Local Fishing Magazines Advertise New Halibut Leasing Program!

Maybe it's time we print our own ad!
another tactic pay 1/2 the annual saltwater sports licience fee= 1/2 year potential halibut season & 2/3 year spring season(Victoria slot limit) not to mention the short/late window for wild coho, explain that to your clients guides,marinas ect. when they pay big $$$$$ to fish this area.
Plan b as holmsey states none of us buy a licience with the recent draconion policies & massive budget cuts to D.F.O tell me who'll be watching the "chicken coop". In the end when they drag 100000+ to court we'll exercise our "lack of rights" & claim it was "ceremonial food fishery".
 
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If I lived close like you Holmes I would do the same. I have a two day drive to get there and another day to get my boat ready and as you can see the expenses mount. That money will be better spent fighting these pircks.
 
lol sammy, if anyone thinks im just spewing off internet crap because im hiding behind a keyboard, IM NOT, i am dead serious and push has come to shove and i personally have had enough with it, im not a big guy by any means but im going to push back, and if it means going to jail over the matter then so be it, ive already stated this b4 on this forum and im prepared to go the distance, ive told duncan face to face the exact same thing, im not a guide and it truely doesnt effect my livelyhood, but what's rite is rite and soley based on principle im prepared to sacrifice my freedom over this because if this aint fixed then what the hell is comin down the pipe scares the shyte out of me, this has to be curtailed like yesterday....i truely and honestly feel that im fighting the good fight...holmes*

I understand your position totally holmes i'm not trying to pull your chain like Poppa Swiss says "1/2 of the ppl. just don't get it".Stick to your plan don't back down guns blazing i hope others are just as passionate when push comes to sholve!
As for Duncan we had our chance to get rid of that lackey 4 more years of mindless dribble.Money talks ,for now it seems the slipper skippers know that!
 
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if you guys are that upset about the magazine post ads for the halibut quota. then why is this site promoting it if you don't beleave me go to the home page
 
I see the ad too. :(

Holmes has posted the best idea a few days ago.

Saltwater "Sport" licensing has only been implemented for a short period of time; Who voted for it in the first place? What has the saltwater licensing program accomplished in the short time that it has been in play? What has DFO done to improve or better manage BC's fisheries since being implemented in 1901? Lastly, ask yourself; what are my rights?

Define yourself and your actions. What will you do to make change happen?

Ding Dong!

Ps; these are questions and words with no meaning or answers from me; just asking.
 
Well I do love one thing about this site. We seem to have alot of passionate people when it comes to our fishing environment! Very proud to be a part of it. And Holmes, you rock!! Almost every post you put in I find myself laughing haha.

On a more serious note though, what can be done about this new Halibut retention/rental policy? Is there going to be a vote or is it going to be like the HST, and we wake up oneday to the regs stating no halibut retention?

Mike
 
Maybe the internet and if people like me from the country S of you stay home .Keep up the GOOD work: Best Chetco
 
I encourage all members to use the "contact us" at the bottom of this sites homepage to let them know our feelings in reguard to the halibut quota add there. A few of us have already. Please add your voice and help keep this a site for recreation anglers, not a cash cow for the commercial sector.
 
I encourage all members to use the "contact us" at the bottom of this sites homepage to let them know our feelings in reguard to the halibut quota add there. A few of us have already. Please add your voice and help keep this a site for recreation anglers, not a cash cow for the commercial sector.
:mad: Forget the contact button someone (Mark Pendingnuts) needs a wake up call (@ 3am) anyone know his ph.#
 
holmes the add is not gone. If you refresh it will come back. Has been confirmed on pc's that have never been to site before so it isn't a cookie thing.
 
:mad: Forget the contact button someone (Mark Pendingnuts) needs a wake up call (@ 3am) anyone know his ph.#

Please disregard/not;) my last post contact mess. sent
 
I just got off the phone with a buddy from a lrg. Sports Fishing venture who shells out big money for ads. in the Sports Fish b.c & other simular mags.Told him what was going on ( Halibut lease ad) lets say he was not very happy!:mad::mad:... :mad:
Remember "powers to be" the "Bad word" speads even faster!!!!!!...Sammy
 
Hi Guys,

We note, with no surprise, the response to the IQMI ad that was posted on our site yesterday. When the ad was submitted (it was not solicited), we were well aware that it would be contentious, given the previous discussions that had taken place around this issue on the Forum. (Yes, we do spend a lot of time reading your posts on a daily basis).

A little digging into the IQMI website reveals that it is not a government -sponsored undertaking, but rather a private sector enterprise with an executive comprised of three people, one with a background in finance and IT, the others with backgrounds in the commercial fishery. The company’s services include managing and selling quotas in behalf of their clients who can, by extension, only be commercial quota holders.

In one of the earlier posts on this issue the following was stated: “You can't afford to judge your advertisers, if you can, congratulations, your publication is probably one in a handful in the entire world.” Further to that, our position is that a democratically-run publication has no business judging its advertisers at all.

The entrepreneurs availing themselves of opportunity are not the ones at fault here. That the 88-12 allocation is in place is patently wrong. That there are quota holders who don’t own a boat is patently wrong. But it’s not their fault that they hold and exercise those quotas, it’s the fault of the Federal Government, and particularly Fisheries and Oceans Canada, that enable them to do so.

With careful investigation, we could no doubt find cause to criticize any or all of our advertisers for any number of reasons. And they could no doubt do the same to us. But it is their investment that enables us to provide the many features that our site delivers, including the Forum. We appreciate and share your passion for sport fishing and the many businesses it supports.

Peter
 
WEAK!

And frankly, Admin, I think you could bring a little more analysis to bear on the issue of who you allow to advertise. Surely you do exercise some discretion? Or maybe just charge more to more contentious advertisers? Maybe you could start a bidding war between the 88 and the 12 to see who is willing to pay more, then run their adds. Or maybe run both and really clean up. Or why not just buy some hali quota, lease it out to sporties, and fund the site that way. Or you could do something really outlandish: identify your principals and stand by them.
 
Halibut quota purchase ad still up.

Yes, isn't that nice. They took Wolf's thread down, I believe that it was very close to or just over 2000 views in less than 24 hours. Obviously, goes to show that this is a very serious issue to many on this site. Lots of people have now left the site to join other sites. This is a sad day here for the sake of a couple of hundred dollars???? What ever the money amount is, is not the point, it is the principle of taking and running that particular ad on a site that so dedicated to sport fishing. The thought that anyone on here would be receptive of that ad, well obviously there was not much thought there other than for the money to run the ad.

If you are not sure what we are talking about here, go to the Sport FishingBC Home page:
http://www.sportfishingbc.com/index.html
and on that page you will find the ad for purchasing halibut quota, yes that is what I said, and ad promoting the purchase of Halibut Quota from Commercial Quota Holders. Now the trick here is that if you go to the home page from this forum you will not see the ad, they have blocked it from view via this forum link. However if you click on one of the other tabs on that page and then go back to the home page (you may have to try a couple of times) Voila, there it is in all of it glory. The link I have included does show the ad I believe.

The Administrators have been asked to remove the ad as many of us find it to be a slap in the face to the people that are supporting this site. They did respond, but in defense of the ad, and they have not removed it, instead they removed Wolf's whole thread on the issue. This thread will likely be removed soon also. With a heavy heart, I have decided that I will not be making regular contributions to this site until that ad is completely removed and an apology is put forth to everyone.

I will be participating at this forum for general discussions: http://www.bcfishingreports.com/forums/forum.php this seems to be where a lot of the people that have already left, have gone to. A great forum with the same type of format as this one. I will also be using this site for fishing reports: http://www.zurtrolures.ca/reports/ another great site, if you have not seen it, check it out now before they delete this thread too. Sign on and make some reports.

Cheers to all of the great people that I have encountered here, I hope to see you on the other sites and on the water.

Over and out.
 
We note, with no surprise, the response to the IQMI ad that was posted on our site yesterday. When the ad was submitted (it was not solicited), we were well aware that it would be contentious, given the previous discussions that had taken place around this issue on the Forum. (Yes, we do spend a lot of time reading your posts on a daily basis).

You knew it would be contentious (not nearly a strong enough word in my opinion), you were well aware of the stance on this latest travesty by the government by pretty well every single long term member on this site, you knew that by running the ad you would be directly pissing off most that have contributed so earnestly towards making this Forum the success it was, and yet you chose to run with it regardless? That, to me, spells a complete lack of respect for those who make this place what it is. And that DISGUSTS me as much or even more than the fact that the ad was run in the first place. Unbelievable!

The entrepreneurs availing themselves of opportunity are not the ones at fault here. That the 88-12 allocation is in place is patently wrong. That there are quota holders who don’t own a boat is patently wrong. But it’s not their fault that they hold and exercise those quotas, it’s the fault of the Federal Government, and particularly Fisheries and Oceans Canada, that enable them to do so.

Yes, this mess lies directly at the feet of DFO. Given. However your presumption that "The entrepreneurs availing themselves of opportunity are not the ones at fault here" is completely off the wall. The program is fraught with serious problems, and yet DFO continues to push for it's success. We cannot allow them the belief that this ******** works for ANY of us whatsoever! Anyone who buys in directly contravenes the entire recreational sector as a whole by doing so, in effect selling us all out in their greed driven consideration of the Self. Any who do buy in do so at their own peril, as you can clearly see, peer pressure amongst sport anglers can be a very powerful issue. Thus contrary to what you would have us think, those that are considering supporting this fool's pursuit are indeed very much at fault here!

We appreciate and share your passion for sport fishing and the many businesses it supports.

Actions speak much louder than words Peter. And your actions in this regard indicate a complete lack of respect for your fellow anglers and, in turn, the many businesses we support. I am pretty much nauseated by your behavior in this matter, placing a few coins at a higher priority than the views and concerns of the vast majority of this site's members.

I have tamed this down substantially from my original response, yet you can still clearly determine my stance from what I have written. I advise you to immediately delete the ad from your site, and to present a written apology here to all members and not simply attempt to defend your obviously poor choice in this matter.

You can sign me off as One Ticked Off SOB! :mad:
Matt
 
Great post Matt.

I have been listening and reading and finally decided to post on this issue:

I have heard SFBC's excuse as to why they went ahead and chose to run the halibut quota ad on SFBC site and while I understand why they may have chosen that route, in my opinion I believe SFBC made a mistake when choosing to run the ad. Hopefully they will realize, that no matter how tough a decision it was for them, they made a mistake. Hopefully they will reverse it and take down the ad. The healing process could then begin.

SFBC is a site for sport fisherman and the ad in question goes directly and strongly against the beliefs of these sport fishers (as site members and advertisers on the site). The fact SFBC administration agrees that 88/12 is wrong and the fact that many quota holders are without boats is wrong, likely wouldn't ever be a reason for them to change their minds about running an ad like this, however, lost dollars might. Essentially what has happened is the admin has 'sold out' to one advertiser and in doing so have ignored many forum members and many other advertisers. Understandibly there will be a loss of respect and trust of SFBC due to these actions. Is it any surprise that members feel back-stabbed and now will be going elsewhere for their fishing forum activities? What should be even a bigger concern for SFBC administration is just how much loss in their revenue could occur from their actions? The lost dollars in advertising from sport fishing and related businesses could be substantial.
 
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