coast-wide stock assessment. Contact the Salmon Sport Head Recovery Program
toll free at (866) 483-9994 for further information.
For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at
1-866-431-FISH (3474).
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact the nearest Fisheries and Oceans Canada office or visit our website at
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca.
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1099
Sent October 23, 2019 at 1214
Category(s):
RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject:
FN1099-RECREATIONAL - Salmon - Fraser Chum - Region 2 - Chilliwack/Vedder River - Non-retention
Further to FN1080, the daily limit for Chum salmon is reduced to zero (0) on
the Chilliwack/Vedder River, effective immediately until December 31, 2019.
This was inadvertently omitted from the list of Fraser Region 2 tributaries
previously announced in FN1080.
Variation Order No. 2019-RFQ-589
Notes:
Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in non-tidal waters of
British Columbia.
Sport anglers are encouraged to participate in the Salmon Sport Head Recovery
program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped Chinook and
Coho salmon. Recovery of coded-wire tags provides critical information for
coast-wide stock assessment. Contact the Salmon Sport Head Recovery Program
toll free at (866) 483-9994 for further information.
For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at
1-866-431-FISH (3474).
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact the nearest Fisheries and Oceans Canada office or visit our website at
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca.
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1099
Sent October 23, 2019 at 1214
donnie d
Well-Known Member
Think those inadvertent 3 days resulted in the removal of any chum? That’s a big F up.
Yeah but that’s DFO. Their primary mandate is to manage the salmon stocks to zero.
https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/CommunalOpeningTimes.html
Lowest chum return in history, lowest Thompson and interior steelhead ever and yet DFO is still allowing non selective netting? I guess with some of the female chum fetching 50$ a fish right now there is room for genocidal killing of all species. What an absolute joke.
FYI....Thompson and Chilcotin steelhead are 86 and 39 fish supposed to return this year. I GUARANTEE there will be more than a few that will be caught in these openings, only to be tossed back in the river dead for the chum roe greed.
Lowest chum return in history, lowest Thompson and interior steelhead ever and yet DFO is still allowing non selective netting? I guess with some of the female chum fetching 50$ a fish right now there is room for genocidal killing of all species. What an absolute joke.
FYI....Thompson and Chilcotin steelhead are 86 and 39 fish supposed to return this year. I GUARANTEE there will be more than a few that will be caught in these openings, only to be tossed back in the river dead for the chum roe greed.
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SpringVelocity
Crew Member
The island is suffering as well these are the numbers as of yesterday from DFO.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
so is the Fraser but where netting them all
littlechucky
Crew Member
Wow that is bad
2.3 million taken coast wide commercially on this brood year for Chum?
Another question that needs to be asked....why are we still even doing the Albion test fishery?
Every single one of those chum they are netting are worth more to the rivers than they are too the market they are being sold for!We know the chum run is ****, why keep on netting? It’s easy enough to do in stream counts. Do we really need the Albion to be netting chum until almost December? Are we trying to wipe out some of our early stock wild winter steelhead and wild Coho stocks? Are we just trying to feed the seals that are following the netting everyday?
This is also going to be one of the questions coming up in the spring. We need every early stock Chinook spawner making it to the spawning grounds after this years Big bar slide debacle. No reason why sonar counting can’t be used.
Is the Albion net fishery really about in river abundance or is it about the sales they make off these fish?
Times are changing with our fisheries, it’s time DFO evolved as well.
Another question that needs to be asked....why are we still even doing the Albion test fishery?
Every single one of those chum they are netting are worth more to the rivers than they are too the market they are being sold for!We know the chum run is ****, why keep on netting? It’s easy enough to do in stream counts. Do we really need the Albion to be netting chum until almost December? Are we trying to wipe out some of our early stock wild winter steelhead and wild Coho stocks? Are we just trying to feed the seals that are following the netting everyday?
This is also going to be one of the questions coming up in the spring. We need every early stock Chinook spawner making it to the spawning grounds after this years Big bar slide debacle. No reason why sonar counting can’t be used.
Is the Albion net fishery really about in river abundance or is it about the sales they make off these fish?
Times are changing with our fisheries, it’s time DFO evolved as well.
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littlechucky
Crew Member
1,675 Chinook caught in the Albion nets this year.
Must be a better way to estimate returning fish?!
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Go gethem boys. You guys deserve to take the last fish. Please do us a favor and don’t throw back that dead wild coho and steelhead.
This is time for us to ask Wilkinson a few questions. When he said “the stocks of concern won’t be compromised under my watch “ did he know what he was talking about? The Jill Bennett show would be the right place to host this Q&A.
This is time for us to ask Wilkinson a few questions. When he said “the stocks of concern won’t be compromised under my watch “ did he know what he was talking about? The Jill Bennett show would be the right place to host this Q&A.
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cohochinook
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donnie d
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wildmanyeah
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https://twitter.com/JZThinAir/statu...k0GIMJEn0sBIxtClskoTXxZGmN_iAxerW8Ounx_GH5Dss
Sturg caught in a unattended chum gillnet
Sturg caught in a unattended chum gillnet
searun
Well-Known Member
Thompson Steelhead were the canary in the coal mine. We waited far too long to adjust to actually take effective action to help save steelhead from extirpation. Hoping we can learn those lessons.
We are seeing the impacts of a number of changing ocean conditions and predation. Any fish species that travel far out into the Pacific into the area of the warm blob are being severely impacted (sockeye, chum, steelhead, Stream-Type Chinook). There may be nothing we can do to help these particular fish. Climate change and things like the blob are part of a much larger climate change problem that requires global community commitments to solve....if it's not already too late.
That said, take lessons learned and apply them before it is too late for some fish stocks. I think that DFO management does have to be more savvy shifting their management approach to adjust to the new ocean survival regimes we are experiencing. Part of that has to be taking strong leadership towards elimination of in-river gill netting, and a move to only using selective harvest technology that is proven to achieve safe selective harvest outcomes.
We are seeing the impacts of a number of changing ocean conditions and predation. Any fish species that travel far out into the Pacific into the area of the warm blob are being severely impacted (sockeye, chum, steelhead, Stream-Type Chinook). There may be nothing we can do to help these particular fish. Climate change and things like the blob are part of a much larger climate change problem that requires global community commitments to solve....if it's not already too late.
That said, take lessons learned and apply them before it is too late for some fish stocks. I think that DFO management does have to be more savvy shifting their management approach to adjust to the new ocean survival regimes we are experiencing. Part of that has to be taking strong leadership towards elimination of in-river gill netting, and a move to only using selective harvest technology that is proven to achieve safe selective harvest outcomes.
searun
Well-Known Member
This would be a good one to report to the ORR line....lots of illegal sales taking place over FB market place and other internet sales. DFO Fish cops can't do anything to help curb this without our help. The more we report the better it demonstrates the scope of the problem and we might actually get more officers hired and assigned to the problem.
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