2016 Alberni Inlet

[Joe]

If u say so...forecasting has been accurate the last 4 years...the timing a different story...

No one would be happy to eat my words more then me. But its august 7..... and there has been pretty much zero life in the sound all summer. I am not a biologist, but I highly doubt its all of sudden going to turn on when some of the fish in the sound right now are already turning color... Sure there has been a few decent days and the odd fish being caught, but the amount of skunks coming from regular sporties, guides and everyone else far out weighs the fish.

 

[Derby]

Lol....its called fishing not catching.....a whole lot of things are out of our control... as fishtofino says...when and if u can get out to get them its been alright & some areas better then others... there is a whole lot of frustrated anglers out there ..its what it is.....

 

[MRWood]

Fish where they are not where you want them to be

That quote reminds me of the old Kung Fu series where the sensei is giving the grasshopper some wise advice . He then goes off on his own and tries to figure out what the sensei meant, lol

 

[RBL]

That quote reminds me of the old Kung Fu series where the sensei is giving the grasshopper some wise advice . He then goes off on his own and tries to figure out what the sensei meant, lol

Lol

 

[c.askin]

any spring action in the inlet yet ?????????? or was the prediction of a big return way off ???

 

[TheBigGuy]

any spring action in the inlet yet ?????????? or was the prediction of a big return way off ???

That's a good question, because when I had the nerve to suggest the DFO had messed up on the run projection over a month ago I got jumped all over. Maybe I wasn't being as negative as some guys suggested, maybe I just had a hard time believing bare minimum escapement levels had miraculously morphed into huge returns this year. Time will tell, but I sure hope their not planning on big commercial openings in the inlet now that the returns are looking shaky for this "big" forecasted run.

 

[Derby]

because at times some one should...

 

[TheBigGuy]

because at times some one should...

Could you be a little more cryptic there Derby. You were the first one to pounce on me when I suggested the run numbers might have been over optimistic. Are you still defending the DFO's run prediction accuracy today. Do you still think there's a monster run on the way to Robertson Creek, and all the fish are just late.

Or has the DFO admitted they made a mistake yet, and downgraded the Robertson run like they've been rumored to have done with the Conuma run. Ninety thousand fish downgraded to maybe 30 thousand fish. That's a big miscalculation. Has the same mistake been repeated in Alberni. What's the story now?

 

[Derby]

LOL.....your above statement tells me just how little you know about the process or how DFO works or at the very least even what science is behind how the run forecasts are made.... go to some meeting and then you may understand one day..

 

[TheBigGuy]

I used to fish Alberni every summer for many years. I liked to book two weeks vacation starting the 14th of Aug till the 28th of August most years. The first week of my holidays was usually pretty good fishing, but a little on the early side. The last week was usually phenomenal fishing. It is the 13th of August today. Is anyone catching springs in the canal yet. If this huge run of fish is supposed to be coming into the canal, shouldn't the vanguards be there by now. I mean if all these fish are coming shouldn't the earlier ones be getting caught in the inlet already. If this huge run is actually going to materialize shouldn't some be in the inlet already. Is anybody getting any springs in the inlet yet, because you'd think that should be the case with such a monster run predicted.

 

[TheBigGuy]

LOL.....your above statement tells me just how little you know about the process or how DFO works or at the very least even what science is behind how the run forecasts are made.... go to some meeting and then you may understand one day..

Perhaps instead of simply being dismissive, and patronizing, you could speak to the actual numbers if you are so in the know. Has the Conuma run been officially downgraded to 30 thousand fish as reported on the Nootka thread. Because if that is true, then it's not a long stretch to imagine the same over optimistic forecast occurred with the Robertson Creek run as well.

Are you with the Port Alberni Chamber of Commerce, or perhaps in charge of promoting the Labor Day Salmon derby or something. Anyone who questions the fishing being anything less than superlative in Alberni this season is being attacked by some like they are heretics, or something equally evil.

Maybe it's time to stop drinking the Purple Cool aid the DFO spoon feeds you at those meetings. Just saying, there's more than one side to a coin.

 

[Joe]

Could you be a little more cryptic there Derby. You were the first one to pounce on me when I suggested the run numbers might have been over optimistic. Are you still defending the DFO's run prediction accuracy today. Do you still think there's a monster run on the way to Robertson Creek, and all the fish are just late.

Or has the DFO admitted they made a mistake yet, and downgraded the Robertson run like they've been rumored to have done with the Conuma run. Ninety thousand fish downgraded to maybe 30 thousand fish. That's a big miscalculation. Has the same mistake been repeated in Alberni. What's the story now?

Derby guides out of Barkley, as do all his buds. He also sells gear to lots of guides. Botched run forecasts are bad for business. The fact you got jumped on, for even slightly questioning anything has been status quo for years around this forum.

ON a positive note, friends just back from 3 days in Barkely. Fished 3 days. Killed 12 springs to 24lbs. Fishing was steady although I doubt this is a start of 117,000 fish moving into the sound. lol

 

[Aces]

I used to fish Alberni every summer for many years. I liked to book two weeks vacation starting the 14th of Aug till the 28th of August most years. The first week of my holidays was usually pretty good fishing, but a little on the early side. The last week was usually phenomenal fishing. It is the 13th of August today. Is anyone catching springs in the canal yet. If this huge run of fish is supposed to be coming into the canal, shouldn't the vanguards be there by now. I mean if all these fish are coming shouldn't the earlier ones be getting caught in the inlet already. If this huge run is actually going to materialize shouldn't some be in the inlet already. Is anybody getting any springs in the inlet yet, because you'd think that should be the case with such a monster run predicted.

I would say that those fish the fleet from Tofino and Ucluelet are pounding on are waiting for some sort of trigger before they enter the Inlet.

 

[Joe]

I would say that those fish the fleet from Tofino and Ucluelet are pounding on are waiting for some sort of trigger before they enter the Inlet.

My understanding is a lot of those fish are clipped that are being caught in Tofino and Ukee... Is that the case?

 

[Aces]

My understanding is a lot of those fish are clipped that are being caught in Tofino and Ukee... Is that the case?

No, 4 of 6 yesterday and today were all un clipped and looked like Robertson fish

Ukee guys are doing well at Wya.....'nuff said

 

[Joe]

No, 4 of 6 yesterday and today were all un clipped and looked like Robertson fish

Ukee guys are doing well at Wya.....'nuff said

Well there will be "nuff said" when they count them in the river. I follow a fellow by the named of Josh temple on facebook, I am sure you know him and probably fish right beside him. Most of the fish he posts pictures of are clipped. Especially the bigger ones.

 

[photocopy]

Im getting the popcorn

 

[Aces]

Exiting this thread. This BS is why i quit posting reports on this forum.

 

[CVmike]

Those with vested interests all seem to say the fishings been fine, while most sport guys are saying its been slow. I guess when the counts are done the numbers will speak for themselves, and somebody will be eating their words.

 

[vetteman]

LOL.....your above statement tells me just how little you know about the process or how DFO works or at the very least even what science is behind how the run forecasts are made.... go to some meeting and then you may understand one day..

And for those of us who do sit on the SFAB it's painfully obvious that the whole DFO process leaves a lot to be desired!
Dave